This is why BlackBerry had to go Android
- Nice work with the data. Sadly, a lot of people don't even know that blackberries are still being made. When people see that I have a blackberry they say: "Wow you still got one of those?!?" and I say "yeah and they still make them!"04-26-16 03:45 PMLike 0
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Its also "crazy" that people get "bored" with a phone or OS after probably only a few months now because people have such a short attention span. We can only buy what the companies make. The "old days" being only a couple years ago, where there was lots of choice, are dwindling fast.
Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using TapatalkTheAuthority likes this.04-26-16 04:17 PMLike 1 - Wow. I remember the days when Apple fans were frequently called "smug" and "elitist" and "condescending," but I never encountered anyone that fit those descriptors better than this post.04-26-16 04:52 PMLike 6
- Thanks mate. I'm a former BBOS, z10 and Passport user too. I even just bought a Bold about 3 weeks ago as a backup. However, I'm also a realist and a Data Analyst by profession and totally understand the visualisation you've put up.
I totally agree with everything you said and it's the same reason why for personal, and for the love of BlackBerry that I moved to the Priv. I want them to survive as a handset maker and for now, the only way forward is to give the people what they want. Which means.. Android.
BlackBerry 10 is fantastic but it sure is not gonna keep BlackBerry in business as a handset maker. I really wish the die hards would be a lot more realistic and put their emotions to the side and just get the Priv. Keep your BlackBerry 10 phones of course but upgrade if you can afford it.
Keep BlackBerry in business or we all lose.
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#luvmybb10os04-26-16 05:13 PMLike 0 - It's crazy because 16 year old teenagers are setting the course determining what phones companies build and what is "cool" currently at the moment, and that determines availability for the market for ALL of us.
Its also "crazy" that people get "bored" with a phone or OS after probably only a few months now because people have such a short attention span. We can only buy what the companies make. The "old days" being only a couple years ago, where there was lots of choice, are dwindling fast.
Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using Tapatalk04-26-16 06:01 PMLike 3 -
Now, I am not suggesting that BlackBerry should have adopted Android as it is doing now, but that, had they focused on getting Android apps to provide the user experience of Flow they may have been able to deliver some of the unique functionality of Neutrino to Android apps within the similar time frame that BlackBerry required to deliver BB10. Thus "disrupting the market", as you said, while allowing developers to use their existing software assets and knowledge. Openess not closed gardeness and unique OS capabilities would have truly differentiated BB10 in the marketplace. In 2013 GMS was not present in apps like it is today.
Another interesting tidbit is that Android doesn't have to run on Linux it could run on top of Neutrino (or some other OS). It could be running on top of BB10 and out-of-the box it looks and acts like Android by running the Android Launcher (as an app) upon booting. The Android Compatibility Document suggests that alternative runtime environments could be utilized if encapsulated in a Java app. However, a third party app could simply reduce the Java Launcher to an Active Frame and expose BB10. Imagine a single SKU BlackBerry Android and BB10 device for the carrier stores. The OP has shown the decline in market share, but it is sales numbers that have made R&D required for the above premature. It just may happen that BBRY will determine that putting their proprietary OS under Android will be the best way to differentiate their products.04-26-16 06:06 PMLike 0 -
And of course it is nice to have features, I have an iphone also and I like certain apps, but teens are a huge part of the Market and what they determine is "cool" sells. Unfortunately they do not run out and buy Blackberry anymore.
It is also "crazy" that most if not all the cellular commercials are geared towards youth. They know what they are doing to appeal to the ones that want these features, perhaps more than older age groups.
Companies have to have more FEATURES otherwise people get bored and migrate to something different, as BB learned the hard way.
Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using Tapatalk04-26-16 06:19 PMLike 0 - BB10 (and/or maybe the Priv?) is like the Sega Dreamcast. A respectable effort with good traits but ultimately just not good enough.
Sega used to be one of the major players in the console gaming market, with the Sega Genesis practically being a household name at one point, but their popularity waned along with business, and while Sega is still alive and in much better shape than BB (they still have a ton of revenue from traditional arcades), they have not made any home consumer hardware since 2001 (when they killed the Dreamcast), and focus on making software for their former competitors.
That's what BB will likely become IMO (Android really is just too saturated, and just look at HTC's own woes... I don't have much faith in BB's Android efforts). It'll live on as a much smaller software company, and we'll probably be seeing a few more BB-developed apps on the Play Store and App Store in the coming years.silversmith75 likes this.04-26-16 06:24 PMLike 1 - http://www.cnet.com/news/smartphones...f-teen-market/
And of course it is nice to have features, I have an iphone also and I like certain apps, but teens are a huge part of the Market and what they determine is "cool" sells. Unfortunately they do not run out and buy Blackberry anymore.
It is also "crazy" that most if not all the cellular commercials are geared towards youth. They know what they are doing to appeal to the ones that want these features, perhaps more than older age groups.
Companies have to have more FEATURES otherwise people get bored and migrate to something different, as BB learned the hard way.
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Speaking for myself, I like what BlackBerry has done with Android. I would be interested in a mid priced BlackBerry all touch. I find Android just as good as iOS. I will say that the BlackBerry VKB works just fine on Android.04-26-16 06:42 PMLike 0 - I've had an Android phone for a year and I'm still waiting for this magical slowdown that I keep reading about here. It might be true for some, but that's any device. Even BB10.04-26-16 06:46 PMLike 5
- I only use BlackBerry 10.
"Apps"? Rubbish.
iOS? Rubbish.
Google Spydroid? Rubbish.Last edited by BergerKing; 04-26-16 at 10:21 PM. Reason: Removal of generic insult.
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Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using Tapatalk04-26-16 07:02 PMLike 0 - I agree BUT if this is true then the Priv should be right up there with a Galaxy S7 and Iphone 6S, but it isn't. I still think it comes down to the "coolness" factor. Of course there are many factors but something is missing.
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The LG4 is very close to being a PRIV with no PKB. The LG4 is priced well under a PRIV. To be competitive, BlackBerry would need to make an all touch device that is priced in line with the LG.04-26-16 07:45 PMLike 0 - "Not much interested in a PKB" Few are willing to pay for a feature that they do not need.
The LG4 is very close to being a PRIV with no PKB. The LG4 is priced well under a PRIV. To be competitive, BlackBerry would need to make an all touch device that is priced in line with the LG.
Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using Tapatalk04-26-16 07:59 PMLike 0 - Value.. Perceived value. I would be looking for a sturdy, high quality built phone that would last at least three years. I would want a guarantee that OS updates etc would be available for a reasonable period no less than an Nexus. My own personal value / price point is somewhere between Nexus and Samsung.JeepBB likes this.04-26-16 08:53 PMLike 1
- Value.. Perceived value. I would be looking for a sturdy, high quality built phone that would last at least three years. I would want a guarantee that OS updates etc would be available for a reasonable period no less than an Nexus. My own personal value / price point is somewhere between Nexus and Samsung.
The ios podcats I listen to talks about the Android updates having only something like a 25% download rate compared to 80% or whatever to ios.
I wonder if the DL rates are any different for Blackberry's Android software and if anyone here ever had an update with Android that was Malware?
So I am hearing that Blackberry WILL be offering 2 new devices this year BUT then on AppyGeek last night they said "Blackberry is officially done with Hardware" so what do we believe? If they are going through with the release this year I think its obvious they are trying to keep the loyal BB users by also offering a PKB and the VKB both. This is probably what they were doing by offering the PKB slider on the Priv as well.
Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using Tapatalk04-26-16 09:06 PMLike 0 - Ya I read that Google Nexus phones get Android updates before all other Android devices, but no idea if that is true or not. I have heard bad things about Android, such as 17% of apps being Malware and the app security is not well "controlled."
The ios podcats I listen to talks about the Android updates having only something like a 25% download rate compared to 80% or whatever to ios.
I wonder if the DL rates are any different for Blackberry's Android software and if anyone here ever had an update with Android that was Malware?
So I am hearing that Blackberry WILL be offering 2 new devices this year BUT then on AppyGeek last night they said "Blackberry is officially done with Hardware" so what do we believe? If they are going through with the release this year I think its obvious they are trying to keep the loyal BB users by also offering a PKB and the VKB both. This is probably what they were doing by offering the PKB slider on the Priv as well.
Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using TapatalkIndianTiwari likes this.04-26-16 09:15 PMLike 1 -
Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using TapatalkThud Hardsmack likes this.04-26-16 09:21 PMLike 1 - Ya I read that Google Nexus phones get Android updates before all other Android devices, but no idea if that is true or not. I have heard bad things about Android, such as 17% of apps being Malware and the app security is not well "controlled."
The ios podcats I listen to talks about the Android updates having only something like a 25% download rate compared to 80% or whatever to ios.
I wonder if the DL rates are any different for Blackberry's Android software and if anyone here ever had an update with Android that was Malware?
So I am hearing that Blackberry WILL be offering 2 new devices this year BUT then on AppyGeek last night they said "Blackberry is officially done with Hardware" so what do we believe? If they are going through with the release this year I think its obvious they are trying to keep the loyal BB users by also offering a PKB and the VKB both. This is probably what they were doing by offering the PKB slider on the Priv as well.
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Blackberry needs to follow the Nexus methodology and not the Samsung practises.
Blackberry has no choice but to leave the market or to be a superior Android OEM.04-26-16 09:45 PMLike 0 -
- Going Android was a stop gap measure. It will not be good for them in the long run. BlackBerry can not compete in the hardware war. All their devices the have release far have been released with specs far less that their competitors. The android market is tough and very crowded and dominated by Asian companies. BlackBerry doesn't have the resources to cut into this market. BB10 still remains their most viable option. Nothing sell itself these days. BB10 failed because of poor pricing and promotion.
BB10 or Nothing! BlackBerry Forever!
I've seen some of the most ardent users say sayonara, permanently. Disappointment, facing denial, and finally accepting the change and getting over it. Some have completely gone off the radar, others I know on our sister sites now, some who even changed their name rather than be associated with their persona here.04-26-16 10:19 PMLike 0 - The only phone I had a slowdown on was the S4 when it upgraded to Lollipop, which had so much in it that the poor 16 gig storage couldn't keep up. So my next was a 64 gig Note 5 and still singing sweetly.04-26-16 10:23 PMLike 4
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