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tinochiko On the whole i slightly agree but on certain points I have an issue;
1) all whatsapp does is messaging, so all their resources go into improving and working on the stability etc of their messaging service, it's not so simple or easy with BlackBerry and like I've said myself they need to improve on this
2) it is difficult to even compare bbm with whatsapp because bbm is so much more, and maybe that is part of the problem, right now it's more comparable to Facebook than whatsapp,
3) I'd you're going to make a point that you know is going to be agitative, don't exaggerate, yes outages are more frequent on bbm (even before it was cross platform) but it's not every day, whatsapp does not work 'flawlessly' but this extends to another point..
4) iPhone as an OS is on the whole more stable than BB10, also it has been around longer (though you could argue ios7 was Apples BB10 but not really), at the very least we can say whatsapp has been cross platform much longer than bbm has, that means (and take this in with point one in mind) that they've had time to stabilise their service, making it run smoother etc, whereas bbm cross platform has been out less than 6 months and yes there are glitches but I've already spoken about that in a previous post
5) BBM group chat is not actually a fair comparison to whatsapp, a better comparison is multiperson chat because group chat goes above and beyond( Calender Sync etc) , in any case some people like having an uncluttered chat feed and going somewhere seperate for pictures, the improvement here would be choice but you can't say it's something it lacks because it's just one over the other
6) yes some features on whatsapp work really well, but bbm does so much more (too much arguably) which is why if groups where a seperate app, it would be a little less clustered
7) we all live in the same world we just see it in different ways, a lot of people think they're perspective is right, but how about we just share our perspectives without attacking them and see how much we learn..
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Completly agree with you, atleast there is some sensible discussion started, actually i barely use cb foroums to the fact that people here tend to take it very negatively.
to your points i would like to clarify that agreed BBM is new in cross platform but been is msg vertical for ages i suppose, but if you see other msg or communication apps like wechat, line, kik, all are cross plateform since their inception but why BBM has such issues. trust me when i send pic from my bbm on ios to my bb it keeps showing me sending, when msg comes in notification and when i open it doesnt show anything.
agreed to the fact that BBM planning to go beyong msg thing but when the core features are so unreliable and unstable how can a person use the service.
take wats app they excel in msg stuff... twitter for tweets.. fb for timelines.... but one thing is common in them : their core service is stable and bug free and that makes a person stick to it.
i dont think BBM will do any good in futre also unless, they change the UI, their contact adding stuff and reliability and stability in the core function.
No one care what goodies they are adding, no one outside bb community is intrested in it NOT because of marketting. its about half baked unpolished, untested and complicated UI which doomed the BBM flow.
i remember when first they announced cross plateform, then how many ppl download the app in some anticipation and same expection of quality.. so they spill the beans by themselves only.
yes every app has bugs in beginning but unstability is like death knell for any msg app. no matter how you will keep on eradicating it but yes the perception is changed about BBM and its not at all related with BB. BBM was a class on its own even when bb is down with negative perception.
80 percent of ios and android guys have already deleted bbm or been lying ded in their app drawer, i personally believe they have a very weak team of ios and android developers and lack the designer and analytic guys, quality of resource m talking about. i dont think low cash ahs anything to do with it, people in bangalore india a small team of 5 ppl do a lot more good and better work in its design and development then these guys has done so far.
i am saying on behalf of Grape Unicom pvt ltd (my company) who has built a flawless and awesome app for bahrain egovt authority to be used by ministers in govt. and you know wat, only team of 5 guys together getting paid around 3000 USD per month.
like us there are tons of good companies... thou this is only a small vertical in our portfolio....
we have developed smart sms(SIRI thing on text). thats called something innovative and bb has to think like these things.
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Grape Unicom thx but thats not an endorsement, thats something which i am trying to communicate that when ppl like us can do why cant bb