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  1. labyrinth9's Avatar
    11-13-14 12:21 PM
  2. howarmat's Avatar
    Very interesting to see where this goes
    11-13-14 12:22 PM
  3. rocker_man1's Avatar
    Wish I could read the entire article.

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    11-13-14 12:25 PM
  4. thurask's Avatar
    How very Faustian.

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    11-13-14 12:25 PM
  5. anon1727506's Avatar
    Wish I could read the entire article.

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    BlackBerry also release a press statement, that you can read..... Sounds like Samsung is going to sell their hardware with Android and KNOX, along with BlackBerry's BES12 package as part of their competing secure business platform. Good for BlackBerry services division, not so good for BB10 or Hardware.
    11-13-14 12:31 PM
  6. labyrinth9's Avatar
    11-13-14 12:32 PM
  7. WZFoster's Avatar
    For those that can't see the entire WSJ article


    SAN FRANCISCO— BlackBerry Ltd. and Samsung Electronics Co. on Thursday agreed to sell each other’s mobile-security technology, a partnership that could help them win more enterprise customers.

    The announcement came as BlackBerry unveiled its new mobile-security software—dubbed BlackBerry Enterprise Service 12, or BES12—a key part of its plan to double revenue from software sales to $500 million and return to profitability in its next fiscal year by winning back corporate and government business.

    BlackBerry’s share of the global smartphone market has shrunk to a sliver, and the Canadian company is losing ground to rivals in sales of mobile-security software. The tie-up with Samsung, the world’s largest mobile-phone maker, will give BlackBerry access to a larger customer base to sell BES12, and comes as many companies seek one security solution to manage their employees’ various mobile devices.

    Samsung, meanwhile, stands to benefit from BlackBerry’s stronger reputation for mobile security. That could help the South Korean electronics giant accelerate its efforts to expand in the enterprise market, where it has struggled to gain traction.

    Selling more devices to corporate customers could also relieve some pressure on Samsung as its dominance in the consumer market comes under attack from less-expensive handsets made by Xiaomi Inc. and other Chinese vendors.

    Samsung and BlackBerry are often characterized as rivals in the enterprise market, but their security technologies can be complementary. Samsung’s security platform, Knox, comes embedded in certain Samsung Galaxy devices, allowing users to separate personal and work data to ensure corporate security and employee privacy. Meanwhile, BlackBerry’s technology allows companies to remotely manage devices to prevent security breaches and data loss as content and applications move between those devices and corporate networks.

    BES12 works on non-BlackBerry operating systems, including Google Inc. ’s Android, used by Samsung devices, Apple Inc. ’s iOS and Microsoft Corp.’s Windows. That means BlackBerry can win business from sales of the software even if business customers don’t use its devices.

    The partnership will allow both BlackBerry and Samsung to generate revenue from companies that choose to adopt Knox-embedded Samsung devices for their workers and want BES12 to manage these devices. BlackBerry and Samsung will split the revenue from these sales, but the companies haven’t disclosed that breakdown.

    The deal “isn’t about one company displacing the other,” John Sims, head of BlackBerry’s enterprise business, said in an interview. “This is about one and one makes three.”

    For Samsung, the BlackBerry deal is the latest in a string of alliances it has forged with enterprise players, most recently a partnership with German software company SAP SE announced on Tuesday to better integrate Samsung’s range of mobile devices with SAP’s enterprise mobile offerings.

    “Combined with BES12 we will offer more options for customers,” Injong Rhee, a Samsung senior vice president, said in a statement.

    Annual global revenue from enterprise mobility-management software are expected to more than quadruple to $5.75 billion in 2018, driven by greater use of mobile devices at work, a surge in mobile apps and increased security threats, according to Radicati Group Inc., a market-research firm.

    BlackBerry, though, has been losing share in this market. Last year, it led the enterprise mobile-management market measured by revenue with an estimated 14.4% share, according to International Data Corp. But rivals, including MobileIron Inc., VMware Inc.-owned Airwatch and Citrix Systems Inc., are eating into BlackBerry’s business.

    BlackBerry wasn’t “on a growth path from 2012 to 2013” and it appears it will see declines this year, said Stacy Crook, an IDC analyst. Revenue could stabilize in 2015 if BES12 proves to be a hit, she added.

    Samsung’s Knox has also struggled, partly because it is considered too costly, some analysts said. In addition to the extra cost companies pay to have Samsung devices installed with Knox, they also need to adopt mobile device-management software to oversee these devices on the corporate network at an extra expense. In May, Samsung indicated it had 87 million devices installed with Knox, but only 1.8 million were actively using the platform.

    BlackBerry’s challenge is to ensure BES12 lives up to its billing. BlackBerry’s current mobile-management offering, BES10, is also meant to work across device types, but it isn’t as effective for non-BlackBerry devices, according to some companies and analysts.

    The Canadian arm of U.S. broker Investment Technology Group Inc. uses BES10 software for the BlackBerry phones on its network, but relies on Citrix technology to manage its employees’ iPads, since Citrix allows users to more effectively separate personal and work data on Apple devices, said Daljit Bhartt, the unit’s IT head.

    ITG’s Canadian arm would consider adopting BES12 for all devices used by the firm’s 105 employees, provided it works equally well across operating systems. “If we can consolidate the [mobile device management] solution, we will take a look at it,” he said.

    BES12 won’t replicate BES10 problems, BlackBerry’s Mr. Sims predicted. “BES12 was built from the bottom up to be a cross-platform solution,” while BES10 was built to manage BlackBerrys before additional features were added, he said.
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    11-13-14 12:32 PM
  8. bbmme's Avatar
    Did not expect at all. But I trust Chen=p

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    11-13-14 03:32 PM
  9. WZFoster's Avatar
    Just look at the shareholder response, BBRY up $1.14 (10.07%) NYSE today. So that's a good sign.

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    11-13-14 03:39 PM
  10. John Vieira's Avatar
    Blackberry gets some revenue from BES12 from firms who would otherwise not buy Blackberry devices anyway.

    This also makes it so that other companies go "hey, we should partner with Blackberry as well instead of trying to make our own platform"

    Which means more profit. And with Samsung support, they can destroy Good and Mobile Iron.

    Furthermore, if Blackberry decides to stop making devices, they will still have devices to represent.

    This is the closest thing to Blackberry going Android, without it actually happening.

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    11-13-14 03:40 PM
  11. abwan11's Avatar
    Does Google come along, indirectly?



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    11-13-14 05:01 PM
  12. ALToronto's Avatar
    I hope this leads to Google Services being available for BBs.

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    11-13-14 07:04 PM
  13. Bluenoser63's Avatar
    I hope this leads to Google Services being available for BBs.

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    Google services will never be able to be put on BB10 devices. It is not allowed and Google will never allow it.
    11-13-14 07:06 PM
  14. jhimmel's Avatar
    I hope this leads to Google Services being available for BBs.

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    Let me ask you - what in the world does this particular partnership with Samsung have to do with Google Play Services on BB10??? I don't see the connection.

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    11-13-14 07:12 PM
  15. Vorkosigan's Avatar
    Let me ask you - what in the world does this particular partnership with Samsung have to do with Google Play Services on BB10??? I don't see the connection.

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    I was scratching my head over that one as well.

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    11-13-14 07:15 PM
  16. iamvarunshah's Avatar
    Why BlackBerry are providing highly secure mobility to Samsung. BlackBerry is famous for that and should not provide such thing to any other smartphone brands. Really Surprising. =O

    But if this is the strategy to get finance, then it's good. =)

    So now we can say Samsung users don't worry, your phone has been secured by BlackBerry

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    11-13-14 07:18 PM
  17. m1a1mg's Avatar
    I can see that this is remarkable news for BB stockholders, but horrible news for BB consumer phone fans.
    11-13-14 10:30 PM
  18. labyrinth9's Avatar
    If this allows connected Samsung devices to be "secured by BlackBerry ", the key advantage to having a BlackBerry device, in my opinion would be its efficiency/productivity vs Samsung's android app ecosystem.

    Efficiency/productivity is precisely what keeps me with BlackBerry, but losing those who would easily trade device efficiency for app ecosystem as long as the security is there, I feel, is a step toward the death of BB10.

    This has just been my pessimism... It's just, ugh, losing my BlackBerry device feels like it would add so much lag to my day.

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    11-13-14 10:41 PM
  19. ALToronto's Avatar
    Let me ask you - what in the world does this particular partnership with Samsung have to do with Google Play Services on BB10??? I don't see the connection.

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    Sorry - total brain fart on my part. I associate Samsung and Google so strongly, it's almost like they're one and the same. Obviously, they are not and likely never will be.

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    11-14-14 01:31 AM
  20. BCITMike's Avatar
    Google services will never be able to be put on BB10 devices. It is not allowed and Google will never allow it.
    Never say never. Microsoft is open sourcing .NET. The game is getting your stuff on every platform. So at some point, Google could change their minds. But I'm not holding my breath.
    11-14-14 02:20 AM
  21. labyrinth9's Avatar
    Never say never. Microsoft is open sourcing .NET. The game is getting your stuff on every platform. So at some point, Google could change their minds. But I'm not holding my breath.
    I'm not sure why so many apps use Play Services in the first place... Is it to run the ads? How about just giving us a stable way to run the app without hacking the file or suffering the "this app requires Google Play Services.." nag popup?

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    11-14-14 05:26 AM
  22. tchocky77's Avatar
    How very Faustian.

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    I was thinking something very much like "talk about your deals with the devil!"

    Well. I reckon that's all she wrote for Blackberry hardware.



    Maybe.

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    11-14-14 05:57 AM
  23. anon1727506's Avatar
    I'm not sure why so many apps use Play Services in the first place... Is it to run the ads? How about just giving us a stable way to run the app without hacking the file or suffering the "this app requires Google Play Services.." nag popup?

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    The push now is to use Google Services to authorize apps, meaning that you paid for an app and/or downloaded it from an official source. In other words to "help" reduce all the piracy taking place in the Android ecosystem, and to help protect end users from malware... as at some point all these other Android Stores will dry up. Won't happen over night, but as more developers come on board and as existing apps that are still "open" get older and older, and as Android moves to newer and newer OS versions... at some point a few years from now, Android will end up being a nice little safe, secure and CLOSED ecosystem. At least that is the plan.....
    11-14-14 08:07 AM
  24. Bluenoser63's Avatar
    The push now is to use Google Services to authorize apps, meaning that you paid for an app and/or downloaded it from an official source. In other words to "help" reduce all the piracy taking place in the Android ecosystem, and to help protect end users from malware... as at some point all these other Android Stores will dry up. Won't happen over night, but as more developers come on board and as existing apps that are still "open" get older and older, and as Android moves to newer and newer OS versions... at some point a few years from now, Android will end up being a nice little safe, secure and CLOSED ecosystem. At least that is the plan.....
    No the plan is to use Google services so Google can get more information for ad targeting.

    ?Disconnect Mobile yanked again from Google Play - CNET

    It was pulled by Google because it interfered with it's adware. It's all about the ad revenue for Google, nothing else.
    11-14-14 09:09 AM
  25. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    BlackBerry is not a charity, and on a worldwide scale, they might be able to profit from BES12 for Android much more than selling a few million handsets (or not!).

    The BBRY's base offering of full end-to-end security starting from the hardware level all the way to the server is not invalidated by selling and profiting from Android, individual Android manufacturers' efforts (Knox) and partnerships (selling BES) to secure it.

    Why do people then almost invariably conclude that BB10 is going to disappear? It's part of the whole new BlackBerry ecosystem and enterprise offerings.

    :-)

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    Last edited by Prem WatsApp; 11-18-14 at 01:38 AM.
    11-14-14 03:36 PM
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