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I straddle the age gaps (I'm 38 but I've been "online" longer than almost all of my peers, having been on BBSes back in the mid-1990s when I was a teen).A keyboard is only as good as the user. It's all about proofing one's writing. PKB actually started the trend of lazy writing and poor grammar with abbreviations like BTW, CU, LMAO.
The abbreviations you reference are actually significantly older than social cell phone use. Those were in use back when the only mobile devices with text capabilities were alphanumeric pagers - which, by the by, you have Deaf folks to thank for the spread of mobile tech outside of business uses. And that's also a market segment that is NOT well-served by speech-to-text as they often have significant speech impediments.
Yes, there's a learning curve switching from anything to anything else. However, I've been a touchtypist for more than half my life (yes, I was a touchtypist at 16 - thanks to the aforementioned BBS time, I learned to touch type because I turned off the lights in the room so my mother wouldn't know I was still awake). I got my first cell phone in 1999, a Nokia somethingorother... Then I got a Motorola flip something when I had my first kid and really wanted to keep the keys from getting pressed by his foot jabbing my hip. I think that might have had a camera, too. That was replaced by a Blackberry Flip, which was replaced by a MyTouch 4g Slide four years ago and I am STILL using that phone (after rooting it and getting a semi-recent version of Android running on it, I think JellyBean - as long as the productivity apps I run on it work I don't care if I have the latest and greatest, I don't play games on my phone). I suspect it is a shared trait particular to fluent touchtypists, that I cannot do swipe typing - I am nearly blind to the letters on the left side of the keyboard/screen when I'm only using my right finger, and vice versa. I can actually touchtype on my 4g Slide, when I'm typing on it with dual thumbs I can look up from the entire device (usually to see what my kids are getting up to) and keep typing with more accuracy than many have on a virtual keyboard. I'm not using it to compose THIS message, though - this is on a fully size keyboard with a toddler who is refusing to sleep climbing all over me (so my eyes have been off the screen repeatedly).
On a full size computer keyboard, I type well over 100wpm. On my Slide, I can go around 60 easily. I composed much of my first novel on my Blackberry Flip and edited it on my Slide. I compose 5000 word scenes on the Slide with some regularity (often while at various entertainment venues with my kids - I can get out quite a few bits while waiting for them to go on a ride at an amusement park with their dad). My husband has a Samsung S5 and has offered it to me when I've expressed frustration with how much better the camera on his phone is, but I have just taken to carrying a point-and-shoot around with me instead of sacrificing the much more important functionality of using the phone as a communication device for the sake of a better camera built-in. The few times I've tried to write anything on his phone, such as a grocery shopping list, I have uttered many words that we do not like the children to repeat, at high volume. I hate typing on it. None of the bluetooth keyboards that can go on a phone or reasonably be carried with a phone are tollerable (the keys are all stacked in straight collumns instead of staggered like bricks the way they are on the Android sliders and computer keyboards - I don't have enough experience with BB keyboards anymore to remember how they're stacked but that's a tota dealbreaker for me, I will not hit the A key properly if they're not staggered and I use that key a LOT).
Oh, and I challenge any of you speech-to-text fans to use that around four kids between toddlerhood and tween years. You think damnyouautocorrect.com is entertaining? Oy. Toddlers and preschoolers (and adolescents) generally can not get the concept of Mom talking and it not being a conversation with THEM.
Generally speaking (and this is very much a generalization, not aimed at anyone specific and there are exclusions on each side), my observation is that PKB-preferers are more likely to be makers - creators of content. VKB-preferers are consumers (I won't go so far as to say leeches, will I? Nah...
) of that content, who generally have a preference for form over function. Apple marketed the hell out of iPhones, it's been The Device To Have for a long time, and Jobs decided early on that he didn't want a PKB mucking up the sleekness of his form. All the iPhone Acolytes bowed down and threw money at those things... I consider them toys (in fact, I got an iPod Touch free for opening a bank account a few years back and it was a toddler toy within a month, the only app on it that didn't come with it that is intended for over the age of 5 is an ebook reader app) .
I have nothing against folks who prefer to consume on their devices instead of creating. Authors need readers. Just please stop trying to force everyone into the same damn touchscreen only box. I already "lug" around a folding bluetooth keyboard for my tablet so I don't have to carry my laptop or kill my phone battery if I'm going to be out doing a lot of writing (the keyboard is an old Stowaway - I had one when I used a Palm Pilot back in the early days of the 21st century and composed stories on that, then picked up the bluetooth one on eBay when I got my first Android tablet). That needs a flat surface to write. I steal minutes to get my writing done, and only have a flat surface available maybe 25% of the time that I have available to write (school pickup line being one of my most frequent writing times). If it wasn't for my phone having a PKB, I'd get MUCH less writing done than I do. And that would REALLY **** me off.07-18-15 11:24 PM - Why do PKB users think all PKB users crank out proper sentences and don't use abbreviations. I can easily estimate 2/3 of BlackBerry PKB users are in developing nations. I popped by a busy bus station in Manila and saw bunch of BB PKBs. Those dudes were not sending poetic messages with complete sentences. Hardly.I straddle the age gaps (I'm 38 but I've been "online" longer than almost all of my peers, having been on BBSes back in the mid-1990s when I was a teen).
The abbreviations you reference are actually significantly older than social cell phone use. Those were in use back when the only mobile devices with text capabilities were alphanumeric pagers - which, by the by, you have Deaf folks to thank for the spread of mobile tech outside of business uses. And that's also a market segment that is NOT well-served by speech-to-text as they often have significant speech impediments.
Yes, there's a learning curve switching from anything to anything else. However, I've been a touchtypist for more than half my life (yes, I was a touchtypist at 16 - thanks to the aforementioned BBS time, I learned to touch type because I turned off the lights in the room so my mother wouldn't know I was still awake). I got my first cell phone in 1999, a Nokia somethingorother... Then I got a Motorola flip something when I had my first kid and really wanted to keep the keys from getting pressed by his foot jabbing my hip. I think that might have had a camera, too. That was replaced by a Blackberry Flip, which was replaced by a MyTouch 4g Slide four years ago and I am STILL using that phone (after rooting it and getting a semi-recent version of Android running on it, I think JellyBean - as long as the productivity apps I run on it work I don't care if I have the latest and greatest, I don't play games on my phone). I suspect it is a shared trait particular to fluent touchtypists, that I cannot do swipe typing - I am nearly blind to the letters on the left side of the keyboard/screen when I'm only using my right finger, and vice versa. I can actually touchtype on my 4g Slide, when I'm typing on it with dual thumbs I can look up from the entire device (usually to see what my kids are getting up to) and keep typing with more accuracy than many have on a virtual keyboard. I'm not using it to compose THIS message, though - this is on a fully size keyboard with a toddler who is refusing to sleep climbing all over me (so my eyes have been off the screen repeatedly).
On a full size computer keyboard, I type well over 100wpm. On my Slide, I can go around 60 easily. I composed much of my first novel on my Blackberry Flip and edited it on my Slide. I compose 5000 word scenes on the Slide with some regularity (often while at various entertainment venues with my kids - I can get out quite a few bits while waiting for them to go on a ride at an amusement park with their dad). My husband has a Samsung S5 and has offered it to me when I've expressed frustration with how much better the camera on his phone is, but I have just taken to carrying a point-and-shoot around with me instead of sacrificing the much more important functionality of using the phone as a communication device for the sake of a better camera built-in. The few times I've tried to write anything on his phone, such as a grocery shopping list, I have uttered many words that we do not like the children to repeat, at high volume. I hate typing on it. None of the bluetooth keyboards that can go on a phone or reasonably be carried with a phone are tollerable (the keys are all stacked in straight collumns instead of staggered like bricks the way they are on the Android sliders and computer keyboards - I don't have enough experience with BB keyboards anymore to remember how they're stacked but that's a tota dealbreaker for me, I will not hit the A key properly if they're not staggered and I use that key a LOT).
Oh, and I challenge any of you speech-to-text fans to use that around four kids between toddlerhood and tween years. You think damnyouautocorrect.com is entertaining? Oy. Toddlers and preschoolers (and adolescents) generally can not get the concept of Mom talking and it not being a conversation with THEM.
Generally speaking (and this is very much a generalization, not aimed at anyone specific and there are exclusions on each side), my observation is that PKB-preferers are more likely to be makers - creators of content. VKB-preferers are consumers (I won't go so far as to say leeches, will I? Nah... ) of that content, who generally have a preference for form over function. Apple marketed the hell out of iPhones, it's been The Device To Have for a long time, and Jobs decided early on that he didn't want a PKB mucking up the sleekness of his form. All the iPhone Acolytes bowed down and threw money at those things... I consider them toys (in fact, I got an iPod Touch free for opening a bank account a few years back and it was a toddler toy within a month, the only app on it that didn't come with it that is intended for over the age of 5 is an ebook reader app) .
I have nothing against folks who prefer to consume on their devices instead of creating. Authors need readers. Just please stop trying to force everyone into the same damn touchscreen only box. I already "lug" around a folding bluetooth keyboard for my tablet so I don't have to carry my laptop or kill my phone battery if I'm going to be out doing a lot of writing (the keyboard is an old Stowaway - I had one when I used a Palm Pilot back in the early days of the 21st century and composed stories on that, then picked up the bluetooth one on eBay when I got my first Android tablet). That needs a flat surface to write. I steal minutes to get my writing done, and only have a flat surface available maybe 25% of the time that I have available to write (school pickup line being one of my most frequent writing times). If it wasn't for my phone having a PKB, I'd get MUCH less writing done than I do. And that would REALLY **** me off.07-19-15 10:25 AM - Nicely said. I also wonder whether the divide between PKB users and the rest is essentially the difference between active ("content creators") and passive consumer-types. Before anyone gets their nose out of joint, let me quickly add that the relationship between the two is one of symbiosis and interdependence. One cannot function without the other. I'm walking away from any comments about "leeches" - - and fast.
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Generally speaking (and this is very much a generalization, not aimed at anyone specific and there are exclusions on each side), my observation is that PKB-preferers are more likely to be makers - creators of content. VKB-preferers are consumers (I won't go so far as to say leeches, will I? Nah... ) of that content, who generally have a preference for form over function. Apple marketed the hell out of iPhones, it's been The Device To Have for a long time, and Jobs decided early on that he didn't want a PKB mucking up the sleekness of his form. All the iPhone Acolytes bowed down and threw money at those things... I consider them toys (in fact, I got an iPod Touch free for opening a bank account a few years back and it was a toddler toy within a month, the only app on it that didn't come with it that is intended for over the age of 5 is an ebook reader app) .
I have nothing against folks who prefer to consume on their devices instead of creating. Authors need readers. Just please stop trying to force everyone into the same damn touchscreen only box. I already "lug" around a folding bluetooth keyboard for my tablet so I don't have to carry my laptop or kill my phone battery if I'm going to be out doing a lot of writing (the keyboard is an old Stowaway - I had one when I used a Palm Pilot back in the early days of the 21st century and composed stories on that, then picked up the bluetooth one on eBay when I got my first Android tablet). That needs a flat surface to write. I steal minutes to get my writing done, and only have a flat surface available maybe 25% of the time that I have available to write (school pickup line being one of my most frequent writing times). If it wasn't for my phone having a PKB, I'd get MUCH less writing done than I do. And that would REALLY **** me off.
That the iPhone changed the way we use phones goes without saying; they replaced TVs, computers, Blu-ray players, radios, video game consoles, cameras, flashlights, calculators, and so on. What they haven't done, and still don't do well, is replace the word-processor.
I typed this on a 7-inch tablet and it's a pain AND painstakingly slow.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android07-20-15 12:07 AM - 60 WPM on a PKB phone is totally false. It takes 1 second to press a key. Even if you're typing 1 letter words, you still have to add spaces and commas. Pressing a single key already takes 1 second. A word with spaces would be an average of 5 characters. That's 300 keystrokes to get to 60 WPM. You're telling us you can press a key 1/10 of a second?I straddle the age gaps (I'm 38 but I've been "online" longer than almost all of my peers, having been on BBSes back in the mid-1990s when I was a teen).
The abbreviations you reference are actually significantly older than social cell phone use. Those were in use back when the only mobile devices with text capabilities were alphanumeric pagers - which, by the by, you have Deaf folks to thank for the spread of mobile tech outside of business uses. And that's also a market segment that is NOT well-served by speech-to-text as they often have significant speech impediments.
Yes, there's a learning curve switching from anything to anything else. However, I've been a touchtypist for more than half my life (yes, I was a touchtypist at 16 - thanks to the aforementioned BBS time, I learned to touch type because I turned off the lights in the room so my mother wouldn't know I was still awake). I got my first cell phone in 1999, a Nokia somethingorother... Then I got a Motorola flip something when I had my first kid and really wanted to keep the keys from getting pressed by his foot jabbing my hip. I think that might have had a camera, too. That was replaced by a Blackberry Flip, which was replaced by a MyTouch 4g Slide four years ago and I am STILL using that phone (after rooting it and getting a semi-recent version of Android running on it, I think JellyBean - as long as the productivity apps I run on it work I don't care if I have the latest and greatest, I don't play games on my phone). I suspect it is a shared trait particular to fluent touchtypists, that I cannot do swipe typing - I am nearly blind to the letters on the left side of the keyboard/screen when I'm only using my right finger, and vice versa. I can actually touchtype on my 4g Slide, when I'm typing on it with dual thumbs I can look up from the entire device (usually to see what my kids are getting up to) and keep typing with more accuracy than many have on a virtual keyboard. I'm not using it to compose THIS message, though - this is on a fully size keyboard with a toddler who is refusing to sleep climbing all over me (so my eyes have been off the screen repeatedly).
On a full size computer keyboard, I type well over 100wpm. On my Slide, I can go around 60 easily. I composed much of my first novel on my Blackberry Flip and edited it on my Slide. I compose 5000 word scenes on the Slide with some regularity (often while at various entertainment venues with my kids - I can get out quite a few bits while waiting for them to go on a ride at an amusement park with their dad). My husband has a Samsung S5 and has offered it to me when I've expressed frustration with how much better the camera on his phone is, but I have just taken to carrying a point-and-shoot around with me instead of sacrificing the much more important functionality of using the phone as a communication device for the sake of a better camera built-in. The few times I've tried to write anything on his phone, such as a grocery shopping list, I have uttered many words that we do not like the children to repeat, at high volume. I hate typing on it. None of the bluetooth keyboards that can go on a phone or reasonably be carried with a phone are tollerable (the keys are all stacked in straight collumns instead of staggered like bricks the way they are on the Android sliders and computer keyboards - I don't have enough experience with BB keyboards anymore to remember how they're stacked but that's a tota dealbreaker for me, I will not hit the A key properly if they're not staggered and I use that key a LOT).
Oh, and I challenge any of you speech-to-text fans to use that around four kids between toddlerhood and tween years. You think damnyouautocorrect.com is entertaining? Oy. Toddlers and preschoolers (and adolescents) generally can not get the concept of Mom talking and it not being a conversation with THEM.
Generally speaking (and this is very much a generalization, not aimed at anyone specific and there are exclusions on each side), my observation is that PKB-preferers are more likely to be makers - creators of content. VKB-preferers are consumers (I won't go so far as to say leeches, will I? Nah... ) of that content, who generally have a preference for form over function. Apple marketed the hell out of iPhones, it's been The Device To Have for a long time, and Jobs decided early on that he didn't want a PKB mucking up the sleekness of his form. All the iPhone Acolytes bowed down and threw money at those things... I consider them toys (in fact, I got an iPod Touch free for opening a bank account a few years back and it was a toddler toy within a month, the only app on it that didn't come with it that is intended for over the age of 5 is an ebook reader app) .
I have nothing against folks who prefer to consume on their devices instead of creating. Authors need readers. Just please stop trying to force everyone into the same damn touchscreen only box. I already "lug" around a folding bluetooth keyboard for my tablet so I don't have to carry my laptop or kill my phone battery if I'm going to be out doing a lot of writing (the keyboard is an old Stowaway - I had one when I used a Palm Pilot back in the early days of the 21st century and composed stories on that, then picked up the bluetooth one on eBay when I got my first Android tablet). That needs a flat surface to write. I steal minutes to get my writing done, and only have a flat surface available maybe 25% of the time that I have available to write (school pickup line being one of my most frequent writing times). If it wasn't for my phone having a PKB, I'd get MUCH less writing done than I do. And that would REALLY **** me off.07-20-15 04:16 AM
Why do reviewers believe a physical keyboard is 'old school'?
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