[peednus]

"At the end of the day, people don't need unlimited plans," Verizon Chief Financial Officer Fran Shammo

They flurking sure do!!!

Verizon Confirms It's Booting Unlimited Data Users | DSLReports, ISP Information

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[howarmat]

200GB is stupidly high. is more than some people get for a home internet allowance

[Rello]

People need unlimited data but going over 200GB is overly excessive lol.

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[eshropshire]

I believe AT&T unlimited is around 26 GB before they throttle also I don't know if it still happens but in the past if they caught you using a hotspot kick you off unlimited. T-Mobile the limit on unlimited is like 26 GB. Unlimited has strange definitions in the mobile world.

[z10Jobe]

How does one use over 200gb per month?


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[JohnKCG]

Well, for 4k like stuff is pretty necessary, in fact, someone that works With heavy stuff can get quickly close to that

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[peednus]

How does one use over 200gb per month?


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Porn.

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[Aju]

Porn.

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5K quality ones?

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[kvndoom]

Porn.

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And Steam. And Netflix. And Hulu. And MMO's.

But that's all through our cable Internet. Most of the people using that much from a mobile device were most likely using it as their home's hotspot.

Blackberry Poptart SE - Cricket Wireless

[eshropshire]

I personally don't see how you can use that much unless you are using it as a hotspot. To use a hotspot in the unlimited plans you were suppose to pay extra.

Other Verizon limited plans had to include the hotspot because of a deal Verizon made with the FCC when they bought additional spectrum. The old unlimited plans were excluded.

I am actually surprised they are limiting this to 200 GB. I would have thought 50 GB would be the limit. Also, remember these are customers who are now on Month to month contracts. The customer is free to leave at the end of the month and Verizon can make changes month to month.

[ominaxe]

When I spent almost a month in my car driving around the country I was streaming Netflix 16 hours a day. That month, I think I used 60 gigs or so, the most I could possibly watch and use. 200 gigs is absolutely ridiculous. This MUST be hotspot/downloading.

I don't even feel like I can do that on hardwired Internet. Though I could see a small percentage of people where broadband isn't available and they rely on 4G. But in that case, it still shouldn't be that high.

[fschmeck]

Wow. I have a dinosaur limited plan that gives me 5Gb a month, something no longer offerred at my price point. 200Gb a month? Never even heard of 20Gb a month on mobile, much less 200...

But I'm not in the USA. Americans have some crazy options the rest of us can only dream of.

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[DanylW]

AT&T's unlimited data plan is 22 Gig by the way.

[WretchedRunner]

Yeesh, take a break from XXXbox!


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[werkregen]

Wow. I have a dinosaur limited plan that gives me 5Gb a month, something no longer offerred at my price point. 200Gb a month? Never even heard of 20Gb a month on mobile, much less 200...

But I'm not in the USA. Americans have some crazy options the rest of us can only dream of.

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The crazy options are in Romania. It's basically the one thing we can be proud of.

- 10Eur / month for 4G mobile data,16GB traffic (Hotspot or whatever)
- 20Eur / month for fiber optics, unlimited data at gigabit speeds (download; upload is a tad slower). Unlimited is truly unlimited - I've transferred terrabytes per month (backups to amazon, Linux ISOs etc)

[BlackBerryMagnet]

I called VZW & was told the effort to purge or 're-plan' users consuming 200GB+ per month is true & that I am one of 8200 VZW unlimited data legacy users & they can't stand it. I average 10 - 12GB per month but have peaked at 30GB in the past mostly on the phone, not with hotspot. I don't understand how most people aren't using at least 30 - 50 GB per month with today's video-heavy or data-heavy internet, in general. I also don't understand how only 8K 'unlimited data' users spread all over their network could affect its efficiency enough to matter.

I pay $40 access / voice, $50 for unlimited data (since the 2015 $20 increase) AND an additional $30 per month for tethering / hotspot.

Before I got my new Z30 in 2016, data on the phone was unlimited & rolled into the access / voice cost but tethering with no hotspot was $30 extra & had a 5GB limit before overage charges. So with the $20 per month price increase for unlimited data in 2015, their strategy is if they can't limit us out, they'll eventually price us out. But if there is another price increase on unlimited data, I'm done.

[BlackBerryMagnet]

New VZW commercials are lecturing about how most people don't need unlimited data or only use 2 - 3GB per month. Well, if that's the case, what's the problem with only a fraction of the other millions using extra data?

The bottom line is all about money. Their highest data plan is $450 for 100GB so the 100GB+ users are doing pretty good at only $50 per month and VZW can't stand it!

Furthermore, if all the unlimited users were paying that $450, would the use of 'excessive' bandwidth still be an issue for putting a heavy load on their network? In other words, if 100GB per user is an issue, why is it an available plan? More money!

[howarmat]

New VZW commercials are lecturing about how most people don't need unlimited data or only use 2 - 3GB per month. Well, if that's the case, what's the problem with only a fraction of the other millions using extra data?

The bottom line is all about money. Their highest data plan is $450 for 100GB (1TB) so the 100GB+ users are doing pretty good at only $50 per month and VZW can't stand it!

Furthermore, if all the unlimited users were paying that $450, would the use of 'excessive' bandwidth still be an issue for putting a heavy load on their network? In other words, if 100GB per user is an issue, why is it an available plan? More money!

100 GB is not 1TB, 1000GB is btw.

And you are right its about money! $450 goes a long way!

[bunky1971]

Like others posted...follow the money trail. $50 instead of $450.

I sit and laugh how vzw sold 300 talk/400 text plans + $30 unlimited add on years ago and gouged you going over minutes or texts. Then they claim the best fastest network but you can't use your unlimited anymore.

Unlimited doesn't mean unlimited anymore thanks to some beancounter.

For the life of me, I'd love to be able to change the definition of a word as TMO, ATT & VZW do. The one I'd really like to redefine is 'Payment Due' I'd redefine it to 'Free this month'

But....people keep paying so corporations will keep selling and changing definitions of words to suit shareholder, after all, that's all that matters in this world, the shareholders and the bottom line.

I wonder if I sat in Olive Garden for seven hours for their unlimited soup and salad, if they'd serve me until I exploded?



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[anon(4243545)]

So, there's a difference between unlimited and "unlimited".

I think that in even in the USA every unlimited plan is implicitly or explicitly subjected to a clause of fair use, and people exceeding the aforementioned 200 GB limit probably made Verizon change its mind (such limit can be considered normal for an ADSL/fibre home plan, quite not for a mobile one).

[PacmanUK1]

I personally don't see how you can use that much unless you are using it as a hotspot. To use a hotspot in the unlimited plans you were suppose to pay extra.

Other Verizon limited plans had to include the hotspot because of a deal Verizon made with the FCC when they bought additional spectrum. The old unlimited plans were excluded.

I am actually surprised they are limiting this to 200 GB. I would have thought 50 GB would be the limit. Also, remember these are customers who are now on Month to month contracts. The customer is free to leave at the end of the month and Verizon can make changes month to month.

So far this month I have used 62GB data on my Q10.. and no i do not hotspot.. I'm in the UK so things are different here

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[BlackBerryMagnet]

100 GB is not 1TB, 1000GB is btw. ...

That's correct and I removed it. But there is a person that is using a few, as in 2.7TB, in this similar thread. Hahaha

‎‎...*I wonder if I sat in Olive Garden for seven hours for their unlimited soup and salad, if they'd serve me until I exploded?‎

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Maybe so as long as you weren't filling a hidden container to take home. Most Chines‎e restaurants that have a buffet will have a scale at the register charging extra for 'to go' containers to prevent individuals, a family or a group from filling themselves & then loading up a container to go wiping out their buffet. Hahaha

So far this month I have used 62GB data on my Q10.. and no i do not hotspot. ...‎

In the last 19 days, I've used‎ 24GB but have only peaked at 30GB so far & mostly on the phone with much less by hotspot.
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So, there's a difference between unlimited and "unlimited".

I think that in even in the USA every unlimited plan is implicitly or explicitly subjected to a clause of fair use, and people exceeding the aforementioned 200 GB limit probably made Verizon change its mind (such limit can be considered normal for an ADSL/fibre home plan, quite not for a mobile one).

When I got my first Berry with unlimited data back in 2008, which was also my first exposure to mobile data use, I remember reading a warning in the TOS about service interruption for using excessive data while tethering the phone to a multi-terminal PC network with gaming used as an example and that was when 3G was new. So they knew what power users were doing back then but probably didn't realize the full impact of future internet delivery of video sharing platforms, live streaming, tv programming & full length HD movies that is using most of the bandwidth.
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[Prem WatsApp]

And Steam. And Netflix. And Hulu. And MMO's.

But that's all through our cable Internet. Most of the people using that much from a mobile device were most likely using it as their home's hotspot.

Blackberry Poptart SE - Cricket Wireless

Shhhhh.... quiet, mate... ;-D


(edit: I think I never went above 80GB, and that was a heavy Windows ISO month, afaicr)

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[BlackBerryMagnet]

I passed my record of 30GB with 36GB this past month.‎
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I spoke with Verizon yesterday, the first day of the 'new unlimited' plan, scared they were going to jack up our legacy unlimited rate again but it will stay at $50 for now.‎ One of the new plan's terms is when you reach 22GB you will be less priority than standard customers using a tower in the specific area where you are currently located.‎

There's also another term in addition to the 22GB priority cue which is a reduction to 3G speed (throttling) at 10GB but only for hotspot, not handset use.

Legacy users won't get low pr‎iority or throttling & will get full strength no matter what‎ but after passing 200GB, we get a warning letter & then disconnected if it continues.‎
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Excluding the conditional restrictions, the only great thing about the new plan is the $80 price for unlimited talk, text, data & I think hotspot / tethering is rolled into that‎ too. But who knows how long this new plan will last or if it will be grandfathered. The CSR said earlier in the day there were10K calls in the cue because of this new plan and that only upper management knew about it before it was released.‎

[spantch101]

When I spent almost a month in my car driving around the country I was streaming Netflix 16 hours a day. That month, I think I used 60 gigs or so, the most I could possibly watch and use. 200 gigs is absolutely ridiculous. This MUST be hotspot/downloading.

I don't even feel like I can do that on hardwired Internet. Though I could see a small percentage of people where broadband isn't available and they rely on 4G. But in that case, it still shouldn't be that high.

I don't feel like you did much driving if you were watching Netflix for 16 hours a day lol