What makes iphone so successful?
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Time and time again popular preference has NOTHING to do with quality or a superior product. Brand loyalty is emotionally driven rather than logical.10-18-16 09:02 AMLike 0 -
I recall standing in line for a new SG3 (98 cents, thanksgiving sale) and the lady behind me said she would rather pay more for the new iphone at that time, than get the SG3, because she already had an iphone and didn't want to go through the hassle of changing everything.
In the end, I think the answer to the original question of this thread is, people stick with iphone because it's easier to do so.10-18-16 09:04 AMLike 0 -
Let's just agree to disagree on the matter.DJ BigToe likes this.10-18-16 09:28 AMLike 1 -
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An firm of analysts (dewitler Fenton) claimed that "for some retailers" that returns were outstripping demand. BBRY denied it.
However go forward a couple of years and the analyst from Dewilter Fenton was arrested and charged with insider trading. How was he charged with insider trading? Because he knew the claims were true because a exec from a Verizon franchise (Trustzone) was giving him the sales data (in exchange for cash). There was never any dispute at the trial that the data was true. If I remember correctly he didn't get jail time but the Exec got five months.JeepBB likes this.10-18-16 09:36 AMLike 1 - It was a more than a year ago, but I remember going to a website that let you compare different phones- processor speed, screen resolution, memory capacity etc. My wife was looking at a Samsung Galaxy 5 and a comparable Iphone. Because I was thinking of getting one, I throw the Passport in as well. I don't remember actual numbers, but I do recall not seeing anything that stood out on the Iphone.
Posted via CB1010-18-16 09:48 AMLike 0 - This is an ongoing crackberry myth - those stories were absolutely true for the claims they made. Here's what happened.
An firm of analysts (dewitler Fenton) claimed that "for some retailers" that returns were outstripping demand. BBRY denied it.
However go forward a couple of years and the analyst from Dewilter Fenton was arrested and charged with insider trading. How was he charged with insider trading? Because he knew the claims were true because a exec from a Verizon franchise (Trustzone) was giving him the sales data (in exchange for cash). There was never any dispute at the trial that the data was true. If I remember correctly he didn't get jail time but the Exec got five months.10-18-16 09:51 AMLike 0 - I vaguely remember the articles. 400 or so locations for Verizon authorized retailers. i don't know if that is a large enough sample size to really make the conclusion that all returns outpaced sales.. especially when you are considering only the Verizon model back in 2003.10-18-16 10:02 AMLike 0
- Thats exactly what marketing is for. You must create a demand for a product, not wait for people to discover it. Apple made everyone think iPhone was the MUST HAVE device and that life would be much improved with it. I stand by my opinion that the app ecosystem had little to do with its lack of popularity.
But let's say that they did: what amazing, must-have features would average consumers have found compelling enough to leave their respective ecosystems had BB10 been marketed as you suggest?10-18-16 10:20 AMLike 0 - This is quite possibly the dumbest statement ever made on this forum. You do realize, perhaps you dont, that it was the lack of apps that killed BB10. A lack of apps, an unfinished OS, average build quality at best, the inability to catch up. Yes, to catch up. Perhaps you can expand on why an iPhone is not new and / or innovative.10-18-16 10:30 AMLike 0
- Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesOn paper, the iPhones specs may not really shine. You have to look at the end results... and with the iPhone's hardware set combined with how well iOS is optimized to work with that hardware set, it's hard to get the same results out of generic chipsets and Android that is meant to work on a huge range of hardware. The iPhone might not have the best of any one category, but the overall package is usually better. Some Android OEM might come up with a great Camera that mages to beat Apple's on DxOMark scores... but then they editing software might not be nearly as good. Someone my have more cores and higher cycles on the CPU... but memory management, or Android in general can't allow it to shine in real world use.
Apple mobile devices might not be at the top of the specs list, but when you consider how well they work -- plus the best ecosystem, period -- they're tough to beat.10-18-16 10:33 AMLike 2 - Matches what the a new corporate rep told me about eight months later....
Have to remember that with Verizon (and I think AT&T) the Z10 was a daily rebooting nightmare for almost a month... even if it had the apps, most consumers would not have kept it. Only reason I did was "I believed", and was able to load a leak that fixed the rebooting issues. But it was almost three weeks till Verizon pushed out that update.10-18-16 10:33 AMLike 0 - Because there is a sucker born every minute willing to overpay and many people have selective tolerances for corporate greed and transgressions.
They do make a great product with a great processor and an excellent camera.
In terms of world market share, however, Android is kicking everybody's butt.
Posted via CB1010-18-16 10:34 AMLike 0 - Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesBB never had the kind of money they'd have needed for the type of sustained marketing campaign that they'd have needed to overcome their negative brand image - not even close.
But let's say that they did: what amazing, must-have features would average consumers have found compelling enough to leave their respective ecosystems had BB10 been marketed as you suggest?
...waiting on someone to say "Security!"10-18-16 10:34 AMLike 2 - If productivity = ease of use, how can ease of use be a bad thing. If an iPhone is easy to use then how can one claim its not a productivity device? You seem to suggest that a BB is harder to use which would cut down on productivity. If that's true, how can it be considered a productivity device?10-18-16 10:39 AMLike 0
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- So, going back to your 45 year old example, Are you saying that todays processors, based on their capabilities are not considered innovative when compared to the example you put out there. Dual core, quad core, octo core, hyper threading, advanced design and so on? Would you also think thqat the addition of a turbocharger on an internal combustion engine is not innovative? The engine design itself hasn't really changed. Perhaps you're just unable to admit you're wrong. Dont feel bad, you're not alone. A lot of people have the defectanon(3983727) likes this.10-18-16 11:05 AMLike 1
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ˈinəˌvāt/Submit
verb
make changes in something established, especially by introducing new methods, ideas, or products.
"the company's failure to diversify and innovate competitively"
introduce (something new, especially a product).
"innovating new products, developing existing ones"
Now do you finally get it?
I've never understood the person who argues from a position of stubbornness10-18-16 11:14 AMLike 0 - Besides all of the marketing and processors, a major reason why Apple products work is because they work together. You can pick up all conversations on any device signed into your account. You can go from your phone to your iPad to your mac and not lose the conversation. It's crazy how efficient it makes things. You can answer calls on your ipad/mac while your phone charges.
Everything works together.10-18-16 11:17 AMLike 0 - BB never had the kind of money they'd have needed for the type of sustained marketing campaign that they'd have needed to overcome their negative brand image - not even close.
But let's say that they did: what amazing, must-have features would average consumers have found compelling enough to leave their respective ecosystems had BB10 been marketed as you suggest?
Just think about what Apple advertised for the iPhone. By 2013 they were no longer using the "YOU NEED THIS" strategy but instead using emotional draw to hype its products. they used various unnamed apps to show compelling images of things people may be emotionally tied to. It was not a display of unique abilities of the device but instead series of beautiful things and sounds displayed on the device.
Blackberry's few ads hardly showed the device and almost never showcased what it can actually do. the vast majority of the public had no idea the device existed, the few that saw the ads had no idea how it was different from the Blackberry their parents carried as a corporate device.10-18-16 11:19 AMLike 0 -
It may actually be your best chance of making a profit. It certainly is less risky because if you are going to buy the ads then you certainly have to order the phones - there's no point in creating a demand if you don't have enough inventory. It's a huge crap-shoot if you aren't sure that there is enough demand.
If awareness is that big of an factor then you should be able to get most of your family and friends to buy BlackBerries because surely you have made them aware of how great they are. How's that going?10-18-16 11:29 AMLike 0
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