10-15-08 06:48 PM
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  1. kris123's Avatar
    im having the toughest time understanding why people are getting so mad that phones such as the blackberry storm do not have wifi. WHY does it matter? i dont understand at all, wouldnt wifi make it worse? with wifi doesnt that mean you can ONLY get internet when your in a place with an internet connection? which means you can almost never use it. with the regular internet provided by verizon you would get internet WHEREVER there is coverage, basically everywhere. am i missing something here? can someone please explain why wifi is better than the internet provided by the carrier???
    10-11-08 12:42 PM
  2. Reed McLay's Avatar
    Wifi is built into some models to support Unlicensed Mobile Access (UMA).

    When UMA is active, all of your voice and data will use the Wifi connection instead of the carrier network.

    It is most valuable when your home or office experiences poor reception to and from the carriers network.

    I live in a fringe reception area, at best, I can get one bar signal and often not even that. UMA gives me the quality of service I expect and have paid for.

    In some situations, it may be preferable to Browse the Internet without using the carrier network. Wifi allows fast, unlimited browsing, with no data useage charged to your carrier plan.

    10-11-08 12:49 PM
  3. avt123's Avatar
    im having the toughest time understanding why people are getting so mad that phones such as the blackberry storm do not have wifi. WHY does it matter? i dont understand at all, wouldnt wifi make it worse? with wifi doesnt that mean you can ONLY get internet when your in a place with an internet connection? which means you can almost never use it. with the regular internet provided by verizon you would get internet WHEREVER there is coverage, basically everywhere. am i missing something here? can someone please explain why wifi is better than the internet provided by the carrier???
    The point is you can have WiFi and carrier internet service. WiFi when you are in a hotspot, because it is faster than any available carriers speeds, and because it is great for people who do have unlimited data, or are on a data cap such as many BES users.

    Tell me, if your phone had WiFi, and you were in a hotspot, would you use the faster WiFi connection or your carriers connection? I would use the WiFi.
    10-11-08 12:51 PM
  4. avt123's Avatar
    Wifi is built into some models to support Unlicensed Mobile Access (UMA).

    When UMA is active, all of your voice and data will use the Wifi connection instead of the carrier network.

    It is most valuable when your home or office experiences poor reception to and from the carriers network.

    I live in a fringe reception area, at best, I can get one bar signal and often not even that. UMA gives me the quality of service I expect and have paid for.

    In some situations, it may be preferable to Browse the Internet without using the carrier network. Wifi allows fast, unlimited browsing, with no data useage charged to your carrier plan.

    This also.
    10-11-08 12:52 PM
  5. woodyou's Avatar
    also when you are on some international flights , the planes will have wifi. You can hook your phone up to the planes wifi and have ALL phone functions the whole flight.... thats a big deal
    10-11-08 01:57 PM
  6. dredayholiday's Avatar
    I have a Verizon Curve so I don't get WiFi, but having the option would be nice. I've never had a phone with WiFi so I can't say I miss it, it basically depends on what you like to do with your phone as far as I'm concerned. My internet through Verizon is really fast to my standards so I have no complaints, and the Verizon coverage is a lot better than other carriers in my experiences, so I find not having WiFi for me isn't a real issue. I remember when I had T-Mobile and ATT I couldn't drive through different cities here in TX with a reliable signal, not the case with Verizon.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    10-11-08 03:19 PM
  7. Duvi's Avatar
    Wifi is great.

    An application recently came out for the iPhone that lets me make/receive calls using my wifi connection, not for better service, but to save on minutes. This is another reason that I didn't see touched. I get 300 daytime minutes a week from one of the VoIP providers and also unlimited from another (within the U.S.). A lot of users can save on voice plans if they use VoIP/UMA for calling.

    Like mentioned before it is great for browsing as well.



    Duvi
    10-11-08 07:21 PM
  8. Daria's Avatar
    I use WiFi (on the Pearl 8120) to download large files, which you can't do over the network connection. And YouTube videos are MUCH easier to watch over a WiFi connection.
    Count me in as being disappointed that the Storm won't have WiFi
    (But maybe it will in a future release?)
    10-15-08 04:12 AM
  9. TvTechGuru's Avatar
    I would rather have a device like the Nokia N810 Internet Tablet for Wi-Fi hotspots. I would love to see more variations of Internet Tablets made. I like the idea of them, since they are in between laptops and UMPC's. UMPC's are also an under-rated device, more of them should be made.
    10-15-08 04:52 AM
  10. johnmorganjr1's Avatar
    Ok so I have wi fi built into my phone. Can I just connect to my wireless router that my dsl is plugged into??
    10-15-08 08:13 AM
  11. Heresy's Avatar
    Yes you can hook right to your router. Read this http://forums.crackberry.com/f3/comp...ifi-how-47229/
    bmcclure937 has a great guide there for you.
    10-15-08 08:38 AM
  12. JM12345's Avatar
    Wifi is great with a phone, enables you to have access to faster speeds than a regular 3G or Edge.
    10-15-08 09:34 AM
  13. lennyj17's Avatar
    WIFI really isnt needed when you live within a robust 3G/EVDO area.....

    Sprint has EVDO everywhere I seem to travel, so having WIFI is not an issue for me.
    10-15-08 09:42 AM
  14. Mr Bigs's Avatar
    WIFI really isnt needed when you live within a robust 3G/EVDO area.....

    Sprint has EVDO everywhere I seem to travel, so having WIFI is not an issue for me.
    People keep saying it isn't needed,yes it is because even though Sprint has the fastest wireless access it still isn't faster than WiFi. Alsi I live in a very strong 3g,EVDO area and would still like the option of using WiFi.
    10-15-08 10:02 AM
  15. Atrus's Avatar
    The reason I would want it is, for instance, my mother-in-law's vacation condo. It's out in the boonies and reception is extremely spotty - one weekend up there it's flawless, the next weekend you can't get anything. I'd like to be able to jump on wireless while up there to check e-mail or mapquest or anything and not have to bring a laptop with me every time.
    10-15-08 10:14 AM
  16. lennyj17's Avatar
    People keep saying it isn't needed,yes it is because even though Sprint has the fastest wireless access it still isn't faster than WiFi. Alsi I live in a very strong 3g,EVDO area and would still like the option of using WiFi.

    Even if you were given the option of Wifi on Sprint/Verizon, its not going to be faster then EVDO, because the phones processor can only move so fast....

    EVDO on an Aircard is lighting times faster then on a Phone, because of a PC better processor....

    So your not going to get better then what EVDO currently gives you, sorry its the truth!
    10-15-08 10:19 AM
  17. Queen4111's Avatar
    Wifi is great.

    An application recently came out for the iPhone that lets me make/receive calls using my wifi connection, not for better service, but to save on minutes. This is another reason that I didn't see touched. I get 300 daytime minutes a week from one of the VoIP providers and also unlimited from another (within the U.S.). A lot of users can save on voice plans if they use VoIP/UMA for calling.

    Like mentioned before it is great for browsing as well.
    Duvi
    How is that possible?
    Question...Does AT&T support UMA?
    10-15-08 10:31 AM
  18. mab4285's Avatar
    How is that possible?
    Question...Does AT&T support UMA?
    AT&T does not support UMA at this time. I'm not sure if there are plans for it in the future.
    10-15-08 10:39 AM
  19. Queen4111's Avatar
    So how can Jayden use VoIP/UMA on his iphone on ATT?
    10-15-08 10:41 AM
  20. mab4285's Avatar
    So how can Jayden use VoIP/UMA on his iphone on ATT?
    VoIP and UMA are two totally, well, maybe semi, separate things. There's an application that works a bit like Skype (from what I've seen...I only have an iPod touch). It doesn't work the same way as TMo's HotSpot at Home Service.
    10-15-08 10:53 AM
  21. wallyjayrosenberger's Avatar
    Great info here. I had this exact same question so a BIG thank you to all for providing an answer.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    10-15-08 10:59 AM
  22. Mr Bigs's Avatar
    Even if you were given the option of Wifi on Sprint/Verizon, its not going to be faster then EVDO, because the phones processor can only move so fast....

    EVDO on an Aircard is lighting times faster then on a Phone, because of a PC better processor....

    So your not going to get better then what EVDO currently gives you, sorry its the truth!
    Are you talking from experience or hearsay because my experience is different. EVDO on a phone is not faster than WiFi in my experience. I also have a Sprint EVDO aircard for my notebook and it isn't faster than WiFi either. Speed really isn't my issue it is the fact that you cane be in a location where cellular signal is weak like a sub basement where WiFi is available.
    10-15-08 12:33 PM
  23. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    Are you talking from experience or hearsay because my experience is different. EVDO on a phone is not faster than WiFi in my experience. I also have a Sprint EVDO aircard for my notebook and it isn't faster than WiFi either. Speed really isn't my issue it is the fact that you cane be in a location where cellular signal is weak like a sub basement where WiFi is available.
    They're talking from their *** lol. No carrier's connection is faster than Wifi. EVDO/3G at it's strongest connection is not faster than WiFi. This is one of the main reasons that Wifi take default over all other connections, it's just simply better. Our course, if you're satisfied with your speed, that is great, but people just want to have the option to do both. I'm running a Bold with 3G/WIFI/EDGE and its great to have these options. I can switch to edge when I need to conserve energy, 3G when I need to browse but don't have WiFi available and WiFi (when it's available) to browse at faster speeds.
    10-15-08 01:11 PM
  24. dandrumma's Avatar
    WiFi freakin rocks, fastest speeds. The Tmobile @home UMA service with WiFi is amazing, simultaneous voice/data over WiFi is awesome, could never live without it once you use it.
    10-15-08 01:18 PM
  25. lennyj17's Avatar
    Read it again Geinuses......

    WIFI is not going to be any Faster then EVDO....BECAUSE OF THE PHONE PROCESSING POWER, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT TECHNOLOGY IS FASTER....

    WIFI ON A PHONE IS GOING TO GIVE YOU THE SAME SPEEDS AS EVDO BECAUSE OF THE PHONE'S PROCESSING POWER.....

    UNTIL A PHONE IS RELEASED THAT CAN HANDLE HIGHER SPEEDS THIS IS WHAT YOU'VE GOT.

    Hope that makes it simpler. MY GOD!
    10-15-08 01:20 PM
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