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  1. spikesolie's Avatar
    Perhaps, however since BB10 is a new OS that was released with lots of problems, a lack of updates would be a valid concern.

    More importantly would be warranty repair or replacement.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    Well wouldn't it then be necessary to compare how many major updates BlackBerry has released to the industry average

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    07-22-14 10:51 PM
  2. cbbbtp's Avatar
    No that's actually valid in my opinion. I wouldn't want to buy a device from a company that might not be there in a couple years to support it. I know that isn't the case with BlackBerry right now, but I think discussing stock price is relevant. I don't think you can say anyone mentioning stock is attacking BlackBerry and making it personal.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    LOL, Apple was in worse condition than BlackBerry.. they literally had to borrow money and support from their competitors..
    07-22-14 11:13 PM
  3. cbbbtp's Avatar
    Some of us actually use more than one OS and don't find it necessary to wage war against the ones we don't use.

    Posted with my Q
    I use a Q10, HTC One and an iPad.. am I qualified to bash BlackBerry unnecessarily?
    07-22-14 11:17 PM
  4. cbbbtp's Avatar
    On the other hand, in this day and age when people invest in ecosystems, the overall long term health of a company might be important.
    How many times have you studied about a Developer before purchasing an App?
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    07-22-14 11:18 PM
  5. crazigee's Avatar
    LOL, Apple was in worse condition than BlackBerry.. they literally had to borrow money and support from their competitors..
    What does that have to do with this article mentioning BlackBerry stock price?

    It would have been valid for an article to mention that at the time. That includes their stock price.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    07-22-14 11:33 PM
  6. crazigee's Avatar
    Well wouldn't it then be necessary to compare how many major updates BlackBerry has released to the industry average

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    No, I don't think so.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    07-22-14 11:34 PM
  7. spikesolie's Avatar
    No, I don't think so.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    No because BlackBerry clearly pushing several updates out in a good time banner doesn't signal support. But stock market value which some people don't even understand how it works is

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    07-23-14 12:27 AM
  8. cbbbtp's Avatar
    What does that have to do with this article mentioning BlackBerry stock price?

    It would have been valid for an article to mention that at the time. That includes their stock price.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    You said you wouldn't buy a device from a sinking company.. so in that way, no one would have ever bought Apple stuff..

    What's the stock price of Blackphone company? What's the stock price of HTC? What's the stock price of LG? Motorola?

    Microsoft sacked 18000 employees.. you think people think about all this before buying a Nokia?
    07-23-14 12:35 AM
  9. cbbbtp's Avatar
    No because BlackBerry clearly pushing several updates out in a good time banner doesn't signal support. But stock market value which some people don't even understand how it works is

    Posted via CB10
    So I get it now.. BlackBerry has the best device in the market, but people are not buying because of sinking stock prices..

    That's funny because when the stock hits 0, my Q10 will shut down automatically..
    07-23-14 12:37 AM
  10. spikesolie's Avatar
    So I get it now.. BlackBerry has the best device in the market, but people are not buying because of sinking stock prices..

    That's funny because when the stock hits 0, my Q10 will shut down automatically..
    I was being sarcastic.
    <sarcasm>
    On another note though I'm a college student but I'm poor. I just invested 41 dollars into the stock market for shots and giggles. 15 in American Eagle at (14.84) and 26 on Intel at (25.74). Now Intel is like 34.90 a share while American Eagle is in 10.

    Next time I go shopping, I'm not buying American Eagle because their stock has gone down drastically. I'm definitely going to buy an Intel laptop now after their stock rose... <sarcasm/>

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    07-23-14 02:04 AM
  11. currentodysseys's Avatar
    Consider this:

    -you discover that your parents were siblings
    -someone hides your Viagra
    -your applikation for a membership in Scientology was rejected cause you are TOO blockheaded
    -beginning with the first grade of school you were harassed by schoolmates, the teachers and the janitor
    -dogs and cats disallow you to pet them
    -your girlfriend leaves you cause of your weird affinity to horses (which is named Steve and your were caught by giving Steve Jobs...)
    -you prefer "dirty talk" with Siri
    -Al Qaida fears YOU
    THAN you would also as desperate as the author of the article and would write something bizarre.... Be tolerant and show compassion...

    :-D
    LOL

    It is all mainly the janitor's fault... after all we all know that in every movie almost, the Janitor is the perverse ex con hiding weird things in their basement... and his janitor sure had this box of "trophies" that included a BlackBerry bold... just like the article (same logic), "all Janitors are serial killers" = *subjective* universal truth *phobia*... :P, but hey, since we are BlackBerry users we are the irrational human beings, that the writer knows too well, are not able to comprehend him... he is just special... no one could ever comprehend him.... :P



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    07-23-14 02:20 AM
  12. BruvvaPete's Avatar
    This got way out of hand. Now it's the janitor's fault. Why it gotta be him. He didn't hurt nobody. The cops set him up and the judge gave him an eight year bid then he was put in seg on account of that other thing. Ma! It wasn't me! I gots set up!

    @BruvvaPete :Channel: C0012176F. Live well
    07-23-14 07:04 AM
  13. currentodysseys's Avatar
    This got way out of hand. Now it's the janitor's fault. Why it gotta be him. He didn't hurt nobody. The cops set him up and the judge gave him an eight year bid then he was put in seg on account of that other thing. Ma! It wasn't me! I gots set up!

    @BruvvaPete :Channel: C0012176F. Live well
    Once blamed on the Janitor, it will always be the Janitor...

    ... we will defend on an oldie but timeless line, straight from Vinny's mouth: "Everything that guy just said is bull****. Thank you."

    (FTW...)


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    07-23-14 08:15 AM
  14. crazigee's Avatar
    You said you wouldn't buy a device from a sinking company.. so in that way, no one would have ever bought Apple stuff..

    What's the stock price of Blackphone company? What's the stock price of HTC? What's the stock price of LG? Motorola?

    Microsoft sacked 18000 employees.. you think people think about all this before buying a Nokia?
    No I didn't say that. I said it's a valid issue to consider and therefore valid to put stock price into the article.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    07-23-14 10:21 AM
  15. crazigee's Avatar
    So I get it now.. BlackBerry has the best device in the market, but people are not buying because of sinking stock prices..

    That's funny because when the stock hits 0, my Q10 will shut down automatically..
    See I think your problem is that you have decided BlackBerry is the best and are searching for a reason people aren't buying it. Maybe consider that BlackBerry isn't the best. At least not to everyone who isn't a die hard BlackBerry fan.

    BlackBerry is good, but they aren't the best. Sorry.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
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    07-23-14 10:24 AM
  16. crazigee's Avatar
    No because BlackBerry clearly pushing several updates out in a good time banner doesn't signal support. But stock market value which some people don't even understand how it works is

    Posted via CB10
    BlackBerry are pushing out great updates. Each one has made the OS better and better. The functionality has increased and it is almost as good as OS7.

    Let's be clear. What I'm saying is that because BB10 was a new OS with lots of issues updates are more important than they are on another OS. If BlackBerry went bankrupt the day after releasing the Z10 would I be satisfied with the way the OS was when I was first released. The answer for me is a resounding "No".

    Once again my point is not that BlackBerry is any worse than the competition. All I am saying is that discussing the stock price is relevant and doesn't constitute bashing BlackBerry. Support is something valid to consider and that has some relation to how the company is doing.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
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    07-23-14 10:30 AM
  17. cbbbtp's Avatar
    See I think your problem is that you have decided BlackBerry is the best and are searching for a reason people aren't buying it. Maybe consider that BlackBerry isn't the best. At least not to everyone who isn't a die hard BlackBerry fan.

    BlackBerry is good, but they aren't the best. Sorry.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    BlackBerry is the best for me.. I understand most people don't have any standards when it comes to security and privacy and for them any platform that handles Candycrush is best for them..
    07-23-14 11:08 AM
  18. TgeekB's Avatar
    BlackBerry is the best for me.. I understand most people don't have any standards when it comes to security and privacy and for them any platform that handles Candycrush is best for them..
    Yeah, it's all about candycrush. Or needs, likes, dislikes, etc. I believe the latter.

    Posted with my Q
    07-23-14 11:13 AM
  19. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    BlackBerry are pushing out great updates. Each one has made the OS better and better. The functionality has increased and it is almost as good as OS7.

    Let's be clear. What I'm saying is that because BB10 was a new OS with lots of issues updates are more important than they are on another OS. If BlackBerry went bankrupt the day after releasing the Z10 would I be satisfied with the way the OS was when I was first released. The answer for me is a resounding "No".

    Once again my point is not that BlackBerry is any worse than the competition. All I am saying is that discussing the stock price is relevant and doesn't constitute bashing BlackBerry. Support is something valid to consider and that has some relation to how the company is doing.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    Anyone who really wants to gets what you're saying. No need to explain.

    Some CB members have noted that their companies have initiated moves to other platforms because if wariness related to the EXACT reasons you stated. Even BBRY itself understands that the sale sign and stock price spooked customers.
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    07-23-14 11:19 AM
  20. cbbbtp's Avatar
    Anyone who really wants to gets what you're saying. No need to explain.

    Some CB members have noted that their companies have initiated moves to other platforms because if wariness related to the EXACT reasons you stated. Even BBRY itself understands that the sale sign and stock price spooked customers.
    I agree BBRY stock prices can affect decisions in enterprise partnership because of long-term licensing but to say the same is for consumers, that's foolish..

    95% of consumer market is unaware of Stock prices.. like I said, Microsoft sacking 18000 is not going to influence a consumer's purchase decision of a Nokia because of unawareness.

    It's just a passing statement 'BlackBerry is dead, let's get something else' because it sounds cooler than 'I've been using a BlackBerry since 5 years, I want to try something new now'
    07-23-14 11:24 AM
  21. FSeverino's Avatar
    When someone talks about stock price in a device review, that's when you know it's personal..
    Or in any article. 'BlackBerry Passport announced'... but f that, stock is low. stock is low, stock is low. 'BlackBerry stock goes up'... buy stock WAS higher. stock is low.

    Lol. O well

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    07-23-14 10:56 PM
  22. crazigee's Avatar
    Or in any article. 'BlackBerry Passport announced'... but f that, stock is low. stock is low, stock is low. 'BlackBerry stock goes up'... buy stock WAS higher. stock is low.

    Lol. O well

    Posted via CB10
    Haha. You're so right. Nobody should ever discuss stock prices.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    07-23-14 10:57 PM
  23. Infiniti14's Avatar
    BlackBerry are pushing out great updates. Each one has made the OS better and better. The functionality has increased and it is almost as good as OS7.

    Let's be clear. What I'm saying is that because BB10 was a new OS with lots of issues updates are more important than they are on another OS. If BlackBerry went bankrupt the day after releasing the Z10 would I be satisfied with the way the OS was when I was first released. The answer for me is a resounding "No".

    Once again my point is not that BlackBerry is any worse than the competition. All I am saying is that discussing the stock price is relevant and doesn't constitute bashing BlackBerry. Support is something valid to consider and that has some relation to how the company is doing.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    I think people object because the stock price in the article Is used inappropriately, and in a derogatory sense. The author shows a drastically lower stock price with the implication that BlackBerry is going out of business. In reality at just under $11/share BlackBerry has a market cap of $5,500,000,000...how many companies with a 5.5 billion dollar market cap are in danger of instantly disappearing and ceasing to support their current products?

    If the authors intent was to truly educate people he would not have merely listed the stock price collapse, but would have mentioned the underlying corporate valuation.

    To me it came across as more of an attempt to pander to people's desire to "be on the winning team".




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    07-23-14 11:01 PM
  24. Paintman321's Avatar
    LOL

    It is all mainly the janitor's fault... after all we all know that in every movie almost, the Janitor is the perverse ex con hiding weird things in their basement... and his janitor sure had this box of "trophies" that included a BlackBerry bold... just like the article (same logic), "all Janitors are serial killers" = *subjective* universal truth *phobia*... :P, but hey, since we are BlackBerry users we are the irrational human beings, that the writer knows too well, are not able to comprehend him... he is just special... no one could ever comprehend him.... :P



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    It's custodian, you don't have to be a **** about it.

    (what movie?)

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    07-23-14 11:06 PM
  25. spikesolie's Avatar
    BlackBerry are pushing out great updates. Each one has made the OS better and better. The functionality has increased and it is almost as good as OS7.

    Let's be clear. What I'm saying is that because BB10 was a new OS with lots of issues updates are more important than they are on another OS. If BlackBerry went bankrupt the day after releasing the Z10 would I be satisfied with the way the OS was when I was first released. The answer for me is a resounding "No".

    Once again my point is not that BlackBerry is any worse than the competition. All I am saying is that discussing the stock price is relevant and doesn't constitute bashing BlackBerry. Support is something valid to consider and that has some relation to how the company is doing.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    Once he included stock prices he'd have to explain in layman's term what exactly that means for product support and what are the chances a company like BlackBerry would actually fold up. For one we know BlackBerry will at least stay in software so that's the worse case scenario so far. Like I said most people don't even invest in the stock market directly ( people like my parents use CD and money markets through banks) but they don't deal with stock prices directly... so in an article discussing the phone.. just dropping the stock prices in a mockingly derogatory manner wasn't relevant

    Posted via CB10
    07-23-14 11:26 PM
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