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  1. Hlao-roo's Avatar
    Exclusive: Shopify, Google boosting presence in BlackBerry's hometown | Reuters

    The moves [by Google and Shopify] come as BlackBerry further pares back some of its non-core teams in the region. Sources familiar with the matter said that BlackBerry last week laid off roughly 200 staff on its hardware and design teams.

    "Our intention is to reallocate resources in ways that will best enable us to capitalize on growth opportunities while driving toward sustainable profitability across all facets of our business," said a spokeswoman for BlackBerry in an email.

    The sources added the moves come after BlackBerry has completed all major hardware and design work on its widely anticipated new handset, code-named Venice. The device is widely expected to arrive in November and run on Google's Android platform, but come layered with BlackBerry security and productivity features.

    BlackBerry, which is pivoting to focus more on software as it outsources more of the work around its hardware, declined to comment on the device.
    1Criz and JGoodard like this.
    09-21-15 11:17 AM
  2. AnimalPak200's Avatar
    Now who's going to make the 'feel-good' design story video for the Venice?

    : /

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    09-21-15 11:21 AM
  3. Uzi's Avatar
    More focus on software I think
    09-21-15 11:22 AM
  4. mad_mdx's Avatar
    Now who's going to make the 'feel-good' design story video for the Venice?

    : /

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    Wait till one of chen's buddies designs a silver edition lol
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    09-21-15 11:29 AM
  5. lnichols's Avatar
    So they get the Venice done, then lay off the personnel that finished it, but they are committed to hardware, BB10, and they will stand behind the Venice 100%....... RIGHT!

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    lift, FF22, Blacklatino and 6 others like this.
    09-21-15 12:24 PM
  6. Smiley88's Avatar
    Chen is going to run BB into the ground. Is anyone left on the boat?
    lift, johnm137, Q10Bold and 6 others like this.
    09-21-15 12:30 PM
  7. OneofLittleHarmony's Avatar
    Chen is going to run BB into the ground. Is anyone left on the boat?
    *submarine

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    09-21-15 12:48 PM
  8. Elephant_Canyon's Avatar
    *submarine
    Screen-door installation is already in progress.
    09-21-15 12:58 PM
  9. Tatwi's Avatar
    Screen-door installation is already in progress.
    Best way to keep the bugs out.

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    09-21-15 02:17 PM
  10. BerryRipe's Avatar
    Best way to keep the bugs out.

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    Or keep them in.

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    09-21-15 02:33 PM
  11. cgk's Avatar
    So they get the Venice done, then lay off the personnel that finished it, but they are committed to hardware, BB10, and they will stand behind the Venice 100%....... RIGHT!

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    Becoming OHA compliant means other OHA OEMs would be able to make hardware for BBRY - if you don't make any more BB10 devices, you just need people to do software update for... two three years? At that point either Android has taken off or it hasn't and you pull the plug anyway.
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    09-21-15 02:38 PM
  12. smis's Avatar
    More like seal-in-a-can.
    09-21-15 02:49 PM
  13. cwb27's Avatar
    If it means anything to anyone Brian Paschke, Industrial Design Lead for a ton of BB devices is now at Fitbit.
    09-21-15 02:53 PM
  14. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    So they get the Venice done, then lay off the personnel that finished it, but they are committed to hardware, BB10, and they will stand behind the Venice 100%....... RIGHT!

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    Their manufacturing partners will be doing the design work.

    Will remove most of the risk from BlackBerry if things go bad. But it will mean higher cost for users, more generic hardware (other than keyboards), and limited availability of devices... especially at launch.

    But yeah, if the Venice is a flop, Chen has pretty much already closed the hardware business..

    BlackBerry had a number of talented people working for them. They had also worked with local education systems to help feed them new talented people that now have no where to find local employment. Waterloo has turned into the winter version of Silicon Valley.
    JGoodard likes this.
    09-21-15 03:06 PM
  15. ljfong's Avatar
    So they get the Venice done, then lay off the personnel that finished it, but they are committed to hardware, BB10, and they will stand behind the Venice 100%....... RIGHT!

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    I guess BlackBerry Venice will be BlackBerry's hardware swansong. Tragic.
    09-21-15 03:37 PM
  16. lift's Avatar
    More layoffs? Yeah, Chen is really "saving" BlackBerry. Must be nothing left of BlackBerry hardware division. I had a feeling that the slider was more of a Samsung device than a BlackBerry device. Looks to me like BlackBerry is done with BB10 devices. They will probably just maintain BB10 for a while and then abandon it. Very sad. I really like BB10 and will use it as long as I can. Chen and his stupid Venice can kiss my @ss.
    extisis and Q10Bold like this.
    09-21-15 03:40 PM
  17. sk8er_tor's Avatar
    To be fair, they did acquire some companies and have added more offices in the US and Middle East.
    09-21-15 03:41 PM
  18. lnichols's Avatar
    Their manufacturing partners will be doing the design work.

    Will remove most of the risk from BlackBerry if things go bad. But it will mean higher cost for users, more generic hardware (other than keyboards), and limited availability of devices... especially at launch.

    But yeah, if the Venice is a flop, Chen has pretty much already closed the hardware business..

    BlackBerry had a number of talented people working for them. They had also worked with local education systems to help feed them new talented people that now have no where to find local employment. Waterloo has turned into the winter version of Silicon Valley.
    I wonder if Apple is still hiring BlackBerry talent like they were in 2013. It will be interesting to watch what happens to BlackBerry from here on out from afar and see what they do with BB10 and QNX. I can't see them ever having the resources to leverage any of the potential in those pieces. I'll keep the BB10 devices and upgrade when they are available to see what happens.

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    09-21-15 03:42 PM
  19. bakron1's Avatar
    In today's high paced high tech Industry, working for an employer for your entire career is a thing of the past.

    Companies today are only concerned about having a continuous revenue stream, satisfying their shareholders and that's the bottom line and if it means they have to let folks go, then so be it.

    As a business person myself, I don't like to let folks go because it's very difficult to find folks who are loyal and will make a long term commitment to a company and to myself, loyalty is worth something.

    I have always believed that a great company and its success is directly related to the employees who work there and I will continue to be that way, but today's high paced market doesn't think like that, it's all about those excel spreadsheets, the numbers and the bottom line.

    I will buy the new slider as soon as it's released and I truly believe Blackberry's hardware future is in an Android based device and I know the faithful will gasp when I say that, but that's reality because Android and IOS are now the dominant platforms and you can either roll with them or get rolled over.
    09-21-15 05:49 PM
  20. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    In today's high paced high tech Industry, working for an employer for your entire career is a thing of the past.

    Companies today are only concerned about having a continuous revenue stream, satisfying their shareholders and that's the bottom line and if it means they have to let folks go, then so be it.

    As a business person myself, I don't like to let folks go because it's very difficult to find folks who are loyal and will make a long term commitment to a company and to myself, loyalty is worth something.

    I have always believed that a great company and its success is directly related to the employees who work there and I will continue to be that way, but today's high paced market doesn't think like that, it's all about those excel spreadsheets, the numbers and the bottom line.

    I will buy the new slider as soon as it's released and I truly believe Blackberry's hardware future is in an Android based device and I know the faithful will gasp when I say that, but that's reality because Android and IOS are now the dominant platforms and you can either roll with them or get rolled over.
    Ouch, yeah! :-D

      Leakers' gonna leak... :-)  
    09-21-15 05:55 PM
  21. _dimi_'s Avatar
    Becoming OHA compliant means other OHA OEMs would be able to make hardware for BBRY - if you don't make any more BB10 devices, you just need people to do software update for... two three years? At that point either Android has taken off or it hasn't and you pull the plug anyway.
    "In addition to BlackBerry’s existing partnership with Foxconn, the Company also entered into joint development and manufacturing agreements with Wistron Corporation and Compal Electronics. These agreements will reduce the time to market of new devices, streamline the supply chain, leverage greater economies of scale and enable resource and fixed asset reductions for greater business efficiency – which are all significant steps toward BlackBerry achieving profitability in its devices business."

    This isn't exactly news.. they're already working with Foxconn who is a OHA member. However, the reason you're giving is different from BlackBerry's statement. I'd wait until Friday to get a better sense of what they plan on doing hardware-wise.
    09-21-15 06:03 PM
  22. snaponsly's Avatar
    I am from Ottawa and there's a lot of jobs posted with QNX for software developers, electrical engineers etc... That must mean something positive as far as QNX is concerned I would think...
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    09-21-15 10:44 PM
  23. Bla1ze's Avatar
    I am from Ottawa and there's a lot of jobs posted with QNX for software developers, electrical engineers etc... That must mean something positive as far as QNX is concerned I would think...
    Right, but they've seemingly they have nothing related to BlackBerry 10 any more, whereas even just a few months ago there was several positions listed.
    09-22-15 02:38 AM
  24. ubizmo's Avatar
    Right, but they've seemingly they have nothing related to BlackBerry 10 any more, whereas even just a few months ago there was several positions listed.
    I would imagine that they have a small team in place who can keep BB10 in maintenance mode, with occasional updates and bug fixes, for as long as necessary, without advertising for specialists to do this sort of thing. BlackBerry's mobile software focus, for the foreseeable future, has to be on getting the best possible experience and security going on Android.

    Version 1.0 of anything is rough around the edges, and the BlackBerry Experience on Android will be no different. But it can't be as rough as BB10 and BBMx were at launch; too much is riding on it. And as bugs crawl out of the woodwork, they're going to need all hands to be working on fixes. At this point, BB10 is a distraction.
    dejanh likes this.
    09-22-15 09:43 AM
  25. dejanh's Avatar
    I would imagine that they have a small team in place who can keep BB10 in maintenance mode, with occasional updates and bug fixes, for as long as necessary, without advertising for specialists to do this sort of thing. BlackBerry's mobile software focus, for the foreseeable future, has to be on getting the best possible experience and security going on Android.

    Version 1.0 of anything is rough around the edges, and the BlackBerry Experience on Android will be no different. But it can't be as rough as BB10 and BBMx were at launch; too much is riding on it. And as bugs crawl out of the woodwork, they're going to need all hands to be working on fixes. At this point, BB10 is a distraction.
    This is key. They have to nail the Android release. If they mess it up, they are as done as a Thanksgiving turkey.
    wincyUt likes this.
    09-22-15 01:21 PM
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