1. Josh Ruiter's Avatar
    For what its worth here is my story, Whats your story?

    I haven't used a Blackberry product since a Blackberry Storm before that I had a Curve 8330, after the storm I went to android, and never looked back. Until recently. I read the book "Losing the signal: the spectacular rise and fall of Blackberry" Then it got me thinking of Blackberry again. I started looking at old Blackberries for sale on kijiji and was shocked at how much some of the old devices were still worth, Such as the Passport which I never even heard of or seen before reading the book. Lucky for me I knew a old employee from RIM, Since I live in Kitchener-Waterloo its not hard to find someone who once worked at RIM. He had a couple passports, a classic, and Q10 , Q5 and a Priv. The devices were still in a sealed box, That's what brought me back to this form. I ended up opening up the phones. I wished i experienced these devices when they were new, but I still enjoy them, The Q5 and Q10 I have put retro Arch on them with tons of Gameboy games for my boys, The Classic my wife uses the classic to send me BBM messages to the Passport that I am using. I have been using my Passport as a coffee table device mostly, but have used it to detox from the everyday distractions of the new age of smart phone. I really enjoy the Passport its a good phone, I wonder if I knew about it, if I would have got it. At the time it was being released the local News was tough on Blackberry often reminding everyone that it was failing.

    That's why i'm here.
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    08-14-20 09:48 AM
  2. bh7171's Avatar
    For what its worth here is my story, Whats your story?

    I haven't used a Blackberry product since a Blackberry Storm before that I had a Curve 8330, after the storm I went to android, and never looked back. Until recently. I read the book "Losing the signal: the spectacular rise and fall of Blackberry" Then it got me thinking of Blackberry again. I started looking at old Blackberries for sale on kijiji and was shocked at how much some of the old devices were still worth, Such as the Passport which I never even heard of or seen before reading the book. Lucky for me I knew a old employee from RIM, Since I live in Kitchener-Waterloo its not hard to find someone who once worked at RIM. He had a couple passports, a classic, and Q10 , Q5 and a Priv. The devices were still in a sealed box, That's what brought me back to this form. I ended up opening up the phones. I wished i experienced these devices when they were new, but I still enjoy them, The Q5 and Q10 I have put retro Arch on them with tons of Gameboy games for my boys, The Classic my wife uses the classic to send me BBM messages to the Passport that I am using. I have been using my Passport as a coffee table device mostly, but have used it to detox from the everyday distractions of the new age of smart phone. I really enjoy the Passport its a good phone, I wonder if I knew about it, if I would have got it. At the time it was being released the local News was tough on Blackberry often reminding everyone that it was failing.

    That's why i'm here.
    Welcome- BlackBerry engineered and built some phenomenal devices. Awesome to see the appreciation. Maybe BlackBerry's will be the new "vinyl" after all. 🤘😎
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    08-14-20 10:24 AM
  3. brookie229's Avatar
    I really enjoy the Passport its a good phone, I wonder if I knew about it, if I would have got it
    I'm still using the Passport today as my main device although I have several other android devices. My story for this device was really an accidental purchase. The accident wasn't really my problem but it was RIM/Digital River's accident. When the Passport was first sold, Digital River (at the time was BB retail outlet) mistakenly discounted about 200 of the devices at 25% off. It was supposed to be a 25% discount on auxiliary products (cases etc). I had originally decided not to get one because of the weird dimensions. Even told the wife that I thought they were goofy-looking etc. We both had Z10's at the time (they were relatively new for us as well). When someone on CB Forums posted about the mistake, I immediately purchased 2 devices on the spur of the moment. I figured that I could always resell them if I had to. I was ready to do that until I saw the quality of the device after unboxing. Decided to give it a 3 week break-in period and grew to love pretty much everything about the device. Now, of course, the native browser, cloud hooks and other software has or is breaking down so that we pretty much need other devices. But, to this day, I am still using the same device with the same battery that has well over 1000 cycles on it and it still lasts me all day. It has been an amazing device for me.

    p.s. I like your retro use for the Q5 and Q10.
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    08-14-20 10:31 AM
  4. Stinkycat71's Avatar
    Looking forward to other people posting there stories,interesting reads and now more than ever it's great to hear people reminisce.

    Posted via CB10
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    08-14-20 11:43 AM
  5. Ashley Taylor's Avatar
    My BlackBerry story.

    I originally setup an evaluation Nokia WAP server and SMS gateway so we could push price updates to our sales force in 2003.

    T-Mobile then contacted us about BlackBerry, so I initially setup BES2.2 (we were running Lotus Domino) for a Pilot of 20 users, using 7230

    When we did the full role out to 600 Salesforce, we gave them a choice of 7230 or 7100T (First Sure type device)

    I the. Got one of the first BlackBerry Pearls in the UK (8100) the one all the celebrities were being pictured with, then quickly got the one with WiFi (I believe it was the 8110, because didn’t the 8120 come with GPS?) it’s a long time ago. By this time others were coming in to the pearl fold, but that trackball was awful - sorry ladies, but when holding the phone to your ear, the trackball used to get clogged with makeup.

    I then switched to the 9000 Bold (one of the best made phones they made ever) and then got a 9500 storm - which was an awful touchscreen device (but allegedly They used it to remote control a McLaren F1
    Car...)

    Then I left The Pharmaceutical company and joined BlackBerry as a Premier Support Analyst in their Direct Advanced Response Team (DART) I cant remember the first device they gave me, probably a curve 9300 series but more about that later.

    Tech support was on a completely new level. They put us through Kepner Tregoe Certifications (Systematic Troubleshooting) and because I was in the IBM Lotus Domino Team, most of the major banks were our customers.

    Next device I got was the Torch Slider (9800 series) which still goes down to being one of my favourite phones ever. I skipped the 9700 series.

    Then I got a 9900 Bold which was a fantastic device, but I preferred the Torch, because it was smaller.

    I then got 3 Playbooks and although it was marketed as having to require a BlackBerry phone to get email (which as a marketing strategy is ridiculous you didn’t need an iPhone to be able to get email on an iPad- and BlackBerry pioneered the mass mobile email) but even today, I have not heard a tablet or phone with as good an audio system as the playbook. Worlds first DJ mixing software on a tablet was on a Playbook

    So now we get on to BB10. I had one of the UKs first Z10s (It only had 1GB Ram but the original TAT (The Astonishing Tribe) interfaces was sublime. TAT reminded me of the graphic design Designers Republic did for the PlayStation Wipeout. A specialist UI company doing a BlackBerry UI? It was gorgeous. And then as the Beta’s went through, management got involved and said “it’s not corporate enough” - what planet were they living on when users in droves were switching to iOS and Android because they wanted a consumer experience too.

    Best BB10 phone I had? Z30 - it’s a shame it turned out to be nothing more than a Z10 with a bigger screen when the original idea was to have quad core processor and twice the RAM.

    The Priv was a nice phone, but by then I had already switched to an iPhone 6S and got an Arcam Musicboost to go with it (Battery pack and Arcam DAC headphone amplifier to go with my B&W headphones- you have to remember I was commuting 3 hours each way - so needed high quality music)

    I actually understood QNX logs from the device as managed to catch some bugs in the Betas due to log analysis.

    So I started off as an Analyst at BlackBerry, got promoted to Technical Lead Analyst the promoted to Senior Analyst. Then when’s
    Principal Analyst got seconded, I took over his duties. Developing BES12 (UEM) for
    Some of the biggest banks and was the BB10 / PGP SME

    Supported Beta and Early adopters for Secure Workspace which was crap and then after BlackBerry took over Good spent 3 months on site at JP Morgan as their dedicated Senior Analyst

    I may moan about BlackBerry, but they were the best company I ever worked for - maybe not the most profitable
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    08-14-20 05:48 PM
  6. Ashley Taylor's Avatar
    Did you know RIM won an Oscar?

    Academy Awards 1999


    To Ed Zwaneveld and Frederick Gasoi of the National Film Board of Canada, and Mihal Lazaridis and Dale Brubacher-Cressman of Research in Motion for the design and development of the DigiSync Film KeyKode reader.
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    08-14-20 05:49 PM
  7. idssteve's Avatar
    My earliest exposure to "Research In Motion" was a pager. Can't recall the model but the ability to respond to a page in real time proved a game changer for me. Especially while working industrial environments too noisy for voice. Lol. AND, that pager was WAY easier to keep on person than the bag phones of the day. Lol.

    I've valued that use case of quick & easy real time typed response thru comfortably compact and portable equipment ever since. It's what freed me from office cubicle life. It's what helped me build and nurture several proudly successful business ventures while simultaneously living a LIFE away from desktop chains!

    Another game changer was Pearl's proficiency to edit spreadsheets. Its trackball was a reliability nightmare (got really fast at swapping them out... Bought a TON of them from CB store...) BUT, trackball proved a single handed joy for selecting spreadsheet cells to edit... Then came the 9650... TrackPAD enjoyed wondrous reliability AND full qwerty pkb made for wondrous spreadsheet editing. So much so that a single tech with one of those Bolds in a single hand could now do twice the conductor/terminal trace & spreadsheet editing productivity that "Two Techs and a Toughbook" had been doing over the previous decade! Over 4x the net productivity!

    Convincing the huge company I'd sold my previous company to, and was then working for, of the business model potential then led me into a leave of absence while I assumed control & client base of a failing competitor. Ultimately proving the viability of the concept. Client plants suffering from decades of undocumented alterations could now hire a dedicated crew to trace and otherwise audit terminations. Building an invaluable document foundation to base upgrades and troubleshooting on. In half the time and 1/4th the expense of "Two Techs and a Toughbook"! Leaving a nice margin to boot. We soon dominated that niche. Profitably so. I soon sold that company back to my former employer and resumed employment with them. Just in time for 9900 to debut...

    What a sweetheart 9900 was and remains for sheer comfort and eagerness of collaborative productivity! Its early OS7.0 suffered horrific memory management "garbage collection" reliability issues, tho. Enough so that, by 2013, we were eager for the newer "better" BB10. I led the charge into that fiasco. What a bad joke!

    We were expecting some teething issues and certainly expected a learning curve with the new platform... BUT, our productivity totally tanked and, more importantly, never recovered thru 2013. That learning curve plateaued a few months in and productivity never recovered. Z/Q never challenged 9900 productivity #s during 2013. Loss of trackpad was sorely felt. BB10.0, as released, really should've been called BB1.0. We'd encountered so many half baked deficiencies during that first week of Z adoption that we started referring to early BB10 as "Barely Baked When?"...lol.

    How could a tool advocated for "business" fail to include provision for inserting rows in a spreadsheet? As one of many examples. Unforgivable oversights, imo. Adding to the insult, BB management had indicated they'd "learned their lesson" with Storm rush job and taken an additional year to get BB10 "right"...?? I'd hate to see what BB10 looked like the year previous! Lmao.

    They ultimately evolved BB10 into a fine, if app starved, platform but it REEEEEALLY needed to intro at 10.3.3 in 2012! Imo. Fwiw. As is, we STILL can't insert rows in DTG spreadsheet! Go figure. Lol. Who, exactly WAS the target audience? They missed both business AND consumer targets, imo.


    Ultimately, early 2014, OS7.1 evolved adequately for Bold to reliably handle memory management and my "smart guys" confronted me, handed me a 9900 that I hadn't touched in a year, and challenged to be shown WHAT, precisely, Q10 does as well as 9900...?? I could not. In a couple minutes, after a year's hiatus, that old Bold felt like my favorite pair of old shoes! It was a wondrous reunion!

    By end of that fateful week, my whole crew had staged a "mini revolt" and dug out old Bolds and started making forward progress we hadn't enjoyed for a year. That first month back on Bold set a new record for productivity. A record that's been re-set countless times since. Productivity that tanks EVERY time we attempt to substitute newer "improved" handsets.

    Mike burned the recipe for BB's "special sauce" by sequestering QNX from BBOS experience. Sadly, here we are. Horrified at predictions of where we'll too soon be. Chained to two handed slabs that almost need wheels to carry? Lol.

    Don't be sad it ended... Be grateful it ever happened!


    .
    Last edited by idssteve; 08-18-20 at 07:24 AM.
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  8. Ashley Taylor's Avatar
    My earliest exposure to "Research In Motion" was a pager. Can't recall the model but the ability to respond to a page in real time proved a game changer for me. Especially while working industrial environments too noisy for voice. Lol. AND, that pager was WAY easier to keep on person than the bag phones of the day. Lol.

    I've valued that use case of quick & easy real time typed response thru comfortably compact and portable equipment ever since. It's what freed me from office cubicle life. It's what helped me build and nurture several proudly successful business ventures while simultaneously living a LIFE away from desktop chains!

    Another game changer was Pearl's proficiency to edit spreadsheets. Its trackball was a reliability nightmare (got really fast at swapping them out... Bought a TON of them from CB store...) BUT, trackball proved a single handed joy for selecting spreadsheet cells to edit... Then came the 9650... TrackPAD enjoyed wondrous reliability AND full qwerty pkb made for wondrous spreadsheet editing. So much so that a single tech with one of those Bolds in a single hand could now do twice the conductor/terminal trace & spreadsheet editing productivity that "Two Techs and a Toughbook" had been doing over the previous decade! Over 4x the net productivity!

    Convincing the huge company I'd sold my previous company to, and was then working for, of the business model potential then led me into a leave of absence while I assumed control & client base of a failing competitor. Ultimately proving the viability of the concept. Client plants suffering from decades of undocumented alterations could now hire a dedicated crew to trace and otherwise audit terminations. Building an invaluable document foundation to base upgrades and troubleshooting on. In half the time and 1/4th the expense of "Two Techs and a Toughbook"! Leaving a nice margin to boot. We soon dominated that niche. Profitably so. I soon sold that company back to my former employer and resumed employment with them. Just in time for 9900 to debut...

    What a sweetheart 9900 was and remains for sheer comfort and eagerness of collaborative productivity! Its early OS7.0 suffered horrific memory management "garbage collection" reliability issues, tho. Enough so that, by 2013, we were eager for the newer "better" BB10. I led the charge into that fiasco. What a bad joke!

    We were expecting some teething issues and certainly expected a learning curve with the new platform... BUT, our productivity totally tanked and, more importantly, never recovered thru 2013. That learning curve plateaued a few months in and productivity never recovered. Z/Q never challenged 9900 productivity #s during 2013. Loss of trackpad was sorely felt. BB10.0, as released, really should've been called BB1.0. We'd encountered so many half baked deficiencies during that first week of Z adoption that we started referring to early BB10 as "Barely Baked When?"...lol.

    How could a tool advocated for "business" fail to include provision for inserting rows in a spreadsheet? As one of many examples. Unforgivable oversights, imo. Adding to the insult, BB management had indicated they'd "learned their lesson" with Storm rush job and taken an additional year to get BB10 "right"...?? I'd hate to see what BB10 looked like the year previous! Lmao.

    They ultimately evolved BB10 into a fine, if app starved, platform but it REEEEEALLY needed to intro at 10.3.3 in 2012! Imo. Fwiw. As is, we STILL can't insert rows in DTG spreadsheet! Go figure. Lol. Who, exactly WAS the target audience? They missed both business AND consumer targets, imo.


    Ultimately, early 2014, OS7.1 evolved adequately for Bold to reliably handle memory management and my "smart guys" confronted me, handed me a 9900 that I hadn't touched in a year, and challenged to be shown WHAT, precisely, Q10 does as well as 9900...?? I could not. In a couple minutes, after a year's hiatus, that old Bold felt like my favorite pair of old shoes! It was a wondrous reunion!

    By end of that fateful week, my whole crew had staged a "mini revolt" and dug out old Bolds and started making forward progress we hadn't enjoyed for a year. That first month back on Bold set a new record for productivity. A record that's been re-set countless times since. Productivity that tanks EVERY time we attempt to substitute newer "improved" handsets.

    Mike burned the recipe for BB's "special sauce" by sequestering QNX from BBOS experience. Sadly, here we are. Horrified at predictions of where we'll too soon be. Chained to two handed slabs that almost need wheels to carry? Lol.

    Don't be sad it ended... Be grateful it ever happened!


    .
    The Pearl’s trackball unreliability was primarily women’s make up clogging it and sweat. Switch cleaner was quite good at cleaning it..

    Or when women had dropped them down the toilet - I remember a sales director bringing her dripping pearl to me asking f I god fix it. My response, throw it in the bin.

    “It’s only water” I replied and Urine.

    “just my urine”

    “How do you know, there could be other people’s urine”

    She tried to hand it to me and I said “Get that thing away from me”

    Sometimes you have to say “No!”

    The trackpads weren’t infallible. They didn’t work under the floodlights of Tottenham Hotspur training ground.
    08-19-20 10:29 AM
  9. idssteve's Avatar
    The Pearl’s trackball unreliability was primarily women’s make up clogging it and sweat. Switch cleaner was quite good at cleaning it..

    Or when women had dropped them down the toilet - I remember a sales director bringing her dripping pearl to me asking f I god fix it. My response, throw it in the bin.

    “It’s only water” I replied and Urine.

    “just my urine”

    “How do you know, there could be other people’s urine”

    She tried to hand it to me and I said “Get that thing away from me”

    Sometimes you have to say “No!”

    The trackpads weren’t infallible. They didn’t work under the floodlights of Tottenham Hotspur training ground.
    Haha... SOMEtimes you just must say NO!... Lol.

    I'm among "old school" engineers who "get dirty" for a living. My old academic counselor & department head at a certain "prestigious" school of mines was fond of admonishing us youngsters that "REAL engineers get dirty!". Lol. He wore bibs that carried slide rule, calipers, explosion proof flashlight, pliers, pick mallet, micrograph, #2 & #4 pencils, pointer, natural rubber eraser, etc, etc... Get the picture? He also frequently carried a portable briefcase drawing board that he'd designed & constructed himself for documenting "real time as-builts"... On site, right then, right there... Frequently those as-builts proudly displayed his fingerprinted smudges of authentication... Lol.

    I constructed and carried such a contraption myself for similar as built documentation... Back before AutoCAD became portable... Lol. When assembling my original team, decades ago, hands on hobbies were attributes I sought. Every single one of my team actively enjoys hands on activities like motor racing, HAM radio construction, etc, etc... Every single one of my team showers AFTER (and before. Lol) work! We LOVE every minute of getting dirty! Grease, oil, graphite, conductive compound, dielectric, antiseize, etc, etc get on our thumbs. Sometimes wrecking trackpads. But it takes very little nickel antiseize compound to render the old trackballs landfill fodder... THAT stuff finds itself EVERYwhere! Capacitive slabs aren't immune, either. Lol. Hehe...
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