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  1. sbndrf's Avatar
    You may remember that BlackBerry bought the German company SECUSMART that modified BB10 for use by the German Government. According to the article liked to below (in German) the deal gets approved because BlackBerry grants access to the BB10 source.

    What to think of this? Where will this end? Every country will want to see the code and then try to find security holes ...

    Source:
    Article
    11-28-14 03:20 AM
  2. notfakeprofile's Avatar
    That's okay, as long thet don't get access to encryption keys

    Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry Passport.
    11-28-14 03:27 AM
  3. thurask's Avatar
    Word of the day: Kryptohandy

    Posted via CB10
    11-28-14 04:24 AM
  4. Rjinswand's Avatar
    What to think of this? Where will this end? Every country will want to see the code and then try to find security holes ...
    Good thing. They are going to check it thoroughly for NSA backdoors, with good reason. It's not about exploiting security holes but about limiting foreign agencies from accessing confidential information.
    11-28-14 04:58 AM
  5. MobileMadness002's Avatar
    If you want to locate vulnerabilities in your coding, you get fresh eyes to view it.

    Program Debugging 101.
    11-28-14 07:24 AM
  6. PaulJosaph's Avatar
    What synergy they could avail with this acquisition?
    11-28-14 07:33 AM
  7. neteng1000's Avatar
    What synergy they could avail with this acquisition?
    To encrypt the voice traffic

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    dusdal, Superfly_FR and bungaboy like this.
    11-28-14 07:38 AM
  8. jojo beaconsfield's Avatar
    It's the price they have to pay if they want to acquire that particular German company,it's all Good!!
    11-28-14 07:44 AM
  9. FSeverino's Avatar
    Basic source code is a lot different than encryption keys and server access

    Posted via CB10
    11-28-14 08:23 AM
  10. Bungalow_Bill's Avatar
    I'd be glad to know the Germans were on our side for this. Given their experience with the old Stasi of East Germany they ought to be very helpful dealing with the New Stasi of America (and others).

    Posted via CB10
    11-28-14 08:30 AM
  11. THBW's Avatar
    Look, the Germans were burnt big time by American Tech companies that bald faced lied. Apple and Google have actively colluded with the NSA to provide backdoor access via their phone source code and their servers to spy on people, particularly in foreign countries. It is disgusting behavior and it hasn't stopped. Don't even get me started about encryption keys and whether Apple has provided then, free of charge to the NSA. Can't get a straight answer out of either when this question is asked. Fortunately, BlackBerry hasn?t sold it's soul to the devil and still has integrity. That is why the German government along with most of the other G20 governments go with BlackBerry.

    So, it is pretty simple when it comes to wireless security. BlackBerry sells them their own BES servers with their own enhanced encryption key and then phones with source code that can be scanned for vulnerabilities. Smart move by the Germans and a show of confidence by BlackBerry. Now BlackBerry can throw scrambled voice on top of it all. Brilliant move from a business perspective.

    Posted via CB10
    11-28-14 08:31 AM
  12. abwan11's Avatar
    Google is the government

    Posted via CB10
    11-28-14 03:21 PM
  13. Asvertus's Avatar
    I hope, that has a benefit for ALL BlackBerry Users.

    Posted via CB10 on Z30 (10.3.1.1154)
    11-28-14 03:34 PM
  14. BCITMike's Avatar
    This is common, afaik.

    I didn't read the article, but did they mention escrow?

    Posted via CB10
    11-28-14 03:41 PM
  15. jpvj's Avatar
    That's okay, as long thet don't get access to encryption keys

    Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry Passport.
    What encryption keys??

    Posted via CB10
    11-28-14 04:03 PM
  16. mnc76's Avatar
    What synergy they could avail with this acquisition?
    You can buy fake cell phone towers for around $250 now (they're very small and portable but with, obviously much smaller range than a real tower). Phones nearby will automatically connect to it since it has the strongest signal.

    The owner of the mini-tower can then eavesdrop on conversations. For example, they can be placed in a hotel where dignitaries / politicians are known to be staying.

    By having voice traffic encrypted, the conversations cannot be listened to even if they go through the mini-tower.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/for-crim...prime-targets/

    http://www.dailytech.com/US+Marshals...ticle36890.htm

    Posted from my awesome White Z30
    Superfly_FR likes this.
    11-28-14 04:39 PM
  17. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    (F)OSS wisdom tells you:
    the more eyes look at it, the better...

    The Germans don't want to get backdoored, and BlackBerry doesn't want to get embarrassed. They should do a compile run and check whether they actually end up with the same OS... haha ! :-D

    ? ? ? Zzzzwipetyped from The Maskport - Zzzzmoqin'.... ? ? ?
    11-28-14 07:04 PM
  18. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    I'd be glad to know the Germans were on our side for this. Given their experience with the old Stasi of East Germany they ought to be very helpful dealing with the New Stasi of America (and others).

    Posted via CB10
    LOL. Our side?
    mornhavon and sentimentGX4 like this.
    11-28-14 08:07 PM
  19. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    Apple and Google have actively colluded with the NSA to provide backdoor access via their phone source code and their servers to spy on people, particularly in foreign countries.
    This is the delusional rantings that make everyone here look bad. Of course, you have some evidence for all this, right? Because if this was true, why would these countries (or our own) continue to use these companies' products?

    Next you're going to tell us about the alien bodies at Roswell.
    11-28-14 08:20 PM
  20. dbmalloy's Avatar
    So many myths out there... first as for the "source code".... pretty sure when BB got DOD clearance they had to submit the same information..... in the case of BB10... security is baked into the OS through the various encryption and NOC structure... Unless you can compromise the the servers, encryption and NOC... there is not much to gain by having the source code..... add to that fact that BB security is a combination of software and hardware checks unique to each device....to just boot the OS on a the phone you would need to mod the hardware and the software... good luck with that....... Unlike Android which is open source so everyone and their dog has access to and too much time of their hands to figure out all the security holes.... with no corresponding check and balances on the security and encryption side of most Android schemes.... it makes the platform ripe for hacks...... As for who has spied on whom.... does it really matter... everyone is busily spying on everyone else... but unsubstantiated reports of backdoors, secret deals.... vast Apple conspiracies theories .... what us the point when there is no proof anywhere.... if you cannot document it... you should not say it,.....
    11-28-14 08:52 PM
  21. Supa_Fly1's Avatar
    You can buy fake cell phone towers for around $250 now (they're very small and portable but with, obviously much smaller range than a real tower). Phones nearby will automatically connect to it since it has the strongest signal.

    The owner of the mini-tower can then eavesdrop on conversations. For example, they can be placed in a hotel where dignitaries / politicians are known to be staying.

    By having voice traffic encrypted, the conversations cannot be listened to even if they go through the mini-tower.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/for-crim...prime-targets/

    http://www.dailytech.com/US+Marshals...ticle36890.htm

    Posted from my awesome White Z30
    LOL, there is a LOT more to it than that. The carriers Switch has to authenticate said tower through the providers own Base Station, or a roaming providers towers Base Station no roaming profile agreeing to the hand-off before it occurs.

    You can scan but you cannot force a cell phone to migrate over, ignoring this process. If not then you get broken telephone - literary.

    BlackBerry - Accept no substitute. Period!
    11-28-14 09:06 PM
  22. THBW's Avatar
    This is the delusional rantings that make everyone here look bad. Of course, you have some evidence for all this, right? Because if this was true, why would these countries (or our own) continue to use these companies' products?

    Next you're going to tell us about the alien bodies at Roswell.
    Just read the New York Times dude. There has been at least a dozen articles in the last six months documenting the relationship between Google, apple, the NSA and the white house. They meet twice a month in Washington to coordinate activities . Do you not read popular media?

    Have you not figured out why countries like China actually ban the full operations of Apple's iCloud? Or how about Brazil and the way it restricts Google's operations in their country. These things happen for a reason and it centers on electronic monitoring and the NSA. Time to get out of that cave and to look around.

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    11-28-14 11:36 PM
  23. tchocky77's Avatar
    Another hilarious thread.

    Has any other tech player granted any government access to their mobile OS source code.

    I'd like to see ANY evidence anyone besides BlackBerry, desperate for partners wherever it can find them(Samsung?!), has ever handed their source over to any government.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    sentimentGX4 likes this.
    11-29-14 04:46 AM
  24. THBW's Avatar
    Another hilarious thread.

    Has any other tech player granted any government access to their mobile OS source code.

    I'd like to see ANY evidence anyone besides BlackBerry, desperate for partners wherever it can find them(Samsung?!), has ever handed their source over to any government.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    If your going to say your source code is unhackable and can't be exploited, you better put your money where your mouth is. The German government expects to verify that claim. Do you honestly think there going to just take BlackBerry's word for it. Good one.

    We all remember the disastrous introduction of the Android platform to the German government. In less than two days, the NSA was directly reading Merkel's mobile communications. This was an unmitigated international disaster for all involved. Obama had to publicly apologize twice to Merkel. In response to this breach, Germany publicly expelled high level NSA and CIA employees, something that has never ever happen before. German and US relations are still at an all time low.

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    11-29-14 05:49 AM
  25. huungryshark's Avatar
    No doubt, there are Backdoors in any OS. We need to make sure its backdoor free for Angela
    11-29-14 06:04 AM
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