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  1. neteng1000's Avatar
    These hacks are not mobile this does however still bring up the conversation about security both mobile and otherwise this can only be good for blackberry to keep shouting security is our focus. Unfortunately its going to take more people getting hacked to make things better for blackberry. Let's hope these incidents make corporations rethink their current security needs.

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    This was my point exactly. Glad someone understands

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    09-03-14 04:55 PM
  2. qbnkelt's Avatar
    This is huge to do with BlackBerry. They switched from BlackBerry to iPhone and it is obvious they don't have security on top of their minds. Maybe because they think they sell home related stuff and they have nothing to hide, they don't care about security. Now they have bite their own feet. CIO need to be fired.

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    There is nothing to do ones with the other. There are agencies and business that use BlackBerry that suffer data breaches.

    Some recent examples:

    CIA/Snowden

    IRS

    Social Security

    Department of Agriculture

    Data breaches are not always related to tech. Some are human errors.
    09-03-14 05:07 PM
  3. bakron1's Avatar
    With the latest round of security breaches and hacks occurring in the corporate sector, I think these CEO's are rethinking their security policies.

    This latest round of credit card hacks are affecting the companies when it hurts the most, their wallets. They have put security on the back burner for the sake of profitability. Maybe with this latest threat, they will start looking at both their credit card, corporate and mobile security measures.

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    09-03-14 05:09 PM
  4. CanuckBB's Avatar
    Cards across the pond have had chips for years. This country is far behind.
    Cards in the Great White North have had chip and pin for years as well. And NFC payment.
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    09-04-14 07:11 AM
  5. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Cards in the Great White North have had chip and pin for years as well. And NFC payment.
    I know. We're far behind here.
    NFC is nearly nonexistent in the businesses/services I interact with on a daily basis.

    I also don't think I would use NFC when/if it becomes common here. The fewer points where I can make my bank accounts vulnerable the better for me.

    I'm actually toying around with the idea of actually *carrying cash* now. I mean Target and now Home Depot?!? These are places I go to all the time.



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    09-04-14 07:21 AM
  6. diegonei's Avatar
    Cards across the pond have had chips for years. This country is far behind.
    Wait you mean I have this and the whole USA doesn't?!

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    09-04-14 09:23 AM
  7. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Wait you mean I have this and the whole USA doesn't?!

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    Only two banks have chip and PIN. Also a couple of federal credit unions. My banks in the US haven't got it, as with the majority of US banks. It's American Express and Barclay's I think that have them.

    Found this article:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifest...9f1_story.html
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    09-04-14 09:38 AM
  8. kfh227's Avatar
    No, it's another credit card hack like Target. Probably involves their POS terminals and servers.

    It has nothing to do with mobile devices used by employees.


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    I thought that the root cause was a vendors phone o nthe company network. IThe vendors phone was iOS or Android.
    09-04-14 10:17 AM
  9. CanuckBB's Avatar
    Wait you mean I have this and the whole USA doesn't?!

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    Most US banks that are issuing cards with chip are either chip-and-sign, or have them as 'convenience' for people who travel outside the US.
    09-04-14 10:18 AM
  10. CanuckBB's Avatar
    I know. We're far behind here.
    NFC is nearly nonexistent in the businesses/services I interact with on a daily basis.

    I also don't think I would use NFC when/if it becomes common here. The fewer points where I can make my bank accounts vulnerable the better for me.

    I'm actually toying around with the idea of actually *carrying cash* now. I mean Target and now Home Depot?!? These are places I go to all the time.



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    NFC usually has a low $$$ threshold, and will only work so many times before the chip-and-pin needs to be used to 'validate' the card.
    09-04-14 10:19 AM
  11. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I thought that the root cause was a vendors phone o nthe company network. IThe vendors phone was iOS or Android.

    I haven't seen that report. Is there a link? All I've seen is that they're investigating with the FBI for unusual activity.
    09-04-14 10:22 AM
  12. mikeo007's Avatar
    I haven't seen that report. Is there a link? All I've seen is that they're investigating with the FBI for unusual activity.
    It's pure and utter FUD, there likely is no link because there is no reputable source stating that. The only suggested source of the leak that I've seen has been possible malicious software installed on the registers themselves (the same thing that happened with Target). Home Depot's credit cards may have been hacked
    09-04-14 10:25 AM
  13. qbnkelt's Avatar
    NFC usually has a low $$$ threshold, and will only work so many times before the chip-and-pin needs to be used to 'validate' the card.
    Dang my pic won't load from my Lumia. Too big. Was trying to show what my Metro card looks like. Sounds like NFC by your description.
    09-04-14 10:29 AM
  14. qbnkelt's Avatar
    It's pure and utter FUD, there likely is no link because there is no reputable source stating that. The only suggested source of the leak that I've seen has been possible malicious software installed on the registers themselves (the same thing that happened with Target). Home Depot's credit cards may have been hacked
    Yah I haven't seem any mention of cause yet and nothing about mobile tech.


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    09-04-14 10:34 AM
  15. TBone4eva's Avatar
    You seriously think EMV is any more secure? It's more secure for the bank as they no longer carry the risk of having to pay for fraudulent charges on your account since the determination of "negligence" on your part is now on their hands.

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    No, it does not matter. Federal law in the US says that the consumer is not responsible for fraudulent charges once it has been reported and your maximum liability is $50 per card. The double edge sword to this is that because of the law, banks are using Chip and Signature, which would keep the liability with the bank instead of Chip and PIN, which would transfer liability to the consumer or merchant. The downside is that everyone else in the world uses Chip and PIN and so it can cause issues if you are at a kiosk or merchant that only uses Chip and PIN terminals.

    And yes, it is more secure. You really think EMV is not more secure than non-encrypted information on a magnetic strip? Does it mean that EMV can't be hacked? No, but it is more secure than the 1970s swipe technology that we're currently using.
    09-04-14 10:38 AM
  16. insandouts's Avatar
    If CIO decided to switch corporate phones from BlackBerry to iPhone, do you think he had security on top of his mind and is it a surprise they got hacked no matter where it was involved?

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    Target was hacked and they use Blackberry...so following your logic they got hacked because they use obsolete phone hardware.
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    09-04-14 10:40 AM
  17. insandouts's Avatar
    With the latest round of security breaches and hacks occurring in the corporate sector, I think these CEO's are rethinking their security policies.

    This latest round of credit card hacks are affecting the companies when it hurts the most, their wallets. They have put security on the back burner for the sake of profitability. Maybe with this latest threat, they will start looking at both their credit card, corporate and mobile security measures.

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    and if they do Blackberry will lose the 3% of enterprise that still use them because their MDM system is no longer the most secure
    09-04-14 10:46 AM
  18. shupor's Avatar
    Cards across the pond have had chips for years. This country is far behind.
    It is. Even 3rd world countries have adopted the chip cards
    09-04-14 10:46 AM
  19. shupor's Avatar
    Only two banks have chip and PIN. Also a couple of federal credit unions. My banks in the US haven't got it, as with the majority of US banks. It's American Express and Barclay's I think that have them.

    Found this article:

    Chip-and-PIN cards, coming soon (hopefully) to a U.S. bank near you. You?ll need them. - The Washington Post
    Bank of America has introduced it within the past year but it's currently only available on credit cards
    09-04-14 10:49 AM
  20. TBone4eva's Avatar
    Dang my pic won't load from my Lumia. Too big. Was trying to show what my Metro card looks like. Sounds like NFC by your description.
    Metro announced earlier this year that they had signed a contract to upgrade the fair gates to accept "chip-enabled credit cards, federal government ID cards, and mobile phones using near field communications (NFC)". Should be interesting, but I'll believe when I see it when it comes to Metro.

    Metro - About Metro - News - Washington Metro awards Accenture major contract for new electronic fare payment system to improve customer experience
    09-04-14 10:53 AM
  21. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Metro announced earlier this year that they had signed a contract to upgrade the fair gates to accept "chip-enabled credit cards, federal government ID cards, and mobile phones using near field communications (NFC)". Should be interesting, but I'll believe when I see it when it comes to Metro.

    Metro - About Metro - News - Washington Metro awards Accenture major contract for new electronic fare payment system to improve customer experience
    That would be quite the change. The transit subsidy would have to go to the new cards. I expect that the transit subsidy would go directly to a person's bank if the person would use an NFC enabled phone.




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    09-04-14 10:58 AM
  22. kbz1960's Avatar
    I know. We're far behind here.
    NFC is nearly nonexistent in the businesses/services I interact with on a daily basis.

    I also don't think I would use NFC when/if it becomes common here. The fewer points where I can make my bank accounts vulnerable the better for me.

    I'm actually toying around with the idea of actually *carrying cash* now. I mean Target and now Home Depot?!? These are places I go to all the time.



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    One of the reasons I still use cash. Hack that
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    09-04-14 11:00 AM
  23. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Bank of America has introduced it within the past year but it's currently only available on credit cards
    Yah I haven't got a BofA credit card.

    But if they're doing it now that would mean others are coming too. It sure would make hopping the pond easier.


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    09-04-14 11:00 AM
  24. qbnkelt's Avatar
    One of the reasons I still use cash. Hack that
    I'm starting to think of embracing that.


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    09-04-14 11:01 AM
  25. Akainzo's Avatar
    Only two banks have chip and PIN. Also a couple of federal credit unions. My banks in the US haven't got it, as with the majority of US banks. It's American Express and Barclay's I think that have them.

    Found this article:

    Chip-and-PIN cards, coming soon (hopefully) to a U.S. bank near you. You?ll need them. - The Washington Post

    My Bank of America Visa has had chips for four years on now. Maybe, it is a Visa standard or something.
    09-04-14 11:32 AM
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