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  1. Jamaa's Avatar
    According to one of their effin pricks' bold statement on twitter.

    Says they do not support any other devices except the Classic and will not be issuing a 10.3 update on the rest.

    https://twitter.com/askdes/status/610892801270611968

    Like I said in a previous thread, guess we're screwed.

    If any T-Mobile subscribers want something done, we need to be proactive and get @JohnChen and @JohnLegere involved.

    The few of us on twitter trying to highlight this concern to these CEOs need more help.

    Get involved.

     Q10
    raino likes this.
    08-09-15 02:15 PM
  2. Denise in Los Angeles's Avatar
    It won't work. TMo wants to sell you their Classic, so it would be counter-productive to update the OS for the phones that they have EOLed. They did the same with their BBOS phones also... never rarely gave updates.
    modifier and jmr1015 like this.
    08-09-15 02:26 PM
  3. conite's Avatar
    It would take about 30 minutes to update yourself - far less time than involving yourself in all this.

    Edit: As mentioned below, the downside is that you will lose WiFi calling if you take matters into your own hands.

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.2339
    Last edited by conite; 08-09-15 at 02:56 PM.
    08-09-15 02:30 PM
  4. Jamaa's Avatar
    It would take about 30 minutes to update yourself - far less time than involving yourself in all this.

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.2339
    I've decided to perform the update through sachesi and the software is already on my PC.

    It just annoys me at how passive they are about this.


     Q10
    08-09-15 02:33 PM
  5. crackberry_geek's Avatar
    It would take about 30 minutes to update yourself - far less time than involving yourself in all this.

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.2339
    Warning - update like this and you will lose WFC.

    Posted via CB10
    08-09-15 02:41 PM
  6. raino's Avatar
    I wonder how the brick wall is going to come crashing on BB and John Chen over this.
    08-09-15 02:44 PM
  7. Chris_R's Avatar
    WFC? I googled with no success, what is that?

    Classic from .2339 down to .858
    08-09-15 02:52 PM
  8. raino's Avatar
    WFC? I googled with no success, what is that?
    WiFi calling
    08-09-15 02:53 PM
  9. zocster's Avatar
    Moved to tmobile.
    08-09-15 05:06 PM
  10. raino's Avatar
    Someone (perhaps a Californian) should tweet Des and ask him about compliance with the California "Kill Switch" law. By choosing to not release an update for the Z10 or Q10, TMO may not in compliance with the law.
    00stryder, lactose and OkieBloke like this.
    08-09-15 05:31 PM
  11. Jamaa's Avatar
    Someone (perhaps a Californian) should tweet Des and ask him about compliance with the California "Kill Switch" law. By choosing to not release an update for the Z10 or Q10, TMO may not in compliance with the law.
    Seems he blocked me. I can no longer post or reply to that twitter thread.

     Q10
    08-09-15 05:53 PM
  12. Jamaa's Avatar
    Also, why did the mod move and hide this thread all the way here. It's more visible in the main forum where there is more traffic.

     Q10
    08-09-15 05:55 PM
  13. MobileMadness002's Avatar
    Also, why did the mod move and hide this thread all the way here. It's more visible in the main forum where there is more traffic.

     Q10
    I would imagine because it affects T-Mobile users and not everyone.
    jmr1015 and AnimalPak200 like this.
    08-09-15 06:01 PM
  14. raino's Avatar
    Also, why did the mod move and hide this thread all the way here. It's more visible in the main forum where there is more traffic.
    Can't speak to the exact reason, but I for one requested the move. I felt it's more a TMO issue than an OS10, and TMO users first and foremost deserve to know this.
    08-09-15 06:01 PM
  15. anon(7808135)'s Avatar
    Your Welcome -_- I'm the one who ask the questions around here but yes, it makes me angry to hear that! That's me if you didn't figure out by the first sentence.
    08-09-15 06:14 PM
  16. anon(7808135)'s Avatar
    I wonder how the brick wall is going to come crashing on BB and John Chen over this.
    Dear god don't say that! I want BlackBerry and T-Mobile to work these things out!
    08-09-15 06:17 PM
  17. Denise in Los Angeles's Avatar
    Someone (perhaps a Californian) should tweet Des and ask him about compliance with the California "Kill Switch" law. By choosing to not release an update for the Z10 or Q10, TMO may not in compliance with the law.
    The law only affects smartphones that are manufactured after July 1, 2015. Older phones are not required to get the kill switch.

    Posted via the Diva's beautiful Red Passport!
    jmr1015 likes this.
    08-09-15 06:22 PM
  18. anon(7808135)'s Avatar
    The law only affects smartphones that are manufactured after July 1, 2015. Older phones are not required to get the kill switch.

    Posted via the Diva's beautiful Red Passport!
    You mean January? I'm pretty sure it was the start of this year.

    Posted with my Z10 and future Classic
    08-09-15 06:43 PM
  19. raino's Avatar
    The law only affects smartphones that are manufactured after July 1, 2015. Older phones are not required to get the kill switch.
    Damn, that's your interpretation too, huh? :\ The way the law was worded I was thinking it had to be any phone that could stand to be updated (i.e. hardware could take the update, the OEM had to have put out an update, etc.)
    08-09-15 06:45 PM
  20. Denise in Los Angeles's Avatar
    You mean January? I'm pretty sure it was the start of this year.

    Posted with my Z10 and future Classic
    Nope, July.

    Posted via the Diva's beautiful Red Passport!
    08-09-15 07:48 PM
  21. Denise in Los Angeles's Avatar
    Damn, that's your interpretation too, huh? :\ The way the law was worded I was thinking it had to be any phone that could stand to be updated (i.e. hardware could take the update, the OEM had to have put out an update, etc.)
    Phones introduced prior to Jan. 1st would not be required to be given an update. Phones introduced after Jan.1st would be expected to be updated if reasonable efforts to provide an update are possible.

    Posted via the Diva's beautiful Red Passport!
    Last edited by Denise in Los Angeles; 08-09-15 at 09:26 PM.
    08-09-15 08:04 PM
  22. raino's Avatar
    Phones introduced prior to Jan. 1st would not be required to be given an update. Phones introduced after Jan.1st would be expected to be updated if reasonable efforts to provide an update are possible.
    Yeah, that makes sense. My interpretation was too optimistic, plus the fact that Verizon and AT&T released updates...

    Oh well. The Uncarrier marches on, making Carrier moves.
    modifier likes this.
    08-09-15 09:35 PM
  23. kvndoom's Avatar
    Dumb question, but is WFC a bar file that can be installed onto any phone, or part of a radio file, or is it integrated into the core OS?
    08-09-15 11:28 PM
  24. raino's Avatar
    Dumb question, but is WFC a bar file that can be installed onto any phone, or part of a radio file, or is it integrated into the core OS?
    Integrated into the core OS, but there are two requirements for it to work:

    1) An approved phone (Q10 -5, Z10 -3 and Classic -4...hopefully)
    2) A whitelisted OS

    If a TMO customer now updates Z10 or Q10 to 10.3.2 via autoloaders or something else, #2 will no longer be true and WFC breaks. TMO knows this, and I'm willing to bet Des Smith knows this too.

    Someone should call them out and ask them to whitelist 10.3.2.something that BB's pushing to unbranded phones/autoloaders are readily available for.
    08-09-15 11:35 PM
  25. modifier's Avatar
    Disappointing, yet not exactly surprising news given T-Mo's support of EOL devices. It'll be interesting to see if 10.3.2 works with WFC on the Q10 and Z10 if the Classic gets it as well.

    Speaking of which, has anyone asked this cat when the Classic will see an update with WFC?

    [CB10 / Q10]
    08-10-15 06:02 AM
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