1. epyon52328's Avatar
    Perhaps BlackBerry got the naming system wrong in the first place (or revised it) and the models are now as follows:
    Touch
    High End - Z30
    Mid End - Z10 (has hdmi unlike Q5, but no Miracast)
    Low End - Cafe
    Keyboard
    High End - Q10 (equivalent build to Z30 with amoled and glass weave?)
    Mid End - Q5 (equivalent build to Z10?)
    Low End - Kopi (somehow even cheaper than Q5?)

    I know there a inconsistencies (resulting from changes during rollout), but this may be the 6 models spoken of.

    To generalize the "levels'" feautres:
    High End - AMOLED, expensive build; Glass Weave, Bold Style Keyboard
    Mid End - LCD, decent Build
    Low End - LCD, cheapest build

    Posted via CB10
    I would say the Q10 would be on the same level as the Z10. So that means we're still waiting on a high end qwerty.

    Sent from my Q10
    09-16-13 11:24 AM
  2. anon(2729369)'s Avatar
    So we haven't learned anything new today, except for the fact that the altimeter is not enabled in the Z30...

    And since they seem so proud of their Paratek Antenna, it could be a reason for the relaunch of the Q5 along with a touch version. I'm wondering if they'll go Q6/Z6 or keep the Q5 name. After all it was only supposed to get released in a few countries...
    Last edited by ofutur; 09-18-13 at 11:29 AM.
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    09-18-13 09:38 AM
  3. sayf777's Avatar
    So we haven't learned anything new today, except for the fact that the altimeter is not enabled in the Z30...

    And since they seem so proud of their Paratek Antenna, it could be a reason for the relaunch of the Q5 along with a touch version. I'm wondering if they'll go Q6/Z6
    So is there an FM radio and Miracast available?

    Posted via CB10
    09-18-13 10:48 AM
  4. anon(2729369)'s Avatar
    So is there an FM radio and Miracast available?
    In which device?

    New cheap qwertys (Kopi) are going through certifications now.
    09-18-13 11:28 AM
  5. sayf777's Avatar
    In which device?

    New cheap qwertys are going through certifications now.
    Z30

    Posted via CB10
    09-18-13 11:29 AM
  6. anon(2729369)'s Avatar
    So is there an FM radio and Miracast available?

    Posted via CB10
    Apart from the alien which is the Z10, all 2013 phones have an FM radio receiver.
    Same for Miracast, except that there isn't much info on Caf�'s audio profiles yet...

    I still don't understand why they have landscape and portait audio profiles for each OUT. Maybe to pilot noise cancellation?
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    09-18-13 11:57 AM
  7. sayf777's Avatar
    Apart from the alien which is the Z10, all 2013 phones have an FM radio receiver.
    Same for Miracast, except that there isn't much info on Caf�'s audio profiles yet...

    I still don't understand why they have landscape and portait audio profiles for each OUT. Maybe to pilot noise cancellation?
    Lol thanks,

    I have no idea. :/

    Posted via CB10
    09-18-13 12:06 PM
  8. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    Apart from the alien which is the Z10, all 2013 phones have an FM radio receiver.
    Same for Miracast, except that there isn't much info on Caf�'s audio profiles yet...

    I still don't understand why they have landscape and portait audio profiles for each OUT. Maybe to pilot noise cancellation?
    Even the Q10 has FM radio reception?
    09-18-13 04:46 PM
  9. anon(2729369)'s Avatar
    Even the Q10 has FM radio reception?
    Yes, they all have the same Broadcom chip, but that doesn't mean it can be used. BlackBerry needs to expose the hardware to developers.
    09-18-13 05:24 PM
  10. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    Yes, they all have the same Broadcom chip, but that doesn't mean it can be used. BlackBerry needs to expose the hardware to developers.
    Aha. Thanks for clarifying. Wonder why BlackBerry chose Broadcom over Atheros?
    09-19-13 09:07 AM
  11. anon(2729369)'s Avatar
    Aha. Thanks for clarifying. Wonder why BlackBerry chose Broadcom over Atheros?
    Maybe because of their roadmap. They'll be faithful to Broadcom in 2014.
    09-19-13 11:34 AM
  12. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    Maybe because of their roadmap. They'll be faithful to Broadcom in 2014.
    Odd cos Qualcomm are partnered with Atheros and I remember reading an article that said Paratek preferred to work with Atheros chips.
    Things change though, time will tell.
    09-19-13 01:42 PM
  13. anon(2729369)'s Avatar
    Odd cos Qualcomm are partnered with Atheros and I remember reading an article that said Paratek preferred to work with Atheros chips.
    Things change though, time will tell.
    I should have been clearer. A lot (or possibly all) Qualcomm chipsets have Wifi/FM embedded, provided by Atheros, but only Caf�/Kopi series are using them. It's probably a cost-cutting exercise.
    09-19-13 02:33 PM
  14. theninjew's Avatar
    I'm not sure why BlackBerry is even wasting their time and efforts to release a low end device (Kopi Series) that has specs lower than the Q5. Who are they trying to impress and better yet, who would buy this device?
    09-23-13 10:20 AM
  15. BB_Bmore's Avatar
    I think they got the Q5 wrong because they needed something ASAP and so they've upgraded the platform for cheap devices and are going to be releasing the Z5 along with V2 of the Q5. There is no way this is next year's Z10/Q10 with specs like a 5MP camera...
    Sure there is a way. This is BlackBerry. They are not in the spec race.

    Sent from my HTC One running PlayBook 3.0
    09-23-13 10:23 AM
  16. anon(2729369)'s Avatar
    I've updated some of the names in AQ since Kevin and Bla1ze spilled the beans
    09-23-13 10:25 AM
  17. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    I should have been clearer. A lot (or possibly all) Qualcomm chipsets have Wifi/FM embedded, provided by Atheros, but only Caf�/Kopi series are using them. It's probably a cost-cutting exercise.
    Thank you.
    09-23-13 11:57 AM
  18. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    Sure there is a way. This is BlackBerry. They are not in the spec race.

    Sent from my HTC One running PlayBook 3.0
    They won't be in the phone race much longer if they keep pi$$ing off their customers.
    09-23-13 11:58 AM
  19. anon(5818411)'s Avatar
    I've updated some of the names in AQ since Kevin and Bla1ze spilled the beans
    Do you have a BBM Channel?

    Posted via CB10
    09-23-13 12:33 PM
  20. anon(2729369)'s Avatar
    Do you have a BBM Channel?

    Posted via CB10
    Never thought about it, but hopefully the BerryLeaks Channel will start posting updates. I'll keep you posted.
    09-23-13 12:43 PM
  21. anon(2729369)'s Avatar
    09-23-13 04:23 PM
  22. tryfe's Avatar
    I'm not sure why BlackBerry is even wasting their time and efforts to release a low end device (Kopi Series) that has specs lower than the Q5. Who are they trying to impress and better yet, who would buy this device?
    Third world countries with carriers that only sell devices outright....
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    09-23-13 05:48 PM
  23. Brutal Efficiency's Avatar
    The next BlackBerry flagship?
    Which device is this camera for?

    My Tech-Fleet: Q10; Z10; PlayBook; Surface Pro; Xbox 360; HP TouchPad; iPod Touch 5
    09-23-13 11:15 PM
  24. Marios199546's Avatar
    I've updated some of the names in AQ since Kevin and Bla1ze spilled the beans
    I think you can be more specific on the hardware side
    09-24-13 03:44 AM
  25. Marios199546's Avatar
    This is a very old sensor now....
    09-24-13 03:46 AM
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