- Nice job on sticking it to your customers that much harder by DOUBLING your ETF!! It was $175 and now it has DOUBLED to $350 for people who purchase an "advanced device" aka...smartphones!
I would've thought after the Sprint class-action lawsuit, these wireless providers would learn. FCC will be investigating I'm sure....02-04-10 05:00 PMLike 0 - It's in the news again today...felt like leaving a comment about it just in case "anybody else" beside YOU didn't know it was.
Thanks for pointing out the exact date though, why don't you go and get me the exact time now?02-04-10 05:20 PMLike 0 - All you got to do to get around that is buy an old junk phone off ebay or craigslist activate it and then drop your plan at $17502-04-10 05:35 PMLike 0
- Nice job on sticking it to your customers that much harder by DOUBLING your ETF!! It was $175 and now it has DOUBLED to $350 for people who purchase an "advanced device" aka...smartphones!
I would've thought after the Sprint class-action lawsuit, these wireless providers would learn. FCC will be investigating I'm sure....02-04-10 05:53 PMLike 0 - Your ETF is set by the device you purchased initially. It does not fluctuate based on what you have active on the account. If you know policy stating otherwise, please post it.02-04-10 05:57 PMLike 0
- Shouldn't be an issue to 99% of their customers.
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Source: Phone Scoop02-04-10 06:07 PMLike 0 -
Meanwhile its customers quite literally sit around all day here figuring out ways to stick it to" Big Red". "hai guize how do i get vzw to give me a droid I'm bored with my storm after 8 months please tell me how to multifru lol"
Double standards. Gotta love 'em!
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com02-04-10 06:24 PMLike 0 - The FCC sent letters out last month. The replies were either due the end of last month, or the end of this one. They, FCC, wants to know why they are being charged and if the customers know before the contract is signed about the ETFs. Also, they are deciding if it is legal for companies to have these fees for customers that want to switch phone companies.
Source: Phone Scoop02-04-10 06:24 PMLike 0 -
The Commission held in 2003 that �carriers may include provisions in their customer contracts on issues such as early termination and credit worthiness.�4 In that order, the Commission disallowed wireless carriers from restricting the number porting process, but also stated, �We do not sanction or encourage consumers to breach their contractual obligations. Nor do we prevent carriers from collecting any outstanding fees or charges from consumers pursuant to traditional contractual remedies.�5 That same year, in upholding the lawfulness of an ETF, the Commission noted "the history of Commission approval of early service termination provisions similar to the one at issue here, and the reasonable goals that they generally serve."6 It also stated, "The Commission has acknowledged that, because carriers must make investments and other commitments associated with a particular customer's expected level of service for an expected period of time, carriers will incur costs if those expectations are not met, and carriers must be allowed a reasonable means to recover such costs. In other words, the Commission has allowed carriers to use early service termination provisions to allocate the risk of investments associated with long term service arrangements with their customers."702-04-10 06:30 PMLike 0 - We are on two different pages.
FCC Task Force Tackles AT&T, Google, Sprint, T-Mobile, Verizon (Phone Scoop)02-04-10 06:40 PMLike 0 - We are on two different pages.
FCC Task Force Tackles AT&T, Google, Sprint, T-Mobile, Verizon (Phone Scoop)02-04-10 07:00 PMLike 0 - The FCC sent letters out last month. The replies were either due the end of last month, or the end of this one. They, FCC, wants to know why they are being charged and if the customers know before the contract is signed about the ETFs. Also, they are deciding if it is legal for companies to have these fees for customers that want to switch phone companies.
Source: Phone Scoop02-04-10 07:01 PMLike 0 -
Oh yeah, there is going to be some other consequence.02-04-10 07:24 PMLike 0 - [QUOTE=Jell-oMan;4618712]There is no ETF there though, that is an early upgrade.
Early upgrade? There is always a contract extension, even for early upgrade.
But getting rid of ETF's and contracts would allow to get a device anytime one comes out. Would also prohibit folks from buying new phones as often as they do, as it would be cost prohibitive.
Cool a new business. Finance your Blackberry @ 5% interest APR, based credit history. Will finance the device for two years. Could there be money made at this?02-04-10 07:36 PMLike 0 - Early upgrade? There is always a contract extension, even for early upgrade.
But getting rid of ETF's and contracts would allow to get a device anytime one comes out. Would also prohibit folks from buying new phones as often as they do, as it would be cost prohibitive.
Cool a new business. Finance your Blackberry @ 5% interest APR, based credit history. Will finance the device for two years. Could there be money made at this?02-04-10 07:43 PMLike 0 -
Hence if there is no ETF or contracts, then you get to pay retail or a price set by the carrier for the device and can leave anytime you like.02-04-10 07:51 PMLike 0 - Yes I am aware of this. If there is no contract to renew or sign up for, then you do not need ETF's period. ETF's are used for a couple things, discourage you breaking a contract and offset the cost of a device the carrier helps you get into by giving you a reduced price.
Hence if there is no ETF or contracts, then you get to pay retail or a price set by the carrier for the device and can leave anytime you like.
We'll see what happens.02-04-10 07:54 PMLike 0 - Agreed. The $350 sould not matter, unless you are going into a contract with the thought of leaving, then do not sign up. Yes there are circumstances beyond ones control that will dictate breaking a contract. Also the ETF's do decrase each month into a contract as well.02-04-10 08:06 PMLike 0
- Nice job on sticking it to your customers that much harder by DOUBLING your ETF!! It was $175 and now it has DOUBLED to $350 for people who purchase an "advanced device" aka...smartphones!
I would've thought after the Sprint class-action lawsuit, these wireless providers would learn. FCC will be investigating I'm sure....
Hit the "Stop Whining!" button.02-04-10 10:13 PMLike 0 -
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