11-05-13 04:18 PM
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  1. aron2's Avatar
    Toronto -* BlackBerry lovers left could be in for some bad news.
    The device that was so addictive that it was dubbed the CrackBerry might not have much of a future: Its new chairman and interim chief executive says he wants to emphasize software and services not devices. That could mean the company might ultimately get out of the business of selling smartphones.
    The possible change in strategy comes as Fairfax Financial, BlackBerrys largest shareholder with a 10 percent stake, said Monday it wont buy the struggling smartphone company and take it private. It said that instead Fairfax and other investors will inject $1 billion as part of a revised investment proposal.
    CEO Thorsten Heins is stepping down and John Chen was appointed chairman of BlackBerrys board of directors and interim CEO. Chen, the former CEO of software data company Sybase, told The Associated Press on Monday that BlackBerry employees need to start thinking differently about the company and accept that were really not in phones but were in phones for software, for services.
    Chen said he wants to find a CEO with a strong software and services background.
    He noted that BlackBerry Messenger, BlackBerrys popular messaging application, has been downloaded by more than 20 million users since it became available on Googles Android and Apples iOS platforms in the last 10 days. BlackBerry Messenger, or BBM, works like text messaging but doesnt incur extra fees.
    BBM had long been one of the most popular features on BlackBerry devices and only became available on rival smartphones last month. While there are fewer users of the actual BlackBerry smartphone, BBM remains popular. Chen said there are now about 80 million active users of BBM.
    Id like to find somebody to help me monetize that, Chen said.
    Colin Gillis, an industry analyst at BGC Financial, questioned whether thats possible.
    Its like Apple saying were going to stop making phones and were going to become an iMessage company, Gillis said.
    BlackBerry no longer provides the number of actually device subscribers, and a company spokeswoman said that number would not be an accurate reflection of our business today.
    In June, it said the total BlackBerry subscriber base was about 72 million. Mike Walkley, an analyst with Canaccord Genuity, estimates that there were about around 65 million BlackBerry device subscribers globally at the end of August, down from a peak of around 80 million at end of August 2012. He said he expects the rate of decline to accelerate.
    By comparison, smartphone market leader Samsung Electronics Co. shipped 81 million units in the July-September quarter alone, according to research group IDC.
    Gillis said BlackBerry might indeed stop selling phones but noted BlackBerry is already obsolete. He doesnt think current BlackBerry users have to worry though.
    They are not just going to shut the lights off, Gillis said.
    The decline of the BlackBerry has come shockingly fast. In 1999, BlackBerry became a game-changing breakthrough in personal connectedness. It changed the culture by allowing on-the-go business people to access wireless email. President Barack Obama couldnt bear to part with his BlackBerry. Oprah Winfrey declared it one of her favorite things.
    Then came a new generation of competing smartphones, and suddenly the BlackBerry looked ancient. Apple debuted the iPhone in 2007 and showed that phones can handle much more than email and phone calls. In the years since, BlackBerry Ltd. been hammered by competition from the iPhone as well as Android-based rivals.
    This years much-delayed launch of the BlackBerry 10 system and the fancier devices that use it was supposed to rejuvenate the brand and lure customers. It did not work. Waterloo, Ontario-based BlackBerry recently announced 4,500 layoffs, or 40 percent of its global workforce, and reported a quarterly loss of nearly $1 billion.
    Sadly I think they are already out of the business after the BlackBerry 10 flop, said Mike Walkley, an analyst with Canaccord Genuity.
    Walkley said he believes BlackBerry will focus on its mobile device management business, which allows IT departments to manage different devices connected to their corporate networks.

    By: AP
    http://m.financialexpress.com/news/bad-news-for-blackberry-lovers-focus-may-shift-to-software-not-devices/1191072?rheditorpick/
    Last edited by aron2; 11-05-13 at 11:40 AM. Reason: add link
    11-04-13 07:58 PM
  2. Bla1ze's Avatar
    11-04-13 09:35 PM
  3. eldricho's Avatar
    Why would they even post that now, he already answered on the rumors

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    11-04-13 09:39 PM
  4. SirJes's Avatar
    Lol we live in the age of pure rumor/speculation journalism

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    11-04-13 09:41 PM
  5. walt63's Avatar
    Lol we live in the age of pure rumor/speculation journalism

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    Bingo. Anything to get a view or click

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    11-04-13 09:44 PM
  6. Brutal Efficiency's Avatar
    Hahaha, what an *****.

    BlackBerry Bold 9900; Q10; Z10 [BBM#6]
    11-04-13 09:56 PM
  7. pttptppt's Avatar
    This is sad, if it wasn't rumors

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    11-04-13 10:06 PM
  8. c_legaspi's Avatar
    Yeah I noticed this in an article I read

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    11-04-13 10:34 PM
  9. kfh227's Avatar
    Take core strengths, improve them. Diversify with cash that remains. Become a tech conglomerate.

    Berkshire was a textile when Buffett bought it.....

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    11-04-13 11:06 PM
  10. just_luc's Avatar
    This article seems to be taken out of context in my opinion. Chen says he wants to focus on software, and that BlackBerry employees need to think differently.. that they are in the business of selling software. He doesn't say they aren't going to manufacture hardware to put that software on.. just that the software is the top priority. That couple with the earlier statement that they are not shutting down the handset division leaves me pretty confident BlackBerry phones aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

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    11-04-13 11:26 PM
  11. aron2's Avatar
    I sure hope so
    11-05-13 12:32 AM
  12. aron2's Avatar
    Yup so how do u explain it. I guess only time will tell
    11-05-13 12:33 AM
  13. chopachain's Avatar
    Don't believe everything you read. Selling news is a lot like selling an apple product.
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    11-05-13 12:41 AM
  14. grahamf's Avatar
    Chen had originally planned to scrap BB10 and use Android/iOS according to buisnessinsider

    What I'm worried is that he will attempt to do this again. No offence, but it would be like Apple (when they were near-death) scrapping Mac OS and using Windows. And I still don't believe Android is fundamentally secure, and I won't listen to your arguments otherwise.

    if Blackberry become just another member of Android's "Other manufacturers" pie chart piece, I will switch to Windows phone.
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    11-05-13 01:12 AM
  15. vlcmfreak7's Avatar
    Chen had originally planned to scrap BB10 and use Android/iOS according to buisnessinsider

    What I'm worried is that he will attempt to do this again. No offence, but it would be like Apple (when they were near-death) scrapping Mac OS and using Windows. And I still don't believe Android is fundamentally secure, and I won't listen to your arguments otherwise.

    if Blackberry become just another member of Android's "Other manufacturers" pie chart piece, I will switch to Windows phone.
    It says Chan, the new CEO is Chen. Totally different people.

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    11-05-13 01:20 AM
  16. SirJes's Avatar
    Chen had originally planned to scrap BB10 and use Android/iOS according to buisnessinsider

    What I'm worried is that he will attempt to do this again. No offence, but it would be like Apple (when they were near-death) scrapping Mac OS and using Windows. And I still don't believe Android is fundamentally secure, and I won't listen to your arguments otherwise.

    if Blackberry become just another member of Android's "Other manufacturers" pie chart piece, I will switch to Windows phone.
    Not the same person..

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    11-05-13 01:20 AM
  17. szlevi's Avatar
    Chen had originally planned to scrap BB10 and use Android/iOS according to buisnessinsider

    What I'm worried is that he will attempt to do this again. No offence, but it would be like Apple (when they were near-death) scrapping Mac OS and using Windows. And I still don't believe Android is fundamentally secure, and I won't listen to your arguments otherwise.

    if Blackberry become just another member of Android's "Other manufacturers" pie chart piece, I will switch to Windows phone.
    You realize that you are talking about a completely different person, right?

    PS: Windows Phone, hah - good luck with that Ballmerian junk, I stick to Android.

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    11-05-13 01:21 AM
  18. ssbtech's Avatar
    OP: If you're going to copy/paste ENIRE copyrighted articles into your post, at least link back to the author's page, please.
    11-05-13 02:21 AM
  19. grahamf's Avatar
    It says Chan, the new CEO is Chen. Totally different people.

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    Missed that, sorry.
    11-05-13 02:22 AM
  20. sixpacker's Avatar
    Lol we live in the age of pure rumor/speculation journalism

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    That's partly because the old management team were so evasive/devious and plain dishonest. The new team has to give a clear, honest vision of BBRY's future from day 1.
    11-05-13 04:49 AM
  21. FFR's Avatar
    What would the alternative be?
    Had they announced it today blackberry would be sitting on bb10 inventory it simply would not be able to move, write off, or write down.
    Unlike hp, that could afford a palm fire sale and refocus on their core business, blackberry just isn't as fortunate.

    Blackberry needs time and money to restructure the company away from hardware (bb, a SaaS company). Unfortunately blackberry will accomplish this on the backs of their most ardent & most fervent supporters, however few are left.

    John Chen stated that the company has no plans of shutting down the handset business just yet.
    Im expecting an announcement to that effect after the Christmas shopping period, perhaps in February or March.
    JeepBB likes this.
    11-05-13 05:11 AM
  22. Bluenoser63's Avatar
    This article seems to be taken out of context in my opinion. Chen says he wants to focus on software, and that BlackBerry employees need to think differently.. that they are in the business of selling software. He doesn't say they aren't going to manufacture hardware to put that software on.. just that the software is the top priority. That couple with the earlier statement that they are not shutting down the handset division leaves me pretty confident BlackBerry phones aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

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    No kidding. How can you take this line.

    “we’re really not in phones but we’re in phones for software, for services.”

    and turn it into stop making phones.
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    11-05-13 05:34 AM
  23. Bluenoser63's Avatar
    What would the alternative be?
    Had they announced it today blackberry would be sitting on bb10 inventory it simply would not be able to move, write off, or write down.
    Unlike hp, that could afford a palm fire sale and refocus on their core business, blackberry just isn't as fortunate.

    Blackberry needs time and money to restructure the company away from hardware (bb, a SaaS company). Unfortunately blackberry will accomplish this on the backs of their most ardent & most fervent supporters, however few are left.



    Im expecting an announcement to that effect after the Christmas shopping period, perhaps in February or March.
    Adam was speculating as much as AP was. Both were pretty loose with facts and lots of opinions.
    11-05-13 05:37 AM
  24. newcollector's Avatar
    Chen said they had no plans to stop making phones (which means no plans immediately) but that doesn't mean they won't develop plans to stop making them in the future. His answer is a typical non-answer.

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    11-05-13 10:35 AM
  25. Bluenoser63's Avatar
    Chen said they had no plans to stop making phones (which means no plans immediately) but that doesn't mean they won't develop plans to stop making them in the future. His answer is a typical non-answer.

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    Apple has no plans on dropping the iPhone or iPad? Are you saying that they won't develop plans to stop making them in the future? Deal with the facts man..
    11-05-13 10:39 AM
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