Why does OS7 continue to outsell BB10?
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Posted via CB10kevinnugent likes this.12-20-13 02:54 PMLike 1 - Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesWhy would people want to embrace something new just for the sake of being new?bobauckland likes this.12-20-13 02:56 PMLike 1
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Do you have numbers though? Or did you pull them out of your hat?
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Z10STL100-3/10.2.0.1803MarsupilamiX likes this.12-20-13 03:13 PMLike 1 -
And since having my Z10, my monthly bills have become smaller, than in the timeframe when I used my 9810, even though I consume way more data than before.
Nuff said.
Finally that time has come.
Posted via CB1012-20-13 03:15 PMLike 0 - Os7 does what they require.
1) Its a better PHONE than anything else available. Note I say phone not media platform.
2) BIS saves people money who travel between borders.
3) They bought an android or I phone and thier kids nagged the hell out of them all day to play on the damned thing. Look Mummys phone cant play games.
4) Their son/daughter bought it for them to keep in touch.
5) Their mum/dad bought it for them to keep in touch, they know bbm works!
6) its for work on call purposes it needs to answer calls and perform email function and nothing more.
7) bb10 q phones are out of their budget.
8) they are self employed, do dirty work and keep their phone inside a plastic cover so touch phone does not work well for them.
9) native cloud backup inc password keeper
Do nokia not still sell more symbian phones than windows phones.12-20-13 03:16 PMLike 0 -
Go read the quarterly reports, and find them yourself.
Pdf files are available for download and BlackBerry includes a list of the breakdown of the sale numbers of the different regions in this world.
Emerging markets make out the biggest % of the regions where devices are being sold...
If you don't believe me, the quarterly reports are free to download for everyone interested in them.
I am sure you'll find them if you want.
Posted via CB10Dave Bourque and Omnitech like this.12-20-13 03:28 PMLike 2 - I wasn't going to chase this information since it's available. But thanks marsu!
Z10STL100-3/10.2.0.180312-20-13 03:49 PMLike 0 - OmnitechDragon Slayer
Not in the developing world, most of which don't have or want these stupid carrier subsidy shackles that completely distorts the perceived value of the hardware.
In India you probably pay $600 for a Z10 (and own it outright), but your cell service is $12 a month. Maybe less.
It's sort of obvious, really.
I don't think I have seen a legacy BBOS device in a US retail store since BB10 launched here in March.
For that matter, it's a significant challenge to find ANY Blackberry smartphone in a retail store these days.
Which is a key reason why it didn't surprise me at all when I saw their BB10 sales numbers had fallen to almost nothing the last quarter.
The product is almost invisible here.
Yep.MarsupilamiX and kbz1960 like this.12-20-13 04:05 PMLike 2 -
- Not in the developing world, most of which don't have or want these stupid carrier subsidy shackles that completely distorts the perceived value of the hardware.
In India you probably pay $600 for a Z10 (and own it outright), but your cell service is $12 a month.
It's sort of obvious, really.
I don't think I have seen a legacy BBOS device in a US retail store since BB10 launched here in March.
For that matter, it's a significant challenge to find ANY Blackberry smartphone in a retail store these days.
Which is a key reason why it didn't surprise me at all when I saw their BB10 sales numbers had fallen to almost nothing the last quarter.
The product is almost invisible here.
Yep.
Posted via CB1012-20-13 04:08 PMLike 0 -
Why should you? Real facts could contradict your opinionated beliefs and would mean that you have to rethink your position.
As if you would ever do that, on your personal vendetta against BB10...
I'll give you one link, so that Dave doesn't have to do it.
You'll find everything you need there.
I doubt that you'll ever look at the numbers yourself, but hey, you may surprise us a little bit...
http://press.blackberry.com/financial.html
Posted via CB10Dave Bourque likes this.12-20-13 04:15 PMLike 1 - I know that you never did.
Why should you? Real facts could contradict your opinionated beliefs and would mean that you have to rethink your position.
As if you would ever do that, on your personal vendetta against BB10...
I'll give you one link, so that Dave doesn't have to do it.
You'll find everything you need there.
I doubt that you'll ever look at the numbers yourself, but hey, you may surprise us a little bit...
http://press.blackberry.com/financial.html
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Posted via CB1012-20-13 04:25 PMLike 0 -
You should look at the last 4-8 quarters to get an even better picture of these numbers and how they evolved over time.
Latin America and Asia Pacific is pretty much purely a domain of emerging markets.
So we have 20% of the sales instantly being from these regions.
The bigger issue is how to interpret the number where Europe is combined with the Middle-East and Africa.
We know that sales in Europe have been pretty bad and that BlackBerry has a significant position in Africa and the Middle East.
If only a third of these 47% haven't been realised in Europe, but in the other 2 regions, then emerging markets are the ones where BlackBerry sells most of their handsets.
We now add the fact of Europe itself having developing countries and emerging markets, and it's a no brainer to know that the biggest % of BlackBerry buyers isn't situated in "developed" nations.
Btw, would you mind quoting me, where I said that BlackBerry only sells in emerging markets?
I said the majority of sales happen there.
And that is correct.
Posted via CB1012-20-13 04:28 PMLike 0 - Now you surprised me
You should look at the last 4-8 quarters to get an even better picture of these numbers and how they evolved over time.
Latin America and Asia Pacific is pretty much purely a domain of emerging markets.
So we have 20% of the sales instantly being from these regions.
The bigger issue is how to interpret the number where Europe is combined with the Middle-East and Africa.
We know that sales in Europe have been pretty bad and that BlackBerry has a significant position in Africa and the Middle East.
If only a third of these
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FACTS!
Posted via CB1012-20-13 04:34 PMLike 0 -
Count the numbers, it's not that hard...
25 % of sales happen in Latin America and Asia Pacific.
Both emerging markets .
We assume that only 1/3 of the sales in the EMEA region, haven't happened in Europe.
1/3 of 46% is 15.333.
25+15= 40
While 46-15= 31.
40% is the lowest number of %, we can attest to emerging markets.
In this scenario, while Emerging Markets occupy 40% of devices sold, Europe alone at best sits at 31% and North America has about 28% of devices sold.
Posted via CB1012-20-13 04:36 PMLike 0 -
Filter all the developed countries from the rest and perhaps half the sales come from emerging markets, that does not qualify as most sales coming from "emerging markets"
This myth just got busted!
Posted via CB1012-20-13 04:40 PMLike 0 - 28.5% of sales, over a quarter, are in North America - Fact
Filter all the developed countries from the rest and perhaps half the sales come from emerging markets, that does not qualify as most sales coming from "emerging markets"
This myth just got busted!
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Most sales in emerging markets, per definition, means that the highest % of sales happened in these market structures.
I even took numbers that favour your side of the argument.
I am pretty sure that I could find enough data to prove that there were less than 2/3 of 46% of devices sold in Europe.
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