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  1. ubizmo's Avatar
    Here are a few thoughts.

    Look at Chen's body language when he is asked the question. His eyes look down and away. He was clearly taken aback.

    If BlackBerry has no Android plans, this was clearly the wrong answer. Why not make say something like "BlackBerry has spent several years developing a world class operating system in BlackBerry 10. It is secure, more advanced, and better focused on our customers' needs than rival operating systems. So, our focus is BB10."

    Hey, if Microsoft can make an Android phone, should we be surprised that BlackBerry might?

    I bet this project has been under development for a long time.
    I agree with this. Chen acknowledges the point that B10 can already run Android apps, and the interviewer follows up with, "How far a leap is it from that to just making Android handsets?" That's when Chen becomes less forthright in his manner of speaking and says, "If there's enough money on the table, maybe we'll do something about it. I can't comment on that."

    In this short interview, Chen is given at least two opportunities to say something like, "That isn't the path we've decided to follow at this time," or something like that, which still allows for a future change of direction. But both times, he doesn't give that kind of response. Instead, he says "I can't comment on that."

    To me, all of this says that this idea already has legs. We don't know, however, what form it might take. Another way of saying the "money on the table" thing is, "If the price is right, we'd do an Android BlackBerry." That, in itself, would be nothing more than a blue-sky kind of comment, but in conjunction with "I can't comment on that," it conveys that there is something under discussion. At least, that's the sense I get from it.

    If there is in fact money on the table, it might not be, and probably isn't, Google's money. I'm thinking the conversation is with some OEM, such as HTC, Sony, LG, take your pick. It would be an Android OEM looking for a way to differentiate itself from the pack, without giving up the Android ecosystem.

    While we're on Fantasy Island, here's a question: Suppose it turns out there's going to be a Sony BlackBerry Android device, with full Google Play access. It would have, as near as possible, a B10 skin. Would BlackBerry be allowed to label apps in Google Play as "Built for BlackBerry," meaning that these apps pass BlackBerry's security standards in some way?
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    05-30-14 04:00 PM
  2. zocster's Avatar
    The only explanation I think is possible is that they might consider a forked BB10/Android OS. Sort of like the Nokia X.

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    Nothing wrong with that! I would love the functionality of android in a bb10 shell

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    05-30-14 04:02 PM
  3. NinjaB's Avatar
    lol

    for some of y'all, it sounds like he needs to just respond to all future inquiries with a blank stare.. i guess that would be better.
    05-30-14 04:17 PM
  4. anon(6038817)'s Avatar
    "No comment" spelled backwards is "tnemmoc on". Yes, but tnemmoc on what?! What are you playing at, Chen?!

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    05-30-14 04:30 PM
  5. tinochiko's Avatar
    He actually didn't say 'no comment', he said 'I can't comment'

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    05-30-14 04:42 PM
  6. bmantz65's Avatar
    If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
    05-30-14 05:05 PM
  7. Orange UK's Avatar
    Ask yourself why a CEO refuses to let BIS live long term and now Android...Blackberries CORE...SECURITY = strip & SELL OFF business parts and patents.
    05-30-14 05:11 PM
  8. Ment's Avatar
    While we're on Fantasy Island, here's a question: Suppose it turns out there's going to be a Sony BlackBerry Android device, with full Google Play access. It would have, as near as possible, a B10 skin. Would BlackBerry be allowed to label apps in Google Play as "Built for BlackBerry," meaning that these apps pass BlackBerry's security standards in some way?
    What does "Built for BlackBerry," even mean in term of Google apps. They can certify that info only goes to Google controlled entity but they don't control it and even though Google has a good record of keeping info in house since its vital to the business model they can't force Google to abide by any type of TOS.

    LG or HTC could work with BB in a partnership if they want to compete with Samsung Knox and don't want to develop a container solution of their own. An LG 4 BB edition or HTC One 9 BB edition. I think thats a more likely scenario than a full on Blackberry Android phone.
    05-30-14 06:03 PM
  9. birdman_38's Avatar
    He actually didn't say 'no comment', he said 'I can't comment'
    Even worse! lol
    05-30-14 06:42 PM
  10. Koepman's Avatar
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    Check out this Chen interview. He refuses to comment on whether BlackBerry will sell an Android phone.

    To me this suggests that BlackBerry is building an Android phone.

    I don't know how I feel about this.

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    BB10 runs android apps...

    They don't would spend time and money for another OS...

    Just BS!

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    05-30-14 06:46 PM
  11. anon(6038817)'s Avatar
    He actually didn't say 'no comment', he said 'I can't comment'

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    From that I infer that he is about to completely revamp BlackBerry's business model and product offerings to change them into a manufacturer and distributor of actual blackberry food products, starting with the "Classic BlackBerry Pie".
    05-30-14 06:51 PM
  12. dphjeff's Avatar
    I personally don't see any advantage to BlackBerry switching to an Android OS. Just another Android device. How with that make them sale more phones??????
    05-30-14 07:39 PM
  13. grover5's Avatar
    He's obviously building a BlackBerry iPhone. It's clear as day. Just look at his body language and his brushing off the question.

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    05-30-14 07:55 PM
  14. Glenn Biddle's Avatar
    I see more of an advantage Google to move over to BlackBerry. If Google play put on top the BlackBerry OS. Google could continue to get its revenue from selling it's apps wile on a secure platform. BlackBerry could continue to sell phones and maybe license it's OS to other Android manufacturers in order to complete against Samsung

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    05-30-14 08:01 PM
  15. dphjeff's Avatar
    I see more of an advantage Google to move over to BlackBerry. If Google play put on top the BlackBerry OS. Google could continue to get its revenue from selling it's apps wile on a secure platform. BlackBerry could continue to sell phones and maybe license it's OS to other Android manufacturers in order to complete against Samsung

    Posted via CB10
    Why the fook would you purchase a Blackberry phone if it was running an Android OS? There are other option out there and they are a dime a dozen. Yes I would say BlackBerry os the would connect to Google Play. But a completely Blackberry OS. Google and security is an oxymoron.
    05-30-14 08:33 PM
  16. Irish Blues's Avatar
    Only during every product launch he's been involved in.
    And how many has Chen been involved in so far? One - the Z3. Again, what exactly was he supposed to say on the launch of the Z3 that would constitute an acceptable defense of BB10?

    On Cook's "defense of iOS" on every product launch - if you're going to assert he has, I'd like to see links backing it up. The standard of proof will be that Cook not only defends iOS, but proclaims it to be superior to every other mobile OS available; any quote that does not do at least that much will not be considered an acceptable defense.

    Does general mills ever get asked if they will start using Kelloggs ingredients in their cereal? Does GE ever get asked if the are going to start using a competitors toaster coils?
    Using lawguyman's logic, since they've never said "no" whether the question has been asked or not, I can only assume that they've left the door open to it.
    05-30-14 08:50 PM
  17. DS1331's Avatar
    Why the fook would you purchase a Blackberry phone if it was running an Android OS? There are other option out there and they are a dime a dozen. Yes I would say BlackBerry os the would connect to Google Play. But a completely Blackberry OS. Google and security is an oxymoron.
    Downloading porn from a third party site isn't secure yes. I have had like 7 android phones with hundreds of apps and never had any issues with security. If blackberry made an android Q10 that's my dream device

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    05-30-14 08:54 PM
  18. Glenn Biddle's Avatar
    You obviously didn't read the post. I said that they should be running Google apps on the BlackBerry operating system I said this for the very reason that android is an unsecured system, so if Google wants titan their security, especially where it is imperative that they do so, such as banking or money transfers they might do better moving to the BlackBerry platform. BlackBerry already supports android run times and they will be up graded in 10.3 once these apps running on blackberry, you could have them BlackBerry certified for extra security or if it was imperative that your phone be secure for enterprise your phone could be restricted to BlackBerry world or BlackBerry certified apps only.

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    05-30-14 09:22 PM
  19. dphjeff's Avatar
    You obviously didn't read the post. I said that they should be running Google apps on the BlackBerry operating system I said this for the very reason that android is an unsecured system, so if Google wants titan their security, especially where it is imperative that they do so, such as banking or money transfers they might do better moving to the BlackBerry platform. BlackBerry already supports android run times and they will be up graded in 10.3 once these apps running on blackberry, you could have them BlackBerry certified for extra security or if it was imperative that your phone be secure for enterprise your phone could be restricted to BlackBerry world or BlackBerry certified apps only.

    Posted via CB10
    I agree with you. One of the biggest complaints I have is we can't turn off things in application permission when you run Android apps. Yes, I will hear from someone that if I want to use an Android app that is part of the game.
    This is what I will do, I have seven BlackBerry devices and if they go with an Android OS I'm going to throw them in a pile and light them on fire. I guarantee they will not be replaced with Android.
    05-30-14 09:40 PM
  20. katiepea's Avatar
    I agree with you. One of the biggest complaints I have is we can't turn off things in application permission when you run Android apps. Yes, I will hear from someone that if I want to use an Android app that is part of the game.
    This is what I will do, I have seven BlackBerry devices and if they go with an Android OS I'm going to throw them in a pile and light them on fire. I guarantee they will not be replaced with Android.
    replaced, probably not, but I would consider it a bad move to not offer an android option as an alternative.
    05-30-14 09:41 PM
  21. dphjeff's Avatar
    replaced, probably not, but I would consider it a bad move to not offer an android option as an alternative.
    I dislike Apple almost as much as Google but what other option is there. I guess one can go back to dumb phones.
    05-30-14 09:55 PM
  22. Glenn Biddle's Avatar
    I really don't understand why you should get all worked up about it it would still be the same BlackBerry phone it's quite simple if you don't want any android apps on your phone just don't download any. Just because he don't want them dose this mean that nobody else should have the option. As I said if you also gave a BlackBerry certification for apps for secure apps then that may encourage the developers to also build the apps for BlackBerry.

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    05-30-14 09:58 PM
  23. koool1's Avatar
    I suspect a better BB10 OS version is coming with full Google and Google Play integration.

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    05-30-14 10:13 PM
  24. dphjeff's Avatar
    I really don't understand why you should get all worked up about it it would still be the same BlackBerry phone it's quite simple if you don't want any android apps on your phone just don't download any. Just because he don't want them dose this mean that nobody else should have the option. As I said if you also gave a BlackBerry certification for apps for secure apps then that may encourage the developers to also build the apps for BlackBerry.

    Posted via CB10
    Your misunderstanding me, I don't have a problem with android run time on BB10. Having the option is great. seeing how we will not see any native Blackberry apps worth a damn. Its just something we are just going to have to live with.
    05-30-14 10:19 PM
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