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  1. FFR's Avatar
    10 million phones per quarter is 40 million in a year.
    So if they acquired blackberry that would get bumped up to 46 million a year?


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    10-20-13 05:24 AM
  2. bennelong's Avatar
    If I'm not mistaken there are news saying british counter intelligence agencies found hardware/hardcoded backdoors on their lenovos,it was in the news.

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    True apparently and fiendishly difficult to detect.
    This is one aspect of cyber warfare on many fronts, where the only solution is controlling input at every level.

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    10-20-13 05:48 AM
  3. DaSchwantz's Avatar
    Lenovo is one of China's most respected companies, and any kind of deal with them would instantly open the doors to the Chinese market. There are all kinds of deals that could be done that avoid the kinds of security concerns people keep bringing up.

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    10-20-13 06:49 AM
  4. Tariq Nasir's Avatar
    Lenovo is one of China's most respected companies, and any kind of deal with them would instantly open the doors to the Chinese market. There are all kinds of deals that could be done that avoid the kinds of security concerns people keep bringing up.

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    Yep, Peter Misek stated that they could move the sensitive government accounts to another company and have them manage this information.

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    10-20-13 07:33 AM
  5. fedakd's Avatar
    If my sources are correct, you will be standing corrected.

    I'm not going to get into CB forum drama. We shall see how everything plays out. If my sources in the company and the federal government are wrong, I'll stand corrected.

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    10-22-13 07:41 PM
  6. donmateo's Avatar
    If my sources are correct, you will be standing corrected.
    You sure have a lot to say without much to back it up. I'd be more likely to believe the fact that it would be incredibly inconvenient and dangerous for governments and corporations around the world. I am not on BES, but I do use my BlackBerry for business that I don't want some Chinese spy looking in on or anyone else. I don't trust the Chinese any more than I have political influence there.

    Canada will block it. They're not stupid and there's plenty of other options for bids that don't pose international security threats.

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    10-22-13 09:12 PM
  7. kevinnugent's Avatar
    You sure have a lot to say without much to back it up. I'd be more likely to believe the fact that it would be incredibly inconvenient and dangerous for governments and corporations around the world. I am not on BES, but I do use my BlackBerry for business that I don't want some Chinese spy looking in on or anyone else. I don't trust the Chinese any more than I have political influence there.

    Canada will block it. There not stupid and there's plenty of other options for bids that don't pose international security threats.

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    Don, you're making a couple of assumptions here. If, at the end of the timeline, Lenovo is the only one left with their chequebook open what happens then? Canada blocks it? Can't see that happening. They'd have to prop it up, and people aren't stupid there too.
    10-22-13 09:28 PM
  8. donmateo's Avatar
    That sounds like one assumption. And even if that were the case I would say National Security > Selling just to sell

    All BlackBerry really needs is new management. Once they get all these cuts done, BlackBerry will be in a much better position even on their own.

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    10-22-13 09:44 PM
  9. mastermike87's Avatar
    That sounds like one assumption. And even if that were the case I would say National Security > Selling just to sell

    All BlackBerry really needs is new management. Once they get all these cuts done, BlackBerry will be in a much better position even on their own.

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    Private management ftr.


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    10-23-13 12:37 AM
  10. neeeko's Avatar
    Last time i checked, US was a totalitarian regime too spying on its own citizens and harrassing them
    10-23-13 04:16 PM
  11. Drdoom23's Avatar
    This would be sweet

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    10-24-13 12:47 PM
  12. mastermike87's Avatar
    You know absolutely nothing. Trust me.
    Looks like I know more than you, buddy.

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    11-04-13 08:55 PM
  13. exiledcanadian's Avatar
    Lenovo was considering a purchase but the government shot it down. The article is on the Globe and Mail site.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle15256976/

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    11-04-13 09:50 PM
  14. mastermike87's Avatar
    Lenovo was considering a purchase but the government shot it down. The article is on the Globe and Mail site.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle15256976/

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    Right, and I was the guy who said my sources with the feds claimed the government would nix the deal.

    Vindication.

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    11-04-13 10:32 PM
  15. szlevi's Avatar
    Lenovo was considering a purchase but the government shot it down. The article is on the Globe and Mail site.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle15256976/

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    If it's true then I must say the Canadian Government is actually even more stupid than I thought - and I didn't think much of it to begin with, sort of like a bunch of more polished version of GW Dubya-like bums.

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    11-05-13 12:26 AM
  16. mastermike87's Avatar
    If it's true then I must say the Canadian Government is actually even more stupid than I thought - and I didn't think much of it to begin with, sort of like a bunch of more polished version of GW Dubya-like bums.

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    Yeah, protecting your national security and those of your major trading partners means your stupid...

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    11-05-13 07:18 AM
  17. szlevi's Avatar
    Yeah, protecting your national security and those of your major trading partners means your stupid...

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    ...actually no, the only stupid are those illiterate ones who buy into this obvious BS - Thinkpads were a MUCH bigger deal yet they are now made her, in the US and still used by practically every government offices...

    ...not to mention just how "utterly important" those Canadian secrets can be (HINT: hardly anyone would give a flying frog compared to US ones, trust me.)
    11-06-13 12:35 AM
  18. mastermike87's Avatar
    ...actually no, the only stupid are those illiterate ones who buy into this obvious BS - Thinkpads were a MUCH bigger deal yet they are now made her, in the US and still used by practically every government offices...

    ...not to mention just how "utterly important" those Canadian secrets can be (HINT: hardly anyone would give a flying frog compared to US ones, trust me.)
    1. Uh, no. Blackberries are used far more by government departments worldwide than think pads. Regardless of the PC, security firewalls could be installed. In the case of BlackBerry, we're talking about the BES infrastructure which is highly impenetrable (not 100%, but it's up there). Businesses and governments have since moved to Dell and HP since IBMs "demise".

    2. I have friends that work for the RCMP, Department of Foreign Affairs, and other government agencies here in Canada. They a) do not use thinkpads at work, b) all use BlackBerry legacy devices with BES, and c) have information about middle eastern countries that they can't divulge. Whether you think anyone would give a "flying frog " about Canadian intelligence is your opinion. I recall as a undergrad being taught by Canada's Ambassador to NATO. Canada has a prominent role in global affairs and has a lot more pull and intelligence than you think. Be that as it may, it's still not on the same scope as the US, which is the argument I was also making that Canada would be compelled to protect its allies information too.

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    11-06-13 07:34 AM
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