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Google is worth more than Apple again - May. 12, 2016
IIRC, Google outsources its hardware to others and the Nexus line seems to sell just fine. Google is doing what BlackBerry has started to do, but Google has greater success.
John Chen would sell his own mother to achieve the "failure" that you ascribe to Google. And MikeL's failure to respond to the iPhone, when Google responded near-instantly, is a matter of historical record that is well-documented in the book "losing the signal".
Google has failed with its own hardware: the Google eye.
Google has bought Boston Dynamics (military robots) and has lost money on it and now wants to sell it.
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Google-...oston-Dynamics
The Nexus devices are not designed by Google and represent less than 2% of all android phones being sold.
Google is only making money from the search engine, collecting your data to figure out which adds to send to your devices and charging the add sellers for it.
So, yes, Google has failed at everything hardware.
The fact that it surpassed Apple from its search engine add sales does not mean that Google makes profitable hardware.
They make money from the search engine developed by Sergey Brin when he was a graduate student at Stanford in the late 1990's. The rest of their software products developed since the search engine are given away "for free" to get more people hooked to their "free" services (not hardware) in return for their data.Last edited by sorinv; 07-18-16 at 07:47 AM.
07-18-16 07:22 AMLike 0 - Google has bought the Motorola hardware division and sold it at a loss later because they lost money on hardware.
Google has failed with its own hardware: the Google eye.
Google has bought Boston Dynamics (military robots) and has lost money on it and has now sold it.
The Nexus devices are not designed by Google and represent less than 2% of all android phones being sold.
Google is only making money from the search engine, collecting your data to figure out which adds to send to your devices and charging the add sellers for it.
So, yes, Google has failed at everything hardware.
The fact that it surpassed Apple from its search engine add sales does not mean that Google makes profitable hardware.
They make money from the search engine developed by Sergey Brin when he was a graduate student at Stanford in the late 1990's. The rest of their software products developed since the search engine are given away "for free" to get more people hooked to their "free" services (not hardware) in return for their data.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanbapt.../#81cdf4cc25f8
*A3-A2007-18-16 07:43 AMLike 0 -
check their modular phones.
moto g is a big hit in emerging markets too.
maybe prior management was not interested in hardware division but maybe new ceo is interested.07-18-16 08:31 AMLike 0 - LOL
Google is worth more than Apple again - May. 12, 2016
IIRC, Google outsources its hardware to others and the Nexus line seems to sell just fine. Google is doing what BlackBerry has started to do, but Google has greater success.
John Chen would sell his own mother to achieve the "failure" that you ascribe to Google. And MikeL's failure to respond to the iPhone, when Google responded near-instantly, is a matter of historical record that is well-documented in the book "losing the signal".07-18-16 08:35 AMLike 2 - Microsoft has outlook exchange SharePoint windows and servers office etc to have constant revenues.
Google has add search engine for data mining and revenues. don't forget Google maps and YouTube for advertisements.
apple has iPhone iPad Mac and money from apps and advertisements.
so basically who all companies standing in mobility has alternate channels of revenue going on.07-18-16 08:42 AMLike 0 -
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But, again, Google had no plans to stay in the hardware business from the very beginning, and didn't want to be competing heavily against their other OEMs - they just needed a big, important stable of patents because they were being sued by Apple over stupid features - including several that Apple didn't invent. Buying Moto gave them access to the biggest set of mobile patents and helped them defend Samsung and HTC (and thus, all of Android) against Apple.
If you look at what Google initially paid, the parts they sold off, and the book value of the patents they got, they came out ahead, and that was before you factor in what a loss to Apple might have ultimately cost. That's just how big business works.07-18-16 10:23 AMLike 2 - BB10 "died" because by the time it was launched, consumers and developers had for the most part moved on, but sure, let's blame the cute little electric mouse.JeepBB and Adam Kowalczyk1 like this.07-18-16 02:34 PMLike 2
- Obviously you have no idea WHY Google bought Moto Mobility. It had zero to do with wanting to be a hardware manufacturer - Google wanted Moto's patents to help defend Android as a whole against Apple and a few others. Google actually improved Moto's hardware business significantly, but it continued to drop for a while after the acquisition because Google had to finish building all of the pre-Google devices that Moto had committed to (such deals are normally made 18-24 months before a device actually ships).
But, again, Google had no plans to stay in the hardware business from the very beginning, and didn't want to be competing heavily against their other OEMs - they just needed a big, important stable of patents because they were being sued by Apple over stupid features - including several that Apple didn't invent. Buying Moto gave them access to the biggest set of mobile patents and helped them defend Samsung and HTC (and thus, all of Android) against Apple.
If you look at what Google initially paid, the parts they sold off, and the book value of the patents they got, they came out ahead, and that was before you factor in what a loss to Apple might have ultimately cost. That's just how big business works.
I suppose you also think they baought nest and failed, they bought Boston dynamics and failed, just to acquire their patents.
What a out the failure of Google eye?
No matter how you spin it, Google has failed REPEATEDLY at making any successful hardware product.07-18-16 03:36 PMLike 0 - It isn't spin - it was obviously their plan - to spend a few billion one-time to protect tens of billions of annual profit.
I suppose you also think they baought nest and failed, they bought Boston dynamics and failed, just to acquire their patents.
What a out the failure of Google eye?
No matter how you spin it, Google has failed REPEATEDLY at making any successful hardware product.
It's not that Google wanted projects to fail, it's just that they weren't afraid of some failures in the process of learning things and pushing boundaries. Their overall success gives them the freedom to take such risks and have failures without risking the health of the entire company over it.
As for Nest, it seems it was mis-managed over the last couple of years, but it still exists and still makes a profit, so it's hardly a failure. They just announced a new product line.
But Google has also succeeded with hardware in a couple of places. The most obvious would be the ChromeCast, which has been hugely successful and, like old BBOS phones, helps ensure a continuing stream of income. The second would be the ChromeBook. Though most aren't manufactured by Google themselves, Google definitely created the product line and they've been hugely successful. For example, a couple of years ago, they represented 3% of devices used in education. This year that number was over 50%, and significantly higher than the former leader, the iPad.
No doubt they've had failures, and no doubt they've made mistakes, but Google is very good about learning from its mistakes and getting better each time - the sign of a successful company. BB would love to have Google's track record, I assure you.07-18-16 03:55 PMLike 5 - It isn't spin - it was obviously their plan - to spend a few billion one-time to protect tens of billions of annual profit.
Oh, no doubt Google has had many failed projects. In years past, that was done intentionally - to take lots of risks knowing that many would fail, and a few would succeed. Larry Page has recently decided to reduce those risks somewhat, and to put most of the riskier ventures into their own business unit.
It's not that Google wanted projects to fail, it's just that they weren't afraid of some failures in the process of learning things and pushing boundaries. Their overall success gives them the freedom to take such risks and have failures without risking the health of the entire company over it.
As for Nest, it seems it was mis-managed over the last couple of years, but it still exists and still makes a profit, so it's hardly a failure. They just announced a new product line.
But Google has also succeeded with hardware in a couple of places. The most obvious would be the ChromeCast, which has been hugely successful and, like old BBOS phones, helps ensure a continuing stream of income. The second would be the ChromeBook. Though most aren't manufactured by Google themselves, Google definitely created the product line and they've been hugely successful. For example, a couple of years ago, they represented 3% of devices used in education. This year that number was over 50%, and significantly higher than the former leader, the iPad.
No doubt they've had failures, and no doubt they've made mistakes, but Google is very good about learning from its mistakes and getting better each time - the sign of a successful company. BB would love to have Google's track record, I assure you.
I'm no fan of Google, but you have to admit they're not afraid to lose sometimes to win overall.07-18-16 04:05 PMLike 5 - For some reason I was left with the impression that BlackBerry is ditching the pkb after they announced the end of the Classic.
Ironic, because when Chen first took over, took a census and concluded that BlackBerry users most associated the tool belt with BlackBerry.
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