1. anon(6038817)'s Avatar
    The Z10 and Q10 displays have higher pixel densities than an iPhone 6S.

    Posted from my  Q10 via CB10
    02-12-16 10:28 PM
  2. skstrials's Avatar
    The Z10 and Q10 displays have higher pixel densities than an iPhone 6S.

    Posted from my  Q10 via CB10
    Wow, I did not know this!

    Haha makes me appreciate these phones more anyway.

    I do not really need/want 1080p or 4k displays on a phone.

    I would rather take the extra battery.

    Posted via CB10
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    02-12-16 10:37 PM
  3. anon(9710735)'s Avatar
    Wow, I did not know this!

    Haha makes me appreciate these phones more anyway.

    I do not really need/want 1080p or 4k displays on a phone.

    I would rather take the extra battery.

    Posted via CB10
    Agreed. Replaceable batteries are underrated in today's smartphone usage!

    Posted via CB10
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    02-13-16 12:56 AM
  4. Thud Hardsmack's Avatar
    The Z10 and Q10 displays have higher pixel densities than an iPhone 6S.

    Posted from my  Q10 via CB10
    Wow, I did not know this!

    Haha makes me appreciate these phones more anyway.

    I do not really need/want 1080p or 4k displays on a phone.

    I would rather take the extra battery.

    Posted via CB10
    Agreed. Replaceable batteries are underrated in today's smartphone usage!

    Posted via CB10
    Slight correction on those pixel densities, iPhone 6s is higher.GSM Arena has the 6s plus info listed for 6s. Oops.
    • iPhone 6s display is 4.7" at 1080x1920 = 401ppi 1334x750 = 324ppi
    • Z10 is 4.2" at 768x1280 = 356ppi
    • Q10 is 3.1" at 720 x 720 = 329ppi


    Also there's larger displays, such as the LG G3 or G4 2K screens (5.5" at 1440x2560 = 538ppi) that still pack a removeable battery.

    Edited for incorrect info
    Last edited by Fret Madden; 02-13-16 at 10:49 AM.
    02-13-16 02:18 AM
  5. skstrials's Avatar
    Slight correction on those pixel densities, iPhone 6s is higher.
    • iPhone 6s display is 4.7" at 1080x1920 = 401ppi
    • Z10 is 4.2" at 768x1280 = 356ppi
    • Q10 is 3.1" at 720 x 720 = 329ppi


    Also there's larger displays, such as the LG G3 or G4 2K screens (5.5" at 1440x2560 = 538ppi) that still pack a removeable battery.
    I think he meant Iphone 6
    Why the Z10 and Q10 stand the test of time-img_20160213_054241.png

    I agree that there are other phones with removable batteries. But it is a rarity in the market.

    And I would say BlackBerry is the only one to fully utilize this feature by providing accessories such as a battery charger bundle. Without the battery charger bundle, having a removable battery would be a lot less useful.

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    02-13-16 07:46 AM
  6. anon(6038817)'s Avatar
    Slight correction on those pixel densities, iPhone 6s is higher.
    • iPhone 6s display is 4.7" at 1080x1920 = 401ppi
    • Z10 is 4.2" at 768x1280 = 356ppi
    • Q10 is 3.1" at 720 x 720 = 329ppi
    So PhoneArena is wrong?

    http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Apple-iPhone-6s_id9501

    And Apple?

    https://forums.crackberry.com/e?link...token=oPqWFkEZ

    Also there's larger displays, such as the LG G3 or G4 2K screens (5.5" at 1440x2560 = 538ppi) that still pack a removeable battery.
    What if you don't want a larger display?

    Can you get one of those in new or like-new condition for $150?


    Posted from my  Q10 via CB10
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    02-13-16 07:55 AM
  7. Tony Edwards10's Avatar
    So PhoneArena is wrong?

    http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Apple-iPhone-6s_id9501

    And Apple?

    https://forums.crackberry.com/e?link...token=g0FxQHya



    What if you don't want a larger display?

    Can you get one of those in new or like-new condition for $150?


    Posted from my  Q10 via CB10
    Got my Q10 for 130 Mint and Z10 for 110 mint on Ebay

    вιaсĸвεггч  Q❿ /Z❿
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    02-13-16 08:12 AM
  8. ronfc's Avatar
    I hope you guys realize that batteries degrade even when not in use. I don't know if the manufacturing of Z10 batteries is still on going, but imagine if it was discontinued in 2014 or 2015, it was sitting in the store shelf for more than a year. That in mind, I wouldn't expect a "newly-bought, brand-new" battery for an old phone model to be of the same performance of the original.
    TgeekB and web99 like this.
    02-13-16 08:27 AM
  9. bhoqeem's Avatar
    Would be nice if each of us, the Q10 lovers, show off our device. I'll start with mine...

    The Q10 in its lonesome:
    Why the Z10 and Q10 stand the test of time-img_20160213_221324.jpg

    The Q10 with a PlayBook:
    Why the Z10 and Q10 stand the test of time-img_20160213_221247.jpg

    Both are taken with an OG Passport.
    anon(6038817) and Q10Bold like this.
    02-13-16 09:18 AM
  10. anon(6038817)'s Avatar
    I hope you guys realize that batteries degrade even when not in use. I don't know if the manufacturing of Z10 batteries is still on going, but imagine if it was discontinued in 2014 or 2015, it was sitting in the store shelf for more than a year. That in mind, I wouldn't expect a "newly-bought, brand-new" battery for an old phone model to be of the same performance of the original.
    Indeed. Of course if battery longevity is a concern you can always get an extended battery. Or just have 2 or 3 OEM batteries on hand that you can easily swap.

    Can't do either of those things with a sealed battery.

    Posted from my  Q10 via CB10
    02-13-16 10:28 AM
  11. Thud Hardsmack's Avatar
    I think he meant Iphone 6
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    I agree that there are other phones with removable batteries. But it is a rarity in the market.

    And I would say BlackBerry is the only one to fully utilize this feature by providing accessories such as a battery charger bundle. Without the battery charger bundle, having a removable battery would be a lot less useful.

    Posted via CB10
    So PhoneArena is wrong?

    Apple iPhone 6s specs

    And Apple?

    https://forums.crackberry.com/e?link...token=syC5qwg7



    What if you don't want a larger display?

    Can you get one of those in new or like-new condition for $150?


    Posted from my  Q10 via CB10
    So incorrect info is incorrect. And you can get phones in new or like new condition with removable batteries, BlackBerry does not have a lock on that market.
    02-13-16 10:51 AM
  12. anon(6038817)'s Avatar
    So incorrect info is incorrect. And you can get phones in new or like new condition with removable batteries, BlackBerry does not have a lock on that market.
    I don't believe anyone made such a claim.

    Posted from my  Q10 via CB10
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    02-13-16 10:59 AM
  13. ronfc's Avatar
    Indeed. Of course if battery longevity is a concern you can always get an extended battery. Or just have 2 or 3 OEM batteries on hand that you can easily swap.

    Can't do either of those things with a sealed battery.
    The only problem with constantly swapping batteries is degrading the electrical contacts, thus making the device shut down when shaken or moved, can be remedied by a thin paper insert, though.
    02-13-16 11:05 AM
  14. Thud Hardsmack's Avatar
    I don't believe anyone made such a claim.

    Posted from my  Q10 via CB10
    This poster seems to be the skeptic. The answer is yes, if one looks.

    What if you don't want a larger display?

    Can you get one of those in new or like-new condition for $150?


    Posted from my  Q10 via CB10
    02-13-16 03:14 PM
  15. sorinv's Avatar
    I hope you guys realize that batteries degrade even when not in use. I don't know if the manufacturing of Z10 batteries is still on going, but imagine if it was discontinued in 2014 or 2015, it was sitting in the store shelf for more than a year. That in mind, I wouldn't expect a "newly-bought, brand-new" battery for an old phone model to be of the same performance of the original.
    This.
    02-13-16 07:02 PM
  16. anon(9607753)'s Avatar
    The only reason I left my Q10 for a Classic...and ultimately a Passport...screen was too dark and too small, and the processor too slow. Other than that I still prefer the form factor...although I still miss the toolbelt from the Classic! Z10 I always considered a wannabe iPhone (no offence to anyone here!) I still can't believe they released it before the Q10. Small all touch devices always seem to have battery issues...plus the fit and finish was kind of low end compared to a Q10, particularly the back.

    Posted via CB10
    02-13-16 07:22 PM
  17. ohaiguise's Avatar
    Two issues killed these early phones in the public's mind:

    1) Random resets (some of which were solved with the good old 'stick a bit of cardboard behind the battery door', but a lot weren't - faulty manufacturing)

    2) BlackBerry 10 operating system was not in a usable state until the 10.2 release, about two years after these phones were released


    Hence, I really think they should reissue these wonderful phones.
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    02-13-16 07:44 PM
  18. anon(9710735)'s Avatar
    Would be nice if each of us, the Q10 lovers, show off our device. I'll start with mine...

    The Q10 in its lonesome:
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    The Q10 with a PlayBook:
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    Both are taken with an OG Passport.
    Gorgeous!

    Posted via CB10
    02-13-16 11:01 PM
  19. bhoqeem's Avatar
    Gorgeous!

    Posted via CB10
    Thank you!
    02-13-16 11:05 PM
  20. ronfc's Avatar
    2) BlackBerry 10 operating system was not in a usable state until the 10.2 release, about two years after these phones were released
    I remember the time I got my Z10, it was still 10.0. And it wouldn't get past 6 hours of battery life, unless you turn OFF your data.
    02-14-16 12:43 AM
  21. sorinv's Avatar
    Two issues killed these early phones in the public's mind:

    1) Random resets (some of which were solved with the good old 'stick a bit of cardboard behind the battery door', but a lot weren't - faulty manufacturing)

    2) BlackBerry 10 operating system was not in a usable state until the 10.2 release, about two years after these phones were released


    Hence, I really think they should reissue these wonderful phones.
    I had absolutely none of those problems with my Z10 bought in February 2013. I got my Z30 in November 2013 and my passport in October 2014.
    I still think that Z10 was the best looking of the three, although I like my Passport. Best phone-laptop combo ever.
    The only problem with Z10 was its battery lifetime. However, that was no worse than the Iphone.
    I experienced no problems with 10.0. And 10.1. The improvements to 10.2 were minor, cosmetic.
    Z10 had all the main functionality of the Hub, flash browser, and most apps that I use today, from start.
    02-14-16 03:21 AM
  22. TgeekB's Avatar
    I had absolutely none of those problems with my Z10 bought in February 2013. I got my Z30 in November 2013 and my passport in October 2014.
    I still think that Z10 was the best looking of the three, although I like my Passport. Best phone-laptop combo ever.
    The only problem with Z10 was its battery lifetime. However, that was no worse than the Iphone.
    I experienced no problems with 10.0. And 10.1. The improvements to 10.2 were minor, cosmetic.
    Z10 had all the main functionality of the Hub, flash browser, and most apps that I use today, from start.
    10.0 and 10.1 were not ready for prime time. Look back at the threads here on Crackberry.
    JeepBB likes this.
    02-14-16 07:01 AM
  23. skstrials's Avatar
    So incorrect info is incorrect. And you can get phones in new or like new condition with removable batteries, BlackBerry does not have a lock on that market.
    I still do not understand why you said that. Lol

    Yes, you are correct!
    02-14-16 08:46 AM
  24. DamianWarS's Avatar
    Or you can do it in seconds with a Z10. Some people don't want to disassemble their phones to change the battery.

    Posted from my  Q10 via CB10
    Most people don't bother changing the battery every two years they just buy a new phone.

    Posted via CB10
    02-14-16 10:32 AM
  25. ronfc's Avatar
    Most people don't bother changing the battery every two years they just buy a new phone.
    That's why it's pretty much useless to purchase batteries as a future replacement for an aging phone because the battery will degrade whether you use it or not.
    02-14-16 10:49 AM
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