1. cgk's Avatar
    (if you wonder why this is in here - think about what BBRY's enterprise business model is - although I think it's pretty unenforceable).

    Internet and social media companies will be banned from putting customer communications beyond their own reach under new laws to be unveiled on Wednesday.

    Companies such as Apple, Google and others will no longer be able to offer encryption so advanced that even they cannot decipher it when asked to, the Daily Telegraph can disclose.

    Measures in the Investigatory Powers Bill will place in law a requirement on tech firms and service providers to be able to provide unencrypted communications to the police or spy agencies if requested through a warrant.
    Ministers have no plans to ban encryption services because they have an important role in the protection of legitimate online activity such as banking and personal data.

    But there is concern over some aspects of so-called end-to-end encryption where only the sender and recipient of messages can decipher them.
    Internet firms to be banned from offering unbreakable encryption under new laws - Telegraph
    11-02-15 01:53 PM
  2. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    Yeah that would put an end to BBM Protected... unless they change it to provide some kinda key that at the very least BlackBerry could use under a court order to unlock the messages.

    People and business deserve to keep their communications private vs bad people doing bad things.
    11-02-15 02:04 PM
  3. ohaiguise's Avatar
    England still thinks it is a big global player, and passes grandiose laws like this to try and prove it. But it always ends up just showing how outrageously out of touch these little puppet politicians really are.
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    11-02-15 02:08 PM
  4. early2bed's Avatar
    All Apple has to do is to cut off iPhone sales in the UK and there will be barricades in the streets of London in front of the Apple Stores (I know that was in Paris but Les Mis is British).
    Last edited by early2bed; 11-02-15 at 02:23 PM.
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    11-02-15 02:11 PM
  5. imz's Avatar
    UK
    vs
    Apple, Microsoft & Google.

    The three juggernauts already get away with billions of unpaid tax every year in the UK, I'm pretty certain encryption is a walk in the park for them.

    Posted via CB10
    11-02-15 02:22 PM
  6. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    Thankfully we have the NSA... no need for such silly laws here.
    11-02-15 02:28 PM
  7. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    Thankfully we have the NSA... no need for such silly laws here.
    That's a loller.... well played! ;-D

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    11-02-15 11:50 PM
  8. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    All Apple has to do is to cut off iPhone sales in the UK and there will be barricades in the streets of London in front of the Apple Stores (I know that was in Paris but Les Mis is British).
    Yeah. People power. iMob.

    But hey, we don't and won't know much about the closed door deals. The only thing we can ask is "Cui bono?"

    :-)

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    11-02-15 11:52 PM
  9. Superdupont 2_0's Avatar
    I love this little island, they do us a big favor with this.
    I will only use and recommend products which have a "banned in the UK"-label...hopefully BlackBerry will be among them.


    Edit: "The few countries in the world that ban encryption are also the most totalitarian nation states on the planet -- Iran, Syria, Burma, Sudan and North Korea. I do not believe that is the kind of company British citizens want to keep"

    from http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/...ivacy-problems
    Last edited by Superdupont 2_0; 11-03-15 at 03:40 AM.
    11-03-15 02:20 AM
  10. Invacio's Avatar
    This is exactly why we moved Invacio away from the UK, as the privacy rights were getting worse and worse, we only this week went in to open beta on Invmail (Zero-Knowledge, 3 way encrypted, digital communications platform, allowing secure email communication inc meta data), and are shortly launching our Voice/Video conference capabilities as well as messaging over Invmail in the coming months as we come out of beta, And then the UK go and pull a stunt like this....
    11-03-15 10:06 AM
  11. Wmsi's Avatar
    Remember, this is the Prime Minister that put his male member in the mouth of a dead pig (search #piggate), and he wants to snoop on our messages and browsing history. God only knows what other disgusting filth these sick politicians get up to....yet they want to invade our privacy.
    11-03-15 10:20 AM
  12. JamieWilson01's Avatar
    England still thinks it is a big global player, and passes grandiose laws like this to try and prove it. But it always ends up just showing how outrageously out of touch these little puppet politicians really are.
    I think you mean the United Kingdom not England.

    Posted via CB10 from Scotland using PassportSQW100-1/10.3.2.2789
    11-03-15 01:29 PM
  13. paulwallace1234's Avatar
    Remember, this is the Prime Minister that put his male member in the mouth of a dead pig (search #piggate), and he wants to snoop on our messages and browsing history. God only knows what other disgusting filth these sick politicians get up to....yet they want to invade our privacy.
    Also introduced the mandatory porn filter, ironic for the biggest w*nker in the country.
    #VOTEUKIP

    Posted via CB10 v....not telling
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    11-03-15 01:35 PM
  14. JamieWilson01's Avatar
    Most transatlantic data traffic runs straight through GCHQ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GCHQ_Bude so this could have global implications.

    Posted via CB10 from Scotland using PassportSQW100-1/10.3.2.2789
    11-03-15 01:36 PM
  15. Superdupont 2_0's Avatar
    I think the BlackBerry infrastructure for Europe is (mainly) located in the UK.
    Last time I checked my device was connected to one ip address in the US and another ip address in the UK.
    11-03-15 03:19 PM
  16. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    I love this little island, they do us a big favor with this.
    I will only use and recommend products which have a "banned in the UK"-label...hopefully BlackBerry will be among them.


    Edit: "The few countries in the world that ban encryption are also the most totalitarian nation states on the planet -- Iran, Syria, Burma, Sudan and North Korea. I do not believe that is the kind of company British citizens want to keep"

    from http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/...ivacy-problems
    Hey, when I set up my BlackBerry Passport once again two days ago, I accidentally had tapped the default English UK licence agreement. Reloaded OS again, just to be on the safe side. Don't want to agree to those silly shenanigans from POMmieland... :-)



     Priv New (Chendroid) World...? :-| 
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    11-04-15 06:35 PM
  17. Superdupont 2_0's Avatar
    Hey, when I set up my BlackBerry Passport once again two days ago, I accidentally had tapped the default English UK licence agreement. Reloaded OS again, just to be on the safe side. Don't want to agree to those silly shenanigans from POMmieland... :-)
     Priv New (Chendroid) World...? :-| 
    Thank you, I thought I'm the only paranoid CB user who does this.
    Last edited by Superdupont 2_0; 11-05-15 at 03:36 PM.
    11-05-15 02:50 PM
  18. Velocitymj's Avatar
    Thankfully we have the NSA... no need for such silly laws here.
    Ahahahahaha!!!!!
    That was excellent!

    Posted via CB10
    11-06-15 12:14 AM
  19. Velocitymj's Avatar
    Think about it:
    The UK already has cameras everywhere that use facial recognition software.
    The US is following suit and adding license plate scanning.
    Google reads your emails and now via Nest and future home automation products can track how you live in your home.
    They know what your house looks like.
    They're working on full blown AI and basic AI is already taking jobs away from lower income earners.
    The NSA and other spy agencies monitor your phone calls and without encryption can check your emails.
    Other software companies and websites sell your personal data.
    Does this sound like life imitating art (or at least a whole lot of movies we've seen)?
    Posted via CB10
    11-06-15 12:24 AM
  20. Superdupont 2_0's Avatar
    I like what James Baker (FBI) said in this debate:
    FBI official: It?s America?s choice whether we want to be spied on | Ars Technica

    "We understand that the encryption genie is out of the bottle. We can't put it back in," he said. "This stuff is widely available around the world. That is reality, and we have to deal with it."

    Still I wonder how such a law could affect the BlackBerry business model with BES12 and their infrastructure.
    Traffic that is traveling through their servers via BES12 or BBM Protected is promised to have end-to-end security/encryption, and that they can't decrypt it.

    Will administrators have to deploy VPN solution to avoid BlackBerry's infrastructure?
    What would happen to BBM Protected?
    Or will BlackBerry move their servers out of the UK?

    Stay tuned...
    11-06-15 03:07 AM
  21. teknofish's Avatar
    Its impossible to implement & isnt going to happen (confirmed this by the snoopers charter).

    Encryption is just mathematics. You cant ban Maths.

    You might as well delete this thread.
    Yertie likes this.
    11-08-15 11:32 AM
  22. Superdupont 2_0's Avatar
    ... Its impossible to implemend...
    Mark my words: Nothing is impossible in the UK.
    11-08-15 03:30 PM

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