WhatsApp added 100M users last 4 months: The power of Phone Number Vs PIN
- Technically, I'm still a whatsapp user even though I deleted the app long time ago ... Same goes for millions of people out there... Their phone numbers are in the system even though they don't use it anymore ... Since people don't delete their # from the system, they are counted towards the overall count ...
Posted via CB1012-24-13 03:18 PMLike 0 - Technically, I'm still a whatsapp user even though I deleted the app long time ago ... Same goes for millions of people out there... Their phone numbers are in the system even though they don't use it anymore ... Since people don't delete their # from the system, they are counted towards the overall count ...
Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.192512-24-13 03:21 PMLike 0 - Clearly I am taking non sense....what about 100m users in last 4 months...or 450 active users...run by 40 people and no marketing budget...Thats a non sence.
If most of your friends are on whatsapp you are very likely to convince others to be on whatsapp and once you add your whatsapp contact list is increasing every single day without any effort...but it's all non sence...going around asking people for thier PIN is the best way...
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Posted via CB1012-24-13 03:21 PMLike 0 - They have been out since 2009 so yes, they have an impressive subscriber base. At the moment, the systems are somewhat similar, but once BBM adds the upcoming features like voice, video, channels, and location sharing, Whatsapp will be at a severe disadvantage. I've had Whatsapp twice now... once on my old BB, deleted it, and once on my Z10, again, deleted it.12-24-13 03:22 PMLike 0
- They have been out since 2009 so yes, they have an impressive subscriber base. At the moment, the systems are somewhat similar, but once BBM adds the upcoming features like voice, video, channels, and location sharing, Whatsapp will be at a severe disadvantage. I've had it Whatsapp twice now... once on my old BB, deleted it, and once on my Z10, again, deleted it.
Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.192512-24-13 03:24 PMLike 0 - Only true if You use a BlackBerry.
On iOS and Android the overall experience is currently much better on Whatsapp.
Sent from my Q10 using Tapatalk 212-24-13 03:24 PMLike 2 - [QUOTE=cjcampbell;9756466]They have been out since 2009 so yes, they have an impressive subscriber base. At the moment, the systems are somewhat similar, but once BBM adds the upcoming features like voice, video, channels, and location sharing, Whatsapp will be at a severe disadvantage. I've had it Whatsapp twice now... once on my old BB, deleted it, and once on my Z10, again, deleted it.[/QUOTE
I agree to what you said but it's impossible to convince everyone to take their entire contact list and convert them to BBM just because it has voice or vedio.
It's like Facebook, once you get everyone's whole family and friends member no one can take that away...Google tried thier social and friends, circles etc and it had great features but it was impossible at that point to convert people's whole social circle just because it had few good features....and what's to say that what's app cannot launch all those.
Posted via CB1012-24-13 03:25 PMLike 0 - Give people options and don't force it on them. BlackBerry doesn't give an option to use phone # or Pin. WhatsApp forces their service on you. Both aren't ideal.
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Posted via CB1012-24-13 03:29 PMLike 0 - I'm not sure how many of those 100 million WhatsApp contacts, as indicated by the OP are genuine contacts.
By this I mean that by default, WhatsApp default behavior is to pretty much load your entire phone contact list into it whether or not you choose to make each person on it a WhatsApp contact. So much for respecting one's privacy.
BBM in my mind is doing the right thing. Firstly by using a PIN so that you don't have to share your phone number if you choose not to.
Secondly, by making a person accept an invite before becoming a contact.
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Posted via CB1012-24-13 03:30 PMLike 0 - I'm not sure how many WhatsApp contacts are genuine contacts.
By this I mean that by default, WhatsApp default behavior is to pretty much load your entire phone contact list into it whether or not you choose to make each person on it a WhatsApp contact. So much for respecting one's privacy.
BBM in my mind is doing the right thing. Firstly by using a PIN so that you don't have to share your phone number if you choose not to.
Secondly, by making a person accept an invite before becoming a contact.
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Posted via CB1012-24-13 03:32 PMLike 0 - [QUOTE=BB10user07;9756485]They have been out since 2009 so yes, they have an impressive subscriber base. At the moment, the systems are somewhat similar, but once BBM adds the upcoming features like voice, video, channels, and location sharing, Whatsapp will be at a severe disadvantage. I've had it Whatsapp twice now... once on my old BB, deleted it, and once on my Z10, again, deleted it.[/QUOTE
I agree to what you said but it's impossible to convince everyone to take their entire contact list and convert them to BBM just because it has voice or vedio.
It's like Facebook, once you get everyone's whole family and friends member no one can take that away...Google tried thier social and friends, circles etc and it had great features but it was impossible at that point to convert people's whole social circle just because it had few good features....and what's to say that what's app cannot launch all those.
Posted via CB1012-24-13 03:34 PMLike 0 -
http://m.crackberry.com/more-security-issues-whatsapp
Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.1925rthonpm likes this.12-24-13 03:35 PMLike 1 -
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Posted via CB1012-24-13 03:39 PMLike 0 - There are advantages to both methodologies; but, phone numbers is definitely better for growing your user base so its probably the smarter strategy to make $$$.
And there's no guarantee that Blackberry's initial momentum will be sustained.bekkay likes this.12-24-13 03:39 PMLike 1 - The companies and people who acknowledge their competitors strengths always come out strong and those who don't end up like Blockbuster, Birders, Circuit City to name a few...
There's nothing to loose to give people by default option of adding by phone.
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People need to sign up for a BlackBerry id - personal details like a phone number is not needed to link.
When you invite users, u can email, buzz them via social media, use smart tags...It's not hard.
Hey can I have your phone number... I want to continue this conversation via whatsapp because that's the only other way I can add you.rizdragon likes this.12-24-13 03:44 PMLike 1 - I agree but outside of CB world and fans like us including me it does not work this way....people want simplicity...why would ask someone for a PIN when you are automatically getting then on your whatsapp...it's a sel fulfilling cycle...just like Facebook was at some point
Posted via CB10rizdragon likes this.12-24-13 03:44 PMLike 1 - [dryly] It proves nothing of the sort. First off, we don't know whether these 100M users are "active" users or not. Secondly, it's probably the power of network effects.
It's unclear to me that BBM will be able to overtake Whatsapp unless it offers clear and unambiguous advantages over alternatives on Android and iOS in a stable and extremely usable manner.
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I tried getting my BBM list to grow with very little success and it always comes back to whatsapp. Out of 163 good contacts I have three people who installed it but still keep messaging me on whatsapp. I don't have anything against either platforms and like both.12-24-13 03:47 PMLike 0 - BS?? Line, Kakao , viber all use simple phone number instead of ID or PIN. they are more convenient and successful than BBM12-24-13 03:50 PMLike 0
- I don't think whatsapp forces anything on you. You are agreeing to their terms when downloading the app and it is very clear it uses your phone number. In terms of privacy I would have to agree BBM is certainly better but people are lazy and don't remember their pins from what I have experienced or simply don't know how.
I tried getting my BBM list to grow with very little success and it always comes back to whatsapp. Out of 163 good contacts I have three people who installed it but still keep messaging me on whatsapp. I don't have anything against either platforms and like both.
That's hey give people option to do both on BBM.
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