[midnightdoom]

So I just got curious, it's been what 5 months now since Snowden leaked the nsa prism spy scandal and we all know the big American tech companies hand over a lot of information (Thanks, Snowden! Now All The Major Tech Companies Reveal How Often They Give Data To Government - Forbes). So I am wondering, has this effected any bodies perception and habits in trusting these companies? What email service are people more leaning towards for privacy. I know some people just don't care, but it's kind of unsettling knowing that my stuff could be snooped on, not that I really have anything important in my email but I don't want just anybody reading my private juicy convos either lol. Plus some of my accounts have more sensitive information like banking accounts etc.

One reason I switched to bb10 from iphone was to get away from these companies knowing BlackBerry is good for their security, but it doesn't really matter if the email you use is giving away everything anyways.

So are people using Gmail or outlook more? Or are their other good providers out there that not everybody knows about?

Side note, how do people feel about this when it comes to apps like bbm, imessage etc? And is blackberry doing the same as Google etc?
Or are people just complacent and just don't really care? It will only get worse in time if they aren't stopped by somebody like EU, and if the TPP trade agreement passes it will definitely get harder to talk to somebody without ever word potentially being used against you later.

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[Djlatino]

Gmail and Hotmail are mah jam

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[thurask]

Important emails are on either Fastmail (security through obscurity, hehe) or my university email. Really important things are in person with the blinds closed.

[just_luc]

Google Apps Mail for everything.

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[teeuwen]

Angelfire, I mean geocities.

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[midnightdoom]

Angelfire, I mean geocities.

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I did not know they were still around. Lol I remember the early days of geocities, that brings back memories

The fastmail looks pretty good. Not too expensive either

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[bhrgvr]

Outlook is my personal mail and Gmail is for all the other stuff

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[maxglass2001]

My yahoo and gmail.

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[bakron1]

GMail for the last several years. I like the fact all my email, calendar and contacts are backed up on the Google servers.

As far as security goes, a friend who is a IT guy once told me nothing is safe if it's broadcast over an open network and/or the internet, period.


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[qwerty4ever]

It matters not what email provider you use because they all can be compromised by man-in-the-middle (MITM) interception but CSEC, GCHQ, NSA et. Al. The few encrypted email providers shutdown either under legal threat of a government or shuttered their services out of an unwillingness to force the evil hand of the government of their respective country.

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[Z30Man]

BlackBerry NSA proof phone. My e-mail is Sasktl's

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[MobileMadness002]

Outlook/Hotmail and Gmail. I personally don't use any form of tinfoil shielding.

[DINGSTER1]

Gmail for important stuff and aol for junk from other companies

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[wyleybuster]

My internet provider for personal, company for business. We also have our own website that has email hosting on the server. Personally, for professional use, I think free email options do not look good.

[MarsupilamiX]

Gmail for important stuff and aol for junk from other companies

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Just to understand the rational behind it:
You use Gmail, which is known to scan the contents of your Mails, for important stuff?
Why?

It's also not to single you out, as there are a ton of users who do the exact same thing, but timing wise I thought I'd ask you.
Why would someone willingly put up with GMail for important stuff?

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[MarsupilamiX]

My internet provider for personal, company for business. We also have our own website that has email hosting on the server. Personally, for professional use, I think free email options do not look good.

You can get domain names on some free email hosters, so it's not that obvious.
But I agree with you, as I use a paid hosted account as well, and the company I work for also provides an Email adress for their employees on their servers.

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[saud1111]

Gmail

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[Vithulan L Nathan]

hotmail/outlook user for many years. Mainly because of their messenger when facebook wasn't mainstream

[sfcramsey]

For junk I use my Timer Warner Road Runner Account funny part I have not had a Time Warner connection for two years but as long as the account stays active it remains free and running. For serious stuff I have my own private domain as a small business owner.

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[CherokeeMarty]

Actually, midnightdoom, all of the big service providers have arrangements with the security operations to provide either back doors or give over the raw data. MITM attacks are for individual attacks once a target has been determined. The two encrypted email providers were forced out by the government(s), but there may be others in the making. MS, Apple, Google, etc., are all active participants, either on their own accord or thru FISA court orders.

The real question is how secure is BBM? Anyone?

[midnightdoom]

Actually, midnightdoom, all of the big service providers have arrangements with the security operations to provide either back doors or give over the raw data. MITM attacks are for individual attacks once a target has been determined. The two encrypted email providers were forced out by the government(s), but there may be others in the making. MS, Apple, Google, etc., are all active participants, either on their own accord or thru FISA court orders.

The real question is how secure is BBM? Anyone?

Yah that's what I mainly wanted to see. As of now I still use Hotmail and Gmail but want to get away from them but don't know to who. I have been following the situation and know lavabit etc shut down, and I know Snowden said essentially any American .com site has to comply to these fisa orders. I did look into that fastmail and being it's Australian they say they don't have to answer to America unless they go through the Australian court. Also Mega(upload) is coming out with an email service soon. Now being I am from Canada I don't know how that effects the backdoor access but have been reading that they are going to leak soon what Canadas version of NSA is up to.

But yah I am also curious on bbm, and if BlackBerry releases the transparency numbers of requests.

I'm not really being "tinfoil hat" about this. This is about our rights to privacy and since these companies don't care to protect it than I don't want to support their services anymore plain and simple.

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[DINGSTER1]

Just to understand the rational behind it:
You use Gmail, which is known to scan the contents of your Mails, for important stuff?
Why?

It's also not to single you out, as there are a ton of users who do the exact same thing, but timing wise I thought I'd ask you.
Why would someone willingly put up with GMail for important stuff?

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My important stuff is all church related so no national secrets...


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[len pothier]

The problem is even if you host your own email as soon as you send mail to a Gmail account it is "compromised". Same for email you receive from anyone using those services. That also does not even consider the possibility of data interception/forced access without provider back doors.

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[jimk345]

Check out hushmail.com. For a secure email alternative. You can send encrypted mail to a non Hushmail user and they can view it by answering a security question. The company is in Canada and yes they will cooperate with the law according to their terms of service. That is a good thing. I don't like crooks.


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[crackbrry fan]

https://runbox.com/
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