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  1. world traveler and former ceo's Avatar
    I am pre ordering two for next week right now!!
    Charles Martin1 likes this.
    02-02-13 02:40 AM
  2. SEAWARRIOR's Avatar
    this could have an interesting effect,,, attack the states from the outside in...
    robtanz likes this.
    02-02-13 02:47 AM
  3. BBPandy's Avatar
    Does anyone know how many phones they can produce per month? I'm starting to think the delay to feb (and March in the US) has something to do with meeting obvious day-1 demand.
    Last I heard was that by Dec they had ramped up to 2 Million /mo
    ....Though if these sell-through rates continue they are going to have to drastically increase that
    02-02-13 02:51 AM
  4. Emu the Foo's Avatar
    This is great. I'm happy
    02-02-13 04:10 AM
  5. tiziano27's Avatar
    a : more than one <several pleas>
    b : more than two but fewer than many <moved several inches>
    c chiefly dialect : being a great many


    Sorry, could be 200,000 but probably no less.

    250,000 would represent about 0.4% of the population in the UK.
    250.000 represent 0.83% of all the smartphones in UK. When people buy a new phone they use it a lot, let's suppose a 2x of browsing. That web traffic is not showing up in the Statcounter data for UK (BlackBerry market share).
    1/29/2013 14.85%
    1/30/2013 14.94%
    1/31/2013 14.76%
    2/01/2013 14.85%
    mertin.m and Acumenight like this.
    02-02-13 06:20 AM
  6. MoolahMitch's Avatar
    250.000 represent 0.83% of all the smartphones in UK. When people buy a new phone they use it a lot, let's suppose a 2x of browsing. That web traffic is not showing up in the Statcounter data for UK (BlackBerry market share).
    1/29/2013 14.85%
    1/30/2013 14.94%
    1/31/2013 14.76%
    2/01/2013 14.85%
    Are they registering the new User Agent as I know there are issues where sites are not registering the BB10 user agent as BlackBerry phone and that it is being worked on.
    02-02-13 07:41 AM
  7. tiziano27's Avatar
    Are they registering the new User Agent as I know there are issues where sites are not registering the BB10 user agent as BlackBerry phone and that it is being worked on.
    idk, although there is no significant movement in the "unknown" category compared with previous days.
    The data doesn't look very accurate, but a movement of 200.000-300.000 units in two days should have an impact.
    If sales are that good RIM won't keep it in silence and the stock price either, so let see what happen after the weekend.
    02-02-13 08:55 AM
  8. MoolahMitch's Avatar
    idk, although there is no significant movement in the "unknown" category compared with previous days.
    The data doesn't look very accurate, but a movement of 200.000-300.000 units in two days should have an impact.
    If sales are that good RIM won't keep it in silence and the stock price either, so let see what happen after the weekend.
    BlackBerry would not necessarily put this information out before earnings, numbers like these are usually reported by media and blog outlets.
    02-02-13 09:00 AM
  9. THBW's Avatar
    Interesting and quite positive numbers. This will have a positive knock on effect with sales and future app development.

    Folks, when I look at the big picture, it appears to me that the US delay was planned from the start. A little bit of smart marketing by good old Frank. Get the ball moving in a market that will give you sales and the momentum builds. Silence the "DOA" and "too little, too late". Way to play it RIM opps BB.
    02-02-13 09:01 AM
  10. THBW's Avatar
    I think you have a signal to noise issue. I'm not sure why you would expect to pick up changes. Sales numbers are the best indicator not an abstract indirect measure.

    250.000 represent 0.83% of all the smartphones in UK. When people buy a new phone they use it a lot, let's suppose a 2x of browsing. That web traffic is not showing up in the Statcounter data for UK (BlackBerry market share).
    1/29/2013 14.85%
    1/30/2013 14.94%
    1/31/2013 14.76%
    2/01/2013 14.85%
    silversun10 and LudusSolers like this.
    02-02-13 09:08 AM
  11. neteng1000's Avatar
    Interesting and quite positive numbers. This will have a positive knock on effect with sales and future app development.

    Folks, when I look at the big picture, it appears to me that the US delay was planned from the start. A little bit of smart marketing by good old Frank. Get the ball moving in a market that will give you sales and the momentum builds. Silence the "DOA" and "too little, too late". Way to play it RIM opps BB.
    I was thinking the exact same thing. Start off in a 1st class market where they know they will sell like hotcakes. Move to Canada followed by the US
    02-02-13 09:08 AM
  12. ctuffy's Avatar
    Interesting and quite positive numbers. This will have a positive knock on effect with sales and future app development.

    Folks, when I look at the big picture, it appears to me that the US delay was planned from the start. A little bit of smart marketing by good old Frank. Get the ball moving in a market that will give you sales and the momentum builds. Silence the "DOA" and "too little, too late". Way to play it RIM opps BB.
    That is a good way to look at it. At the end of the day releasing late in the US may turn out to be a good thing.
    02-02-13 09:10 AM
  13. world traveler and former ceo's Avatar
    i agree ... and also provides RIM time to flush out bugs and incorporate some minor enhancements and get the apps number up while building good momentum!
    jakie55 likes this.
    02-02-13 09:51 AM
  14. jafrul's Avatar
    i am actually wondering... (i'm sorry if someone or a thread answered this) .

    to those who bought Z10, how much is the average price of the apps available now? is it the same like OS4-7 prices? around USD0.99-1.99/app?
    i read somewhere Angry Bird costs USD1. but currently is FREE.

    any idea on the prices?
    02-02-13 09:57 AM
  15. regnaston's Avatar
    i am actually wondering... (i'm sorry if someone or a thread answered this) .

    to those who bought Z10, how much is the average price of the apps available now? is it the same like OS4-7 prices? around USD0.99-1.99/app?
    i read somewhere Angry Bird costs USD1. but currently is FREE.

    any idea on the prices?

    I dont have one so I can not comment on the price other than to say that yes Angry Birds is free

    Angry Birds Star Wars is Free on BlackBerry 10 for a Limited Time - BerryReview
    02-02-13 10:11 AM
  16. shupor's Avatar
    in fairness the several hundred thousand comment is about sell in and not sell thru. just bein realistic people
    True but i'm still pretty optimistic the sales are high. Most of my friends in the UK keep reporting that most of the stores they have visited were sold out
    Dapper37 likes this.
    02-02-13 10:23 AM
  17. sapperuk's Avatar
    Well I have had to actively hunt for one (UK). All local stores (Carphone Warehouse, Phones4U) sold out. Eventually had to order online, and will not get it for a few days.
    :-(
    02-02-13 10:31 AM
  18. Tinomane's Avatar
    Well I have had to actively hunt for one (UK). All local stores (Carphone Warehouse, Phones4U) sold out. Eventually had to order online, and will not get it for a few days.
    :-(
    What were the stores saying? Did they say demand is crazy? Did they have a lot of units on hand initially?
    02-02-13 10:36 AM
  19. Bilaal's Avatar
    I just spoke to an o2 rep online. Apparently, the phone is for 379.99 on PAYG.
    It's also available for 20.50 on a 24 month contract from Phones4u (229 fee for phone) w/ 200mins, 750mb Data, Unlimited Texts and "two swappables"

    Not bad. Not bad at all.
    02-02-13 10:47 AM
  20. W Hoa's Avatar
    Spoke to t-mobile yesterday morning. The guy said they had exactly 100 left which given their call volume at that time, would sell out in 10 minutes
    Last I read BlackBerry was producing 2 million devices per month or 46 every minute assuming a 24/7 production rate. At just one telco they are allegedly selling at 10 per minute. I can see problems here
    02-02-13 10:49 AM
  21. Lehomer's Avatar
    Hot damn ! Am I glad I preordered now !! Yeeehaawwwwww
    Last I read BlackBerry was producing 2 million devices per month or 46 every minute assuming a 24/7 production rate. At just one telco they are allegedly selling at 10 per minute. I can see problems here
    02-02-13 10:54 AM
  22. Marauder2's Avatar
    Interesting and quite positive numbers. This will have a positive knock on effect with sales and future app development.

    Folks, when I look at the big picture, it appears to me that the US delay was planned from the start. A little bit of smart marketing by good old Frank. Get the ball moving in a market that will give you sales and the momentum builds. Silence the "DOA" and "too little, too late". Way to play it RIM opps BB.
    That's quite possible. When the device is released in the US there will [should] be more positivity online with people getting to use it, and with good sale numbers in the UK and Canada, some Americans may just see a reason to buy it.
    jedibeeftrix likes this.
    02-02-13 10:57 AM
  23. mathking606's Avatar
    If Misek who is half bear and bull is saying this then I am pretty sure he is right about hundreds of thousands. It seems realistic if Apple can sell 5 million in preorders in America.
    02-02-13 11:01 AM
  24. jedibeeftrix's Avatar
    excellent news, it is to the benefit of all smartphone users if BBOS10 does well.

    welcome back to the game BB.
    02-02-13 11:11 AM
  25. ctuffy's Avatar
    Last I read BlackBerry was producing 2 million devices per month or 46 every minute assuming a 24/7 production rate. At just one telco they are allegedly selling at 10 per minute. I can see problems here
    Why? Not questioning your theory, just wondering why, in your opinion, there could be problems.
    02-02-13 11:26 AM
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