Z10 selling out in the UK, Several hundred thousand sold
- i am actually wondering... (i'm sorry if someone or a thread answered this) .
to those who bought Z10, how much is the average price of the apps available now? is it the same like OS4-7 prices? around USD0.99-1.99/app?
i read somewhere Angry Bird costs USD1. but currently is FREE.
any idea on the prices?02-02-13 11:33 AMLike 0 - Also, don't forget that BlackBerry gave out hundreds of Z10 at the launch to influential people. The 1 month wait can help build momentum through those people's use and word of mouth.02-02-13 11:38 AMLike 0
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- Been to a Phones4U Kiosk inside a Currys store today. They'd sold out, originally had 4 Black and 4 White.
I also have been into a Vodafone and another P4U store last night both said that there had been a good amount of interest and they'd sold a few. I think 3 at the Vodafone store yesterday
Glad I ordered online and expecting delivery on Monday02-02-13 12:17 PMLike 0 - Just checked again. A bit awkward trying to get sim-free phones, they have them tucked in a corner . I want to reserve the phone though, I don't need it until Friday/Saturday when I'm back in the country. Guess I have to get it from Phones4u when I get back. CPW doesn't seem to offer the Z10 Sim-free02-02-13 12:29 PMLike 0
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- Interesting and quite positive numbers. This will have a positive knock on effect with sales and future app development.
Folks, when I look at the big picture, it appears to me that the US delay was planned from the start. A little bit of smart marketing by good old Frank. Get the ball moving in a market that will give you sales and the momentum builds. Silence the "DOA" and "too little, too late". Way to play it RIM opps BB.xiaohuaxing likes this.02-02-13 12:42 PMLike 1 - 250.000 represent 0.83% of all the smartphones in UK. When people buy a new phone they use it a lot, let's suppose a 2x of browsing. That web traffic is not showing up in the Statcounter data for UK (BlackBerry market share).
1/29/2013 14.85%
1/30/2013 14.94%
1/31/2013 14.76%
2/01/2013 14.85%02-02-13 12:50 PMLike 8 - just_lucRetired Moderator
AGAIN! Not trying to be negative.. I have all the confidence in the world that this was the right move for Blackberry.. but we can't pretend like no longer offering sign ups results in the cost of operation vanishing over night. (All that also leaves out the fact that they plan to continue selling BB7 devices in emerging markets for the next few years)00stryder and playboldbook like this.02-02-13 12:57 PMLike 2 - London Calling On The BB10 - Seeking Alpha . But it seems you have to register to see the full article. Whomever has access, mind copying-n-paste it here?
And about BB running out of revenue with lack of BIS, that's true but I'm sure they're not sitting around doing nothing about it. The investors will most definitely want to see what plan they have to resolve this issue in their next quarterly report (or something like that).xiaohuaxing likes this.02-02-13 01:04 PMLike 1 - 250.000 represent 0.83% of all the smartphones in UK. When people buy a new phone they use it a lot, let's suppose a 2x of browsing. That web traffic is not showing up in the Statcounter data for UK (BlackBerry market share).
1/29/2013 14.85%
1/30/2013 14.94%
1/31/2013 14.76%
2/01/2013 14.85%
For example, the iPhone 5 launch didn't result in any meaningful change in the UK. On launch day iOS share went up 0.11% vs. one week before, but two days later it was down 0.35%.
The BB numbers dropped significantly from 20.49% on Jan 24, down to 13.88% on Jan 27, but went back up to 18.19% on Feb 2. There's some massive swings there that seem pretty odd, and those 5-7% changes would easily obscure the impact of any new smartphone traffic.02-02-13 01:20 PMLike 0 - London Calling On The BB10
February 1, 2013 | 66 commentsby: Michael Collins | about: RIMM Disclosure: I am long RIMM. I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for it (other than from Seeking Alpha). I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article. (More...)
A lot has happened since my last and fortuitous Blackberry (a.k.a. Research in Motion) (RIMM) piece when the stock was sub $7 and I called a buy. The stock has run to $18 only to retreat on a mixture of:
� Sell the news
� Investor disappointment at US launch dates on both models
� Short hedge funds creaming the stock intraday to cause a little panic
The shares sit around $13 now and what are investors to do now?
{More here: http://seekingalpha.com/article/1150311}Last edited by Michelle Haag; 03-05-13 at 10:53 PM. Reason: notice from seeking alpha
02-02-13 01:49 PMLike 19 - i dont get why seeking alpha are looking at ebay in the US, the phone isnt available in the US so it stands to reason it would gain a premium from those that want to be first.
the channel checks paint a far more reasonable picture as they are a snapshot of a market where the device is available, and it does seem they are selling rather well.
another thing worth looking at is on both phones4u.co.uk and carphonewarehouse.co.uk (which ironically seeking alpha spelt wrong lol) the customer reviews are for the most part very positive. phones4u for example has 14 reviews, of which one was definitley there before available so really 13 lol. 12 would reccomend and the marks they all give are very high. now look at phones4u 9900 reviews.....all 7 of em. not a valid metric, but more a showing of consumer satisfaction.Dapper37 likes this.02-02-13 02:19 PMLike 1 - Not to put a damper on this thread.. as I personally don't beleive the loss of service revenue is a problem.. Blackberry is moving to the same profit on hardware/software model apple uses and does quite well with.. I think that's great and the right move so no issues there.. BUT I do need to correct the point above..while the revenue directly from service will dwindle over the next years (and again, i'm not saying they won't easily replace that revenue and more from other sources) the cost of maintaining the NOC will not decrease substantially.. in fact the cost of running BIS services will actually start to weigh on them in later years as they will be required to maintain it right to the bleeding end with less and less users taking advantage of it. You have to remember that for BB4,5,6,7, devices BIS isn't just a value added service.. those devices physically don't work without it, so they can't turn it off until the last user has made the migration.. and while most people will migrate over the next few years.. there are die hard resistant to change folks out there still holding on to Blackberry 8700's from 2005. That's an 8 years!! I remember when I was working for Rogers, we decided to finally cut the power to the old legacy network.. had probably been nearly 10 years since we had switched to GSM.. people came inn carrying 20 year old bag phones!! We tried to appease them by giving them new phones for free that fit in their pocket.. but these 90 year old war vets would look at you like the damn thing was from outer space.. eventually RIM will likely have to offer replacements to the remaining few thousand hold outs around the world if they really want to kill off BIS, but that's going to be YEARS and the cost of operation will more or less remain as it moves from full capacity to a handful of people using it.02-02-13 02:20 PMLike 0
- Originally Posted by W Hoa
Last I read BlackBerry was producing 2 million devices per month or 46 every minute assuming a 24/7 production rate. At just one telco they are allegedly selling at 10 per minute. I can see problems here
If it only takes one telco in the UK to sell 10% of all BB10 production then multiplying that by several telcos, well, not much will be left for the rest of us outside the UK. In other words, it's a good problem to have, but BlackBerry had better increase production and damn fast.02-02-13 02:59 PMLike 2 -
- It'll do fine cause it's so nice. Mate's got the iPhone4s and he was surprised as to how cool the BB looks and the screen is gorgeous! All good things come to those.... America you won't be disappointed!02-02-13 03:50 PMLike 3
- UK Z10's fetching high prices on eBay in the US. Might be another reason they are selling so well. Saw one just sold for 1200USD.02-02-13 04:15 PMLike 0
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U.S isn't fully needed...twstd.reality likes this.02-02-13 04:35 PMLike 1
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