Why do reviewers believe a physical keyboard is 'old school'?
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- No it's because I can find the key, apply a little pressure to keep my fingers from roaming and then press it to type, you can not do that on a glass slab. I have tried many times even a 10 inch tablet is difficult and requires many corrections.Oshasat and DragonMama like this.07-13-15 06:43 PMLike 2
- I don't understand the supreme importance of PKBs on smartphones. I spend 90% of my time reading data and posts on social network sites. The other 10% that I write or post messages, the average text I write is "Honey I'm home". Even then I have a program in my VKB phone that automatically sends that text message to my wife once it detects my WiFi signal in my home or cell tower near my house. Do I miss the "tactile" feedback of sending that automated message? Hell no. Now PKB users will argue what if you had to write a long text. Simple - I call my Wife.
One more thing - OP, if you really want to go old school, I have a Note 4 and I use a stylus to write all my messages. Can't get more traditional than that.
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And those are the only ones who truly get stuff done?
Nobody who writes on a touchscreen phone could potentially write a lot of stuff?pantlesspenguin likes this.07-13-15 08:31 PMLike 1 - Naturally we didn't have to spend that much, but it's still budgeted. And i didn't even request it. Our 9900's replaced two techs and a Toughbook for one of my team's QC functions. A very unusual, but effective, application for smartphones. Our productivity 4X'd first year and this last year is just short of 7x the Toughbook years. Toughbooks hit $5k pretty quickly. $3k's a bargain. $4C was a steal.07-13-15 08:33 PMLike 0
- But what if your finger applies pressure to the wrong key? Or if you accidentally hit two keys instead of one?pantlesspenguin likes this.07-13-15 08:57 PMLike 1
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I've seen many VKB users claim they can type without looking at their fingers. I question that, but with an intuitive autocorrect and lots of practice I'm sure they do pretty well. Well in the case of PKB, we type without looking as a matter of course. If we happen to land between keys we can feel it immediately and adjust, usually as simple as rocking your thumb a bit. Same with hitting the wrong one; that's a rarity, and you can usually feel the difference.
Missing is more likely on a small keyboard like on my Curve, but one nice thing about the Curve (as well as Bold, Torch, and other BBOS devices) was the curved rows of keys which made it easier to orient your thumbs without looking. I miss that on my Q.
Posted via CB1007-13-15 11:32 PMLike 0 - Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesThat really doesn't happen.
I've seen many VKB users claim they can type without looking at their fingers. I question that, but with an intuitive autocorrect and lots of practice I'm sure they do pretty well. Well in the case of PKB, we type without looking as a matter of course. If we happen to land between keys we can feel it immediately and adjust, usually as simple as rocking your thumb a bit. Same with hitting the wrong one; that's a rarity, and you can usually feel the difference.
Missing is more likely on a small keyboard like on my Curve, but one nice thing about the Curve (as well as Bold, Torch, and other BBOS devices) was the curved rows of keys which made it easier to orient your thumbs without looking. I miss that on my Q.
Posted via CB1007-13-15 11:51 PMLike 0 -
Posted via CB1007-13-15 11:54 PMLike 0 -
I can touch type with either a VKB or PKB. I just enjoy doing it more on a PKB. But I know one can touch type on either. Yes.07-14-15 12:37 AMLike 0 -
I find in situations where I am relaxed I can touch type on a VKB. But in a situation where I am stressed and trying too hard, it does not work well. Too many errors.07-14-15 12:42 AMLike 0 -
Anyway she had to send an email and I let her use my Passport. She'd never even touched one before. She sent the email and the first thing she said was she "sure could type a lot better on it than on her phone". She wasn't able to type particularly fast. She was just more comfortable with the feel and was able to make less errors. Now she used to have a BB Tour. I thought it was cool how it felt natural for her to use the PKB again even after typing on glass for about 18 months or so.Oshasat likes this.07-14-15 12:54 AMLike 1 -
- Very interesting discussion. I'm in the PKB camp, but only on the Passport. The physical keys AND swipe to select words are the best of both worlds. I don't think I could go back to a Bold.
I have written essays on the Passport, by now I prefer it to a computer keyboard. I rarely need to type more than 4 letters of a word, and swiping down for the Alt menu is way faster than pressing the alt key. I just find it a pleasure to type on, as long as I don't try to do it in bed (as I'm doing right now - can't sleep on a business trip!) or one-handed. I've used a Z10 and a Z30, and the experience doesn't come close. My most used app is Blue TouchPad, which allows me to use the Passport as a Bluetooth keyboard for my Surface tablet. The vkb on Windows devices is even worse than iPhone's.
I honestly don't know what I would do if BlackBerry stops making pkb phones. Probably buy a couple more Passports and hang onto a dying dream for a few more years.
Posted via CB10 from my awesome Passport07-14-15 01:01 AMLike 2 - Because as I wrote in post 2 -- the VKB is a better trade off overall for how most folks use smartphones. I will also add that I think to a non BB user, the PKB can be intimidating. Especially for older folks. Think about how complicated all those little buttons look to an older person and how comparatively simple the iPhone looks. In fact a friend once told me she thought BlackBerrys "looked complicated because of all those tiny buttons". She ended up getting an iPhone. Lol.Oshasat likes this.07-14-15 01:04 AMLike 1
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- Why yes because I use a smartphone for what it was initially intended to do - make calls.
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07-14-15 02:13 AMLike 0 - Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesI can understand that. Playing around with the Z30 I was amazed at how often and quickly the word I wanted was there for the flicking. With the flicking/swiping you could get very quick. I still hated the actual typing part, but I could see where people would like it and become proficient.
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I still can't do that LOL.07-14-15 06:05 AMLike 0 -
- That really doesn't happen.
I've seen many VKB users claim they can type without looking at their fingers. I question that, but with an intuitive autocorrect and lots of practice I'm sure they do pretty well. Well in the case of PKB, we type without looking as a matter of course. If we happen to land between keys we can feel it immediately and adjust, usually as simple as rocking your thumb a bit. Same with hitting the wrong one; that's a rarity, and you can usually feel the difference.
Missing is more likely on a small keyboard like on my Curve, but one nice thing about the Curve (as well as Bold, Torch, and other BBOS devices) was the curved rows of keys which made it easier to orient your thumbs without looking. I miss that on my Q.
Posted via CB10MarsupilamiX and Laura Knotek like this.07-14-15 11:48 AMLike 2 -
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