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  1. DecAway's Avatar
    I say it's instagram or candy crush announcement. Haha.

    Posted via CB10
    10-19-13 04:29 PM
  2. qwerty4ever's Avatar
    Not really. It's just not feasible to make huge manufacturing facilities in the US. I would go as far as to say it's impossible to make consumer electronics in the scale Apple requires in the US. Foxconn's Shenzhen facility alone employs over 500,000 people. The Shenzhen Foxconn facility is like an entire city into itself. Would it be possible to find 500,000 Americans willing to work in a single facility? Doubtful. You can do it in China because workers are willing to live in dormitories and none of them except the most senior management are allowed to drive to work. Can you imagine a couple hundred thousand cars driving to work at one facility? Can you imagine the parking space you'll need? The traffic nightmare?

    Aside from logistics, the work itself is mind numbing. Do this, get a cup of Rice Krispies. Then with a pair of tweezers, grab one Krispie and move it to another cup. Do that for 8 hours a day. Good luck trying to find 500,000 Americans to do that kind of work for minimum wage. Not only that, you need all of them in one geographical location. Chinese will do it though, because culturally that type of work is perfectly acceptable, and Foxconn pays significantly more than minimum wage.
    Automation removes the tedious tasks and allows people to be employed at higher knowledge jobs within the manufacturer.

    Posted via CB10 from the BlackBerry Z10
    10-19-13 04:38 PM
  3. qwerty4ever's Avatar
    I say it's instagram or candy crush announcement. Haha.

    Posted via CB10
    Candy Crush would likely be a huge hit with already addicted BlackBerry users.

    Posted via CB10 from the BlackBerry Z10
    10-19-13 04:40 PM
  4. Roo Zilla's Avatar
    Automation removes the tedious tasks and allows people to be employed at higher knowledge jobs within the manufacturer.

    Posted via CB10 from the BlackBerry Z10
    They use robots in China too, but not for making smartphones. The ROI just isn't there. The same would apply in the US since we're talking about smartphones, not cars. You could automate making t-shirts too, but nobody does because the ROI isn't there.

    Even if the ROI were there, wouldn't using robots defeat the initial premise of bringing jobs back to the US? Instead of bringing 500,000 jobs, you'd just be adding 10,000 and a bunch of robots. Would 10,000 jobs be worth spending 10's of billions of dollars to build a plant? How about we just give those 10,000 people a million dollars each and keep the jobs in China. Wouldn't that make everyone happier?
    10-20-13 11:39 AM
  5. Whyareallthegoodnamestaken's Avatar
    That seems a bit too high.

    I believe some analysts are expecting the number to be between 40 and 50 million & a mass exodus as soon as bbm goes cross platform.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
    Any decent analysis should conclude that "analysts" are full of it.

    Posted via CB10
    10-20-13 06:20 PM
  6. FFR's Avatar
    Any decent analysis should conclude that "analysts" are full of it.

    Posted via CB10
    Why?
    Regarding blackberry they have been spot on.


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    10-20-13 06:29 PM
  7. Whyareallthegoodnamestaken's Avatar
    Why?
    Regarding blackberry they have been spot on.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
    Rotflmao

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
    10-20-13 06:30 PM
  8. notfanboy's Avatar
    They use robots in China too, but not for making smartphones. The ROI just isn't there. The same would apply in the US since we're talking about smartphones, not cars. You could automate making t-shirts too, but nobody does because the ROI isn't there.

    Even if the ROI were there, wouldn't using robots defeat the initial premise of bringing jobs back to the US? Instead of bringing 500,000 jobs, you'd just be adding 10,000 and a bunch of robots. Would 10,000 jobs be worth spending 10's of billions of dollars to build a plant? How about we just give those 10,000 people a million dollars each and keep the jobs in China. Wouldn't that make everyone happier?
    Everyone would be happier except for the robots. Poor robots, to be denied their existence.
    10-20-13 07:07 PM
  9. ankush77's Avatar
    waiting,hope every thing comes out positive out of Z30 event
    10-21-13 02:21 AM
  10. ankush77's Avatar
    They have to commit substantial announcement so that bb could stabilize.
    10-21-13 02:23 AM
  11. needforbbx's Avatar
    I suspect BBM for all will launch. My understanding is that BBM is also loosing tracking in India - when compared to whatsapp.
    10-21-13 08:31 AM
  12. ukmight's Avatar
    Today is October 24th and where is the announcement about the major developments.
    10-24-13 05:55 AM
  13. Whyareallthegoodnamestaken's Avatar
    Today is October 24th and where is the announcement about the major developments.
    I was wondering that myself.

    Posted via CB10
    10-24-13 06:34 AM
  14. DecAway's Avatar
    We already knew Z30 was launching in India today. The speculation was on something else, which was originally thought to be BBM release. However, blackberry pulled a fast one on us and released it without warning. I keep waiting to see if anything new shows up today.

    Posted via CB10
    10-24-13 07:15 AM
  15. KenFletch's Avatar
    See the home page. Z30 release

    Posted via CB10
    10-24-13 07:18 AM
  16. anon(5799362)'s Avatar
    Launched in India today at ₹39,990 which is approx. $650. I think this is slightly better than expected, considering most flagship phones in India cost ₹40,000+. Xperia Z1 costs ₹42,000 ($700), SG S4 ₹ 41,000 ($685), HTC One dual sim ₹48,000 ($800).

    Will be interesting to see for how long does it stay at that price point though. I'm hoping to get a good deal on this Z30 soon, so that i can switch from my trusty old BB9380!
    10-24-13 07:33 AM
  17. lnichols's Avatar
    So the major news revealed at the Z30 launch event was the price of the Z30?! They really need to learn to manage the expectations of what they say in public.
    10-24-13 08:54 AM
  18. anon(5799362)'s Avatar
    Not sure what was expected. But, as always, their media strategy was predictable. Making it a non event!

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/bl...e-tag/1186748/

    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/blackberr...430211-11.html
    10-24-13 09:14 AM
  19. alan510's Avatar
    So the major news revealed at the Z30 launch event was the price of the Z30?! They really need to learn to manage the expectations of what they say in public.
    I don't understand your comment. From the article all BlackBerry said was that there was an event scheduled. All else in the article was speculation. Not the company's fault somebody floated unsubstantiated rumours. Trouble is the rumour then takes on a life of its own and becomes reality for some people. Then the company is blamed for not producing something that was never there to begin with. Crazy.

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    10-24-13 09:17 AM
  20. playbookster's Avatar
    Its probably nothing. Dont get your hopes up
    How smart you are playbookstee

    Posted from my Z10
    10-24-13 09:59 AM
  21. bbmtna's Avatar
    How smart you are playbookstee

    Posted from my Z10
    Lmao.

    I tip my hat to you sir

    Posted via CB10
    10-24-13 10:02 AM
  22. nico2004's Avatar
    So the major news revealed at the Z30 launch event was the price of the Z30?! They really need to learn to manage the expectations of what they say in public.
    Have to be something else is idiotic to think it would be the price, I'm more in sync with another person posting the bbm to other platform, but BB made it public a bit ealier.
    10-24-13 10:08 AM
  23. anon(5799362)'s Avatar
    BBM roll-out is 3 days old now. So, clearly can't highlight that as a potential announcement. I'll keep an eye for any sensible media coverage in morning papers tomorrow. Will let you guys know.

    But seriously, were you expecting a magic wand that turns BB's fortune around in an instant?!
    10-24-13 10:20 AM
  24. ukmight's Avatar
    BBM roll-out is 3 days old now. So, clearly can't highlight that as a potential announcement. I'll keep an eye for any sensible media coverage in morning papers tomorrow. Will let you guys know.

    But seriously, were you expecting a magic wand that turns BB's fortune around in an instant?!
    I was actually expecting BBM Channels out of beta today.

    Posted via CB10
    10-24-13 10:40 AM
  25. raino's Avatar
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the event was officially billed as the "Z30 launch event?"
    10-24-13 12:17 PM
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