03-07-14 11:25 PM
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  1. garnok's Avatar
    according to IDC report, Blackberry Q4 2013 smartphone shipment numbers to indonesia down significantly...BB now only take number 6th position (previous quarter BB is in 3rd position) and shipment volume down almost 50% (from 330.000 unit to 180.000 unit previous quarter)

    here is complete list Q4 2013 smartphone shipment numbers :
    1. Samsung ..... 1.137.664 unit
    2. Andromax.......581.000 unit
    3. Lenovo............311.000 unit
    4. Oppo...............254.407 unit
    5. Sony.................198.930 unit
    6. Blackberry........180.000 unit
    7. Evercross..........115.039 unit

    BlackBerry Melorot, Andromax Menjulang, Samsung Masih Jawara! | detikInet
    03-07-14 05:40 AM
  2. Warren Garrett's Avatar
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    03-07-14 05:41 AM
  3. cgk's Avatar
    And if you work on the basis that BB7 outsells BB10 3:1 - what's the actual demand for a z20?
    03-07-14 06:01 AM
  4. neteng1000's Avatar
    And if you work on the basis that BB7 outsells BB10 3:1 - what's the actual demand for a z20?
    You mean the Z3. Hoping that the Jakarta helps stop the bleeding

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    03-07-14 06:50 AM
  5. eldricho's Avatar
    You mean the Z3. Hoping that the Jakarta helps stop the bleeding

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    This
    Really hope it can make a difference

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    03-07-14 06:53 AM
  6. garnok's Avatar
    i think Z3 will help BB improve their position ....but not as they used to (number 1)...maybe up to number 4 or 5.

    they have to sell Z3 with competitive pricing, and huge marketing push.
    03-07-14 07:15 AM
  7. Munx's Avatar
    Telkom Indonesia is reporting a 31% increase is 'BlackBerry mobile Internet users' for 2013:

    http://www.telecompaper.com/news/tel...s-105--1000703

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    03-07-14 07:16 AM
  8. garnok's Avatar
    Telkom Indonesia is reporting a 31% increase is 'BlackBerry mobile Internet users' for 2013:

    Telkom grows FY profits 10.5% - Telecompaper

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    in indonesia it is easier to change carrier..Telkom gain a lot of subscribers from other carrier.. problem for BB is most of BB users using older model phone, not upgrading to a new one
    Last edited by garnok; 03-07-14 at 07:44 AM.
    03-07-14 07:22 AM
  9. Munx's Avatar
    Blackberry users still represent 25% of total Telkom users. Further, Telkom grew broadband users by 45% (all brands) and 31% (BlackBerry only) indicating BlackBerry is still a formidable presence.

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    03-07-14 07:41 AM
  10. garnok's Avatar
    Blackberry users still represent 25% of total Telkom users. Further, Telkom grew broadband users by 45% (all brands) and 31% (BlackBerry only) indicating BlackBerry is still a formidable presence.

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    yes BB is still presence, but their sales number are dropped significantly. most people including me only using older BB phone, not the new one

    you can see from telkom official press release (it is new press release, but i think they mistype the year number)....they never mention BB subscriber number , i think the site you quoting acidentaly mixed data from last year http://www.telkom.co.id/assets/uploa...o-investor.pdf
    03-07-14 07:43 AM
  11. the_igg's Avatar
    Well whatever it is, BlackBerry should not be disheartened and give up. They should release the Z3 and continue to be competitive and aggressive. They can still claw back marketshare.
    03-07-14 07:59 AM
  12. ljfong's Avatar
    It has been like that for quite a while. Most Indonesians still carry BB 7 device for only the cheap BIS data plan in addition to other devices they also carry. Once the old BB bites the dust they go with cheap Android as replacement. Easier than ever to do now as BBM is also available on Android. Indonesia was once the true BB nation, but no longer.

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    03-07-14 08:02 AM
  13. Munx's Avatar
    I was just reporting what I was reading in their press release. I hope the Z3 does well when released next month.

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    03-07-14 08:05 AM
  14. Skyforever's Avatar
    +1
    The Z3 will be a formidable phone at under $200. It should do well to bring back some of that BB love into Indonesia
    03-07-14 09:10 AM
  15. NaijaBerry's Avatar
    I believe and I'm hoping that the Z3 will make a huge difference. There are very cheap Android phones out there running Jelly Bean in the same price range or cheaper than the base legacy device, these figures are hardly surprising really. In 2014, BBOS is lame compared to the cheapest Andoid phones out there

    Tecno P5 Phone Online | Best price | Konga Nigeria vs Curve 6 9220 | White | Konga Nigeria
    03-07-14 09:55 AM
  16. playpen007's Avatar
    Well the Z3 based on the rumor of spec. of 720x1080, 5 mega pixel and 5 inches screen size, if it is true, it beats of its competitors who selling their devices for $200 and under. I believe with Video Screen Sharing capability, Z3 is way, way a head of competitions for the price under $200. A lot of consumer don't understand how Video Screen Sharing is good for. If you are a start up company, you don't need to build a fancy video conference, telepresence. Just a room with LCD projector hook up to BlackBerry BB10 phone that is all you need to do a Power Point Presentation. You can give a presentation from LA to your group in San Francisco by using screen sharing video.
    03-07-14 10:07 AM
  17. geraham's Avatar
    according to IDC report, Blackberry Q4 2013 smartphone shipment numbers to indonesia down significantly...BB now only take number 6th position (previous quarter BB is in 3rd position) and shipment volume down almost 50% (from 330.000 unit to 180.000 unit previous quarter)

    here is complete list Q4 2013 smartphone shipment numbers :
    1. Samsung ..... 1.137.664 unit
    2. Andromax.......581.000 unit
    3. Lenovo............311.000 unit
    4. Oppo...............254.407 unit
    5. Sony.................198.930 unit
    6. Blackberry........180.000 unit
    7. Evercross..........115.039 unit

    BlackBerry Melorot, Andromax Menjulang, Samsung Masih Jawara! | detikInet
    I do not quite believe on this report....
    03-07-14 10:12 AM
  18. PFman's Avatar
    I thought the screen was much lower resolution than that tho? I picked up A Chinese Android after Christmas with a true 5" 720p screen for $160 delivered to the UK. I was amazed at he quality and even more amazed that 3 months later it's still as good as new. The competition and quality at the bottom end is unbelievable at the moment.

    Sent from my XT1033 using Tapatalk
    03-07-14 10:13 AM
  19. garnok's Avatar
    I believe and I'm hoping that the Z3 will make a huge difference. There are very cheap Android phones out there running Jelly Bean in the same price range or cheaper than the base legacy device, these figures are hardly surprising really. In 2014, BBOS is lame compared to the cheapest Andoid phones out there

    Tecno P5 Phone Online | Best price | Konga Nigeria vs Curve 6 9220 | White | Konga Nigeria
    to be honest $100 android phone is a sh**ty device, when you pick android as your platform spend more...

    I do not quite believe on this report....
    BB biggest sales drop is when BBM becoming cross platform in indonesia, many people still carrying BB, but it is the older model.. tech in asia, financial times already release article before about how smartphone market in indonesia suddenly change and BB numbers in here keep dropping
    03-07-14 10:13 AM
  20. playpen007's Avatar
    When BBM Video Screen Sharing available for cross platform, the market will value BBM more plus BlackBerry will put ads in the Channel is the perfect solution. It is more accurate target than Google Adwords search matching keywords/phrases. Within a few years after the cross platform is completed, every corporations/company/advertising company/small business owners have got to have BBM Channel. Who knows within a few years, it might take a lot of business from Facebook and Google Adwords. Time will tells!
    03-07-14 11:01 AM
  21. TGR1's Avatar
    When BBM Video Screen Sharing available for cross platform, the market will value BBM more plus BlackBerry will put ads in the Channel is the perfect solution. It is more accurate target than Google Adwords search matching keywords/phrases. Within a few years after the cross platform is completed, every corporations/company/advertising company/small business owners have got to have BBM Channel. Who knows within a few years, it might take a lot of business from Facebook and Google Adwords. Time will tells!
    You honestly think Google is amateur enough to allow BBRY to beat them at their own gravy train?
    03-07-14 12:05 PM
  22. TGR1's Avatar
    BB biggest sales drop is when BBM becoming cross platform in indonesia,
    When BBM Video Screen Sharing available for cross platform, the market will value BBM more plus BlackBerry will put ads in the Channel is the perfect solution.
    If xBBM was the catalyst to drive adoption of other platforms it is unlikely that simply adding something like Channels to BBM will lure them back. As soon as Google or Facebook get a sniff of something working like that, they will implement it cross platform and the users will stay put.
    03-07-14 12:08 PM
  23. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    Screen-sharing already exists on Google Hangouts, and has for a while. But that's not the kind of feature that drives people to switch platforms anyway - the vast majority of people will never use it.
    03-07-14 02:32 PM
  24. cgk's Avatar
    I thought the screen was much lower resolution than that tho? I picked up A Chinese Android after Christmas with a true 5" 720p screen for $160 delivered to the UK. I was amazed at he quality and even more amazed that 3 months later it's still as good as new. The competition and quality at the bottom end is unbelievable at the moment.

    Sent from my XT1033 using Tapatalk
    Some of the Chinese devices are pretty good for the money, having said that I picked up a nexus 5 yesterday and it's a great device for the money.
    03-07-14 02:44 PM
  25. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    Well the Z3 based on the rumor of spec. of 720x1080, 5 mega pixel and 5 inches screen size, if it is true, it beats of its competitors who selling their devices for $200 and under.
    The Z3 will have a 5" screen with a 960x540 resolution.
    03-07-14 03:38 PM
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