1. sportline's Avatar
    1. Telkomsel (55% market of Indonesia) BB subscription increasing :
    Jan - Sep 2012 : 5.13 Million
    September 2013 : 7.02 Million
    growing 37% whilst overall subscription growth (of the carrier) is only 5.3%.

    Pelanggan BlackBerry Telkomsel Naik 37%, Siapa Bilang BB Tergusur Android | Industri - Bisnis.com

    BlackBerry Contributes Largest towards Telkomsel?s Data Revenue - Indonesia Finance Today

    24 Jun 2013 | Multimedia Gadgets
    BlackBerry Contributes Largest towards Telkomsel’s Data Revenue

    BY Corry Anestia

    JAKARTA - PT Telekomunikasi Selular (Telkomsel), Indonesia’s largest mobile operator, said that BlackBerry smartphone’s subscribers remain the largest contributor of data revenue rather than Android and iOS-based smartphones’ subscribers.

    Telkomsel’s Division Head of Device Bundling and Customization Strategy Arief Pradetya said that BlackBerry’s data service contributed 43 percent towards total revenue. So far, BlackBerry’s data subscribers amounted to 7.4 million, from 18 million smartphone users and 55 million data subscribers at Telkomsel.

    2. Indosat & XL


    22 Aug 2013 | Multimedia Gadgets
    BlackBerry Subscribers Growth Decelerates

    BY Corry Anestia

    JAKARTA – The growth of BlackBerry’s service subscribers in PT Indosat Tbk (ISAT) and PT XL Axiata Tbk (EXCL) in the second quarter of this year is slower than in the first quarter. Meanwhile, PT Telekomunikasi Selular (Telkomsel) posts a 14-percent rise in BlackBerry’s subscribers, quarter-on-quarter.

    Based on the second quarter performance, Telkomsel’s BlackBerry subscribers amounted to 6.3 million or up 14 percent from the first quarter’s 5.5 million. Year-on-year, Telkomsel’s BlackBerry subscribers grew 56.2 percent.

    3. General Market condition

    http://en.indonesiafinancetoday.com/...nes-Gain-Users

    06 Sep 2013 | Multimedia Gadgets
    Windows Phones Gain Users

    BY Aprillia Ika

    JAKARTA – Market share of Windows Phone operating system (OS) in Indonesia will strengthen following the acquisition of Nokia Oyj’s devices & services business unit by Microsoft Corp. Meanwhile, BlackBerry OS’ market is predicted to grow slightly, International Data Corporation (IDC) said.

    According to IDC’s research in Indonesia’s handset market, Android OS’ market share this year will reach 60 percent, up from last year’s 56 percent. Meanwhile, BlackBerry achieves 30-35 percent market share, plummeting from last year’s 37 percent and Symbian’s market share is estimated down to zero percent from two percent. Windows Phone is estimated to rise to nine percent from two percent last year and iOS is predicted to remain three percent.
    11-12-13 11:00 PM
  2. zocster's Avatar
    Terima kasih for the info boss!
    11-13-13 12:26 AM
  3. badiyee's Avatar
    the title of the news was excellent: literaly translate as "who said BlackBerry got devoured by Android again?"
    jay sepia likes this.
    11-13-13 12:42 AM
  4. al750n's Avatar
    Indonesia is truly BlackBerry Nation..LOL

    Posted via CB10
    11-13-13 04:23 AM
  5. Whyareallthegoodnamestaken's Avatar
    Niiiiice. Good news is always welcome. Thanks OP.

    Posted via CB10
    11-13-13 04:28 AM
  6. howarmat's Avatar
    wonder how many are BBOS and how many BB10
    11-13-13 06:03 AM
  7. garnok's Avatar
    you all have to know that carrier in here are different from carrier in other country... majority are using pre paid...we can easily change our carrier...

    from the news we can see...that number 1 carrier telkomsel taking XL,Indosat and other smaller carrier BB subscribers...so in the end BB still losing market share to android. but at least in indonesia they still in better position than other BB market

    BB still widely used by indonesians but many people just using it for secondary phone, never upgrade just using their old BB phone.

    PS : Most sales come from legacy device..
    Last edited by garnok; 11-13-13 at 07:55 AM.
    kevinnugent, kbz1960 and Bbnivende like this.
    11-13-13 07:44 AM
  8. mbahsuro's Avatar
    mantap juragan.
    using Blackberry Z30 with Indosat right now.
    11-13-13 07:54 AM
  9. Kingdmen's Avatar
    wonder how many are BBOS and how many BB10
    If they're subscriptions then I'm assuming Legacy. But yeah its not clear.

    Posted via CB10
    11-13-13 09:28 AM
  10. sportline's Avatar
    Z10 price keep on dropping, but Q10 still too expensive . Don't see much enterprise users, or any news on BES in Indonesia. It shows that marketing and image building is not going well. I would say management change is urgent. Get the old heins guard out..if you can't sell go find work somewhere else! Heins is proved incompetent, so does boulben and the rest of his entourage. Chen will certainly not as forgiving.
    Get new people in and market their products to both corporate /government and retail. Talk to media. Advertise. Show your logo on a bus station, tv, etc.

    Jakarta, Indonesia
    11-13-13 09:44 AM
  11. wafiwanders's Avatar
    And others say different , When the Z10 was released the pre orders exceeded supply an BB lost a lot of business , in May there was a outage of BBM which Blackberry initially ignored, Blackberry is on the decline here and it is not hard to see Samsung is gaining fastly and ppl are using BBM on their Samsung.

    Article
    BlackBerry's decline in established Indonesian market a lesson for Apple, Samsung | NDTV Gadgets

    Extract

    The BlackBerry Z10 (Review I Pictures), however, debuted with $750 price tag, putting it beyond the reach of all but the most well-heeled Indonesian.

    "There was a lot of excitement at the time, but somehow the excitement did not translate into large numbers," Gokarn said, adding that most customers are now likely to use a second-hand BlackBerry, and carry it alongside another smartphone.

    The Z10 helped lift shipments in Asia in the second quarter of 2013, but it wasn't enough to counter the fall in shipments of older devices in markets such as India and Indonesia, said Kiranjeet Kaur, Singapore-based analyst at consultancy IDC.

    And while the appeal of the BBM remains strong, messaging services such as WhatsApp, Kakao Inc's KakaoTalk, Naver Corp's LINE and Tencent Holding Ltd's WeChat are increasingly popular alternatives.

    BlackBerry has said it would shortly release an Android version of its BBM application, a move likely to further slow sales of its handsets in emerging markets. A early version of the app that was leaked online was downloaded more than a million times.

    "Sales of Samsung or other Android phones will increase once they make BBM available on Android," said Eko, a BlackBerry retailer in Jakarta.

    BlackBerry intends to continue catering to some non-enterprise customers, a company spokesman said, but he declined to give details, citing the company's quiet period ahead of its full quarterly results on Friday.

    This lack of clarity has left the network operators that helped pioneer BlackBerry in emerging markets like Indonesia questioning the company's future in their country.

    Bekasi Indonesia
    11-13-13 09:59 AM
  12. badiyee's Avatar
    BlackBerry tried too damn hard to recover in US market, when they could have easily doubled down in South East Asian markets, but they abandoned SEA and went for a suicidal route in north america.
    11-13-13 07:46 PM
  13. sportline's Avatar
    Just like Palm. Never actually involved in SE Asia. Hell indonesia just got BlackBerry office few years ago..very recently, considering such a big market. And BlackBerry 10 with its super stupid pricing and positioning strategy. Who the hell wants 750$ Z10 on 10.1..minuscule battery, poor implementation, etc? They need to get competent people. Real marketers.

    Jakarta, Indonesia
    11-13-13 09:17 PM
  14. Brutal Efficiency's Avatar
    This is fantastic news!!!!

    BlackBerry Bold 9900; Q10; Z10 [BBM#6]
    11-13-13 10:19 PM
  15. kevinnugent's Avatar
    This is fantastic news!!!!

    BlackBerry Bold 9900; Q10; Z10 [BBM#6]
    I know any news is good news, but doesn't this just point out that Indonesians are using old BB devices, on cheap prepaid and not buying BB10 devices? Honestly, I can't see this as good news for the future of Blackberry.
    11-14-13 02:12 AM
  16. birdman_38's Avatar
    BlackBerry 10 is (or was) the future for this company. Someday legacy won't be supported. While I recognize the positivity in this story, it's concerning at the same time.

    BlackBerry needs to provide an affordable upgrade path to BB10 for these users.
    Last edited by birdman_38; 11-14-13 at 03:27 AM.
    11-14-13 02:21 AM
  17. sportline's Avatar
    I know any news is good news, but doesn't this just point out that Indonesians are using old BB devices, on cheap prepaid and not buying BB10 devices? Honestly, I can't see this as good news for the future of Blackberry.
    no breakdown on the actual sales/models so we're not sure. BB10 was priced too high. Now Z10 costs $400 off contract (was $650 initially),it's start selling slowly. trouble is the "too expensive" image lingers on.
    I don't really see any drawback of selling legacy devices..it's the carriers who hates legacy devices (because of smaller carrier cut/BIS). For blackberry, legacy devices probably has bigger margins than low-selling BB10 devices.
    No one would buy a Q5, without trackpad, for $400 whilst they can buy older curves for less than $200.let alone myriads of 4" Lumias and Androids.
    No one would be a Q10 or Z10 for $650, with that minuscule screen, no trackpad (it's a "better" Q5) whilst for the same money you can get Iphone5 16GB, Xperia Z, SGS4 etc.
    So again it's pricing, pricing, pricing.
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    11-14-13 02:37 AM
  18. garnok's Avatar
    no breakdown on the actual sales/models so we're not sure. BB10 was priced too high. Now Z10 costs $400 off contract (was $650 initially),it's start selling slowly. trouble is the "too expensive" image lingers on.
    I don't really see any drawback of selling legacy devices..it's the carriers who hates legacy devices (because of smaller carrier cut/BIS). For blackberry, legacy devices probably has bigger margins than low-selling BB10 devices.
    No one would buy a Q5, without trackpad, for $400 whilst they can buy older curves for less than $200.let alone myriads of 4" Lumias and Androids.
    No one would be a Q10 or Z10 for $650, with that minuscule screen, no trackpad (it's a "better" Q5) whilst for the same money you can get Iphone5 16GB, Xperia Z, SGS4 etc.
    So again it's pricing, pricing, pricing.
    and now every BB10 phone getting a huge price cut :
    * BB Z10 from $415 to $355
    * BB Q5 from $380 to $320
    * BB Q10 from $648 to $510

    they basically selling BB10 lower than other countries and inindonesia BB have to pay extra for taxes. but today most BB store are empty, it is telling you how bad BB10 situation in indonesia
    11-14-13 10:12 PM

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