07-08-16 01:06 AM
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  1. ksloth's Avatar
    It looks like a cute little pair of phone-pants 😃 In the end though, it's all about what works for you.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
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    07-03-16 06:43 PM
  2. Maxxxpower's Avatar
    Why is there no other Android phone with a keyboard?
    -Because most people (99.98%) prefer screen real estate to a PKB.
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    07-04-16 12:48 AM
  3. BergerKing's Avatar
    Why is there no other Android phone with a keyboard - part 2-motorola-pro-.jpg
    Motorola XPRT- flopped.

    Why is there no other Android phone with a keyboard - part 2-motorola-droid-3-open-keyboard.jpg
    Motorola Droid 3-Meh.


    Why is there no other Android phone with a keyboard - part 2-35043597_ovr.png
    Motorola Admiral-flopped.

    I've had friends that had all 3. There have been others, but the facts are in, keyboard phones are becoming an anachronism in the mainstream of things. They're generally smaller than a niche; more like a curiosity.
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    07-04-16 01:06 AM
  4. Sairos's Avatar
    Motorola XPRT- flopped.
    Motorola Droid 3-Meh.
    Motorola Admiral-flopped.

    I've had friends that had all 3. There have been others, but the facts are in, keyboard phones are becoming an anachronism in the mainstream of things. They're generally smaller than a niche; more like a curiosity.
    You should have sent them this post before they released the Priv, might have convinced them not to put a PKB and a Slider.. At least the ridiculous $700 price tag would've been knocked down considerably.
    07-04-16 01:13 AM
  5. BergerKing's Avatar
    Somewhere along the line I mentioned, more than once, that there have been no truly successful keyboard Android phones. The Droid series had some success, but mostly the keyboards were just a PITA. Samsung had the S2 Epic, and it was an unreliable sliding nightmare for the most part. My youngest got a brand new old stock S2 to replace an old HTC via insurance, it lasted him 4 days before it failed.

    BlackBerry, again, was on the wrong side of history by trying to retro keyboards onto phones that no longer really need them. When the world started moving away from keyboard phones, BB finally got to make some pure touchscreen phones, and then backed away, and started trying to lure people back to them. You sacrifice screen space for keys, you've just alienated the largest market of potential buyers, who are fully into virtual typing, now.

    Plus, the other failure was using outdated specs. A habit they never overcame. Always a generation or more behind the curve, no pun intended. You become a leader by defining the curve, not by following it.

    The only way you make it behind the curve is if you have a taste for someone else's dust.
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    07-04-16 01:29 AM
  6. cribble2k's Avatar
    The next Nexus devices will be made by HTC, keep an eye for them.. HTC does a great job in building premium phones.. VKB is not so bad, it gets the job done.. It will never be as accurate as a PKB though.. and the accuracy is much less when you're not looking at it.. Something I keep insist on doing xD.. I can't shake the fact that I used to type without looking, I do that on a VKP and the results are disastrous.. Its a BlackBerry habit that doesn't go away xD

    Oh by the way, regarding the fingerprint.. For knowledge's sake, security-wise a pin is better than a fingerprint.. They just do fingerprint as a gimmick.. A nice feature to have.. But its not really better in terms of security..
    Lol.

    When I was a BlackBerry user, you people tried to convince me apps were gimmicks, and not needed.

    Then I upgraded to Android, and realized how great apps were.

    Then as fingerprint readers were becoming more common (something else not found on BlackBerry devices), this site tried to convince me no one would ever need such a thing on a phone.

    Now I have a phone with a fingerprint reader, and I realize how secure and convenient it is.

    I wonder how far behind humanity would be (technically) if we moved at the speed of 'BlackBerry'

    Nexus 6p 64gb
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    07-04-16 01:29 AM
  7. BergerKing's Avatar
    Lol.

    When I was a BlackBerry user, you people tried to convince me apps were gimmicks, and not needed.

    Then I upgraded to Android, and realized how great apps were.

    Then as fingerprint readers were becoming more common (something else not found on BlackBerry devices), this site tried to convince me no one would ever need such a thing on a phone.

    Now I have a phone with a fingerprint reader, and I realize how secure and convenient it is.

    I wonder how far behind humanity would be (technically) if we moved at the speed of 'BlackBerry'

    Nexus 6p 64gb
    I concur about the fingerprint reader, most assuredly. It's backed up by a pass code, and several apps now use it for verification, as well, like the Play Store, PayPal, Android Pay, and others.
    07-04-16 02:14 AM
  8. Sairos's Avatar
    Lol.

    When I was a BlackBerry user, you people tried to convince me apps were gimmicks, and not needed.

    Then I upgraded to Android, and realized how great apps were.

    Then as fingerprint readers were becoming more common (something else not found on BlackBerry devices), this site tried to convince me no one would ever need such a thing on a phone.

    Now I have a phone with a fingerprint reader, and I realize how secure and convenient it is.

    I wonder how far behind humanity would be (technically) if we moved at the speed of 'BlackBerry'

    Nexus 6p 64gb
    You People? Dude I've been here in the forums less than a month.. don't generalize because I don't like this BS.. When you quote me, you're quoting me, Not "People"..

    I'm an Android user since Jan/2013.. I don't own a BB10 device or a Priv.. I didn't tell you Apps were gimmicks, whoever told you so is in need of serious help.. And if you believed such stuff then I don't know what to tell you xD.

    Now to the fingerprint, Its convenient alright, no one argued otherwise.. is it secure? Well yeah it is.. Is it more secure than a Pin? No, I don't think so.. And that was my point.. That they market it as something important and more secure, when its not.. I wasn't defending the fact that the Priv doesn't have one, haha I couldn't care less.. I was sharing info & knowledge..

    I've no experience or knowledge about security but I shared info based on someone who had experience and knowledge.. What Mobile Magazine (Dec/15) .. They did an interview with a white hat hacker who has a decade of experience in information security and runs his own company.. They asked him a lot of questions about security in phones, he had this to say:

    Why is there no other Android phone with a keyboard - part 2-untitled00.png


    More Links to support this claim:
    http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2016/05...ate-data/#gref
    http://lifehacker.com/are-fingerprin...ure-1385306776
    http://android.stackexchange.com/que...ck-on-nexus-5x
    07-04-16 02:57 AM
  9. MC_A_DOT's Avatar
    Best Android smartphone is currently the LG V10 IMO.
    Fixed
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    07-04-16 08:03 AM
  10. Mecca EL's Avatar
    V10 is wack!!!
    07-04-16 04:12 PM
  11. Mecca EL's Avatar
    Somewhere along the line I mentioned, more than once, that there have been no truly successful keyboard Android phones. The Droid series had some success, but mostly the keyboards were just a PITA. Samsung had the S2 Epic, and it was an unreliable sliding nightmare for the most part. My youngest got a brand new old stock S2 to replace an old HTC via insurance, it lasted him 4 days before it failed.

    BlackBerry, again, was on the wrong side of history by trying to retro keyboards onto phones that no longer really need them. When the world started moving away from keyboard phones, BB finally got to make some pure touchscreen phones, and then backed away, and started trying to lure people back to them. You sacrifice screen space for keys, you've just alienated the largest market of potential buyers, who are fully into virtual typing, now.

    Plus, the other failure was using outdated specs. A habit they never overcame. Always a generation or more behind the curve, no pun intended. You become a leader by defining the curve, not by following it.

    The only way you make it behind the curve is if you have a taste for someone else's dust.
    I was vehemently against vkb's, because I'd lose the ability to braille type. Then the stupid keys started popping off of my 9810 - thanks to BlackBerry taking for freaking ever to push BBX to market. So I resorted to using the vkb on the 9810. Wasn't that bad. But when the Z10 made it to AT&T, and I could flick faster than I could type on a pkb, I was hooked. So BB improved the keyboard area, by taking the virtual a step further. But I can't knock doubling back to the pkb of the PassPort and Priv, given that they're touch sensitive. Nothing else out there like it...until apple steals it and claims they came up with it first.
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    07-04-16 04:24 PM
  12. Avenzuno's Avatar
    No disrespect, but it's the software, stupid. What all these failed devices have in common is Android (not "Droid", a trademark apparently licensed by Motorola from Lucasfilm for the former's Android devices). BlackBerry has become successful for those PKB lovers out there because whether the OS was OS 7 or BB10, the operating system and core apps were outstanding. I know it's been suggested in other threads, but if BlackBerry really wants to make a splash in the Android market, it should really find a way to convince its customers that the Mercury's superior keyboard, which hopefully would be exactly like the Classic's or Bold 9900, offers the best Android experience out there. As for Neon and Argon, they offer VKB lovers a choice to get the finest VKB anywhere. As for the Priv, it offers the best of both worlds. Just focus marketing on the hub and keyboard, BlackBerry!
    07-05-16 08:12 AM
  13. fschmeck's Avatar
    I've never seen this PKB attachment. Seems interesting, but isn't it an extra piece to carry around? I would much prefer a flip style case where the KB is on the other half. Otherwise, BB's slider format seems like a better solution to me.

    Posted via CB10
    07-05-16 10:47 AM
  14. 3Dee's Avatar
    I've never seen this PKB attachment. Seems interesting, but isn't it an extra piece to carry around? I would much prefer a flip style case where the KB is on the other half. Otherwise, BB's slider format seems like a better solution to me.

    Posted via CB10
    It is an extra piece to carry, but you can attach it to the back when you're not using it. I mostly keep it attached to the front, but am waiting for the 'where the heck did I put my keyboard' moment when I take it off and forget where I put it down!

    I agree that a slider is more elegant, but as a direct attachment the keyboard is larger - I'd say it's around Q10 size (and feel).
    07-06-16 12:21 AM
  15. Jerale's Avatar
    How is this Blackberry related? Would this be more suited in Android Central?
    It's still BlackBerry related since, you know, the BlackBerry PRIV and future phones will have Android on them.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
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    07-08-16 01:02 AM
  16. Jerale's Avatar
    I'm not one to like Samsung phones, but this is a decent attempt for them. Priv pkb is WAAAAAY better though, in every way. It being touch sensitive alone, makes it mouse like. Slip on's can't compare. BB should market a separate pkb hardware attachment. They'd turn a profit there for sure...but they won't make one.
    They could at least endorse Ryan Seacrest BlackBerryish keyboard attachment product he tried to sale for iOS devices.

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    07-08-16 01:06 AM
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