1. dbollman423's Avatar
    Get out the popcorn this looks quite interesting. So Google says that it has a strong case in mobility because they have driven down cost while increasing choices but the EU says that in non-mobile they have driven searches to their customers and cost others billions.

    What say you?

    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/eu-announc...--finance.html

    BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Union will accuse Google Inc on Wednesday of abusing its dominant position in Internet searches, opening the U.S. tech company up to a risk of massive fines and enforced changes in its business model, the Financial Times and Wall Street Journal said on Tuesday.
    However, two sources familiar with the matter told Reuters that a formal antitrust charge sheet will not be ready for Wednesday and could take several more months to draw up. The EU can impose fines of up to 10 percent of global turnover, or more than $6 billion in penalties in Google's case.
    An EU official said Competition Commissioner Margrethe Vestager would make an important announcement about Google on Wednesday, after the EU's executive holds its weekly meeting.
    The Commission's chief spokesman would not confirm the reports, which cited EU officials, but said there would be a news conference around noon after the meeting.
    Vestager, who had indicated she would not be rushed into a decision on the five-year-old case, is due to fly to the United States later on Wednesday for a high-profile working visit. Americans, including business leaders and President Barack Obama, have questioned EU efforts to curb the power of U.S. tech companies.
    The Danish liberal will accuse Google of breaching competition law by diverting traffic from rivals to favor its own services, said the FT, adding that some fellow commissioners had been concerned Vestager was narrowing the probe.
    In an internal memo published by blog Re/code, Google acknowledged the "disappointing news" and said the process would include a back and forth over European Commission concerns that could take a year or two and eventually land in court.
    "We have a very strong case, with especially good arguments when it comes to better services for users and increased competition," the memo said. Google declined to comment or confirm that the memo was genuine.
    The possibility of an early announcement of action against Google was made public earlier this week by Guenther Oettinger, the conservative German commissioner for the digital economy, who has been a sharp critic of Google and has spoken up for the interests of European technology and publishing companies.
    Separately, Vestager will launch an investigation into Google's Android mobile software business, the FT said. Google in the internal memo said it had a strong case on Android since the operating system had lowered prices and increased choices for consumers.
    The Commission has been laying the groundwork for a case centered on whether Google abuses the dominant market share of Android to promote its own services.
    Vestager made the decision to go ahead with charges on Tuesday together with European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker and will inform her colleagues on Wednesday, the Journal said. In office since November, Juncker's executive has put the fostering of Europe's digital economy and free trade with the United States among its priorities, but some EU officials are concerned U.S. companies are choking European competitors.
    Vestager has narrowed the case, which she inherited from her Spanish predecessor, Joaquin Almunia - who rejected three settlement proposals from Google - the FT said.
    Andreas Schwab, a German conservative member of the European Parliament who has pushed for the EU executive to consider even breaking up Google, told Reuters earlier this week he expected the Commission to bring competition charges against the company.
    However, industry and EU sources played down earlier on Tuesday suggestions that Vestager was about to announce charges against the Google.
    The EU investigation is one of the highest profile competition cases of recent years, rivaling probes into Microsoft Corp, and comes amid political disquiet in Europe at the perceived dominance of U.S. tech companies.
    Almunia launched the probe in 2010 and initially concluded that Google may have hurt competitors by favoring its own products and services in search results and blocking advertisers from moving their campaigns to rival platforms.
    Since then, Google has offered three proposals to resolve the case. Most recently, just over a year ago, it offered to give competing products and services bigger visibility on its website, let content providers decide what material it can use for its own services and make it easier for advertisers to move their campaigns to rivals.
    Almunia initially accepted that deal, only to reverse his decision six months later and demand more concessions, leaving the ultimate decision to his successor.
    Microsoft has been hit with total EU fines of more than 2.2 billion euros ($2.34 billion) over the past decade.

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    04-14-15 09:26 PM
  2. xandros9's Avatar
    04-14-15 09:39 PM
  3. world traveler and former ceo's Avatar
    I am surprised the EU has not gone after Apple for their "anti competitive deals with carriers".... as the Canadian government via the CRTC is now doing.... microsoft... Goggle.. can Apple be far off?

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    04-15-15 12:36 AM
  4. Alvin Loh's Avatar
    I love Google in the past.....it's quite sad but now I have totally get rid of Google services except for youtube

    search : duckduckgo
    email : icloud mail
    browser : Firefox

    turn off all search history in Google setting like Web searches, youtube searches and youtube history

    damn my Internet is much better and open now ~

    they have gone too far with all the data breaches and data tracking in recent years and it's unforgivable.

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    04-15-15 04:28 AM
  5. sentimentGX4's Avatar
    I think for Android that Google may be monopolistic in its services but it certainly hasn't increased the cost of owning a device for a consumer.

    Google should just start charging licensing fees for Android in Europe and unbundle its services if that is what the politicians want.
    04-15-15 10:06 AM
  6. Black Ice's Avatar
    Ya beat me to it! :-)

    04-15-15 10:08 AM
  7. Black Ice's Avatar
    This is why I dumpster my android! It's the ads that follow you around that made me mad as hell.
    Phone knew more about my occupation than I do!
    Someone mentioned an app to stop Google from tracking us on BlackBerry OS 10.3 does anyone know the name of that app?
    Thanks!

    04-15-15 10:12 AM
  8. tdawg00's Avatar
    So the maintainer of Android cant bundle their own superior services on their own software. I guess McD's better start advertising Subway sandwiches. Imagine being the best employee at work and the boss comes up to you and says " Sorry Bob, youre too successful and make too much money. So you have to give some of your salary to Tim, because he hasnt been successful in any of his ideas in the last 15 years"
    04-16-15 09:16 PM
  9. tdawg00's Avatar
    This is why I dumpster my android! It's the ads that follow you around that made me mad as hell.
    Phone knew more about my occupation than I do!
    Someone mentioned an app to stop Google from tracking us on BlackBerry OS 10.3 does anyone know the name of that app?
    Thanks!

    Blackberry doesnt track you?
    04-16-15 09:16 PM
  10. Alvin Loh's Avatar
    Blackberry doesnt track you?
    Google track you for advertising, BlackBerry track you for device feedback....so which is better?

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    04-17-15 04:50 AM
  11. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    Google track you for advertising, BlackBerry track you for device feedback....so which is better?
    LOL.
    sentimentGX4, LazyEvul and tdawg00 like this.
    04-17-15 06:20 AM
  12. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    Google track you for advertising, BlackBerry track you for device feedback....so which is better?

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    To make your device and your next one even better...? :-)

      Passposted while waiting for the Z-lider....  
    Alvin Loh likes this.
    04-18-15 11:02 PM
  13. lnichols's Avatar
    To make your device and your next one even better...? :-)

      Passposted while waiting for the Z-lider....  
    Only if it has a PKB.... All touch bad! So they shouldn't be sending me ads or tracking my info since I'm not a customer they want right?

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    04-19-15 07:19 PM
  14. tdawg00's Avatar
    Google track you for advertising, BlackBerry track you for device feedback....so which is better?

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    So there isnt ads in BBM?
    04-19-15 07:31 PM
  15. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    So there isnt ads in BBM?
    Those are good, wholesome ads.
    04-19-15 07:42 PM
  16. Black Ice's Avatar
    Bad robot! Bad robot!!! You know better!

    04-20-15 06:47 PM
  17. Black Ice's Avatar
    One to improve upon the other to ram products and services down your throat like it or not.


    04-20-15 06:49 PM

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