[red72]

Erm...

http://forums.crackberry.com/news-ru...sables-901849/

Only for BES users though. Not sure how that one slipped by someone.

[collinc93]

Singing:....you've lost that loving feeling...oh that loving feeling......now its gone gone gone....

[ajst222]

Just one item....oh....DOD erases all doubt on security. Your reaching really deep if you want to go on about security......

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Just one item...are they using BES or some sort of secure enterprise server or are they connected just as any old consumer device?

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[nquyen]

I use an S3 and literally all I use it for are texting, calling ,emailing, snapchat, instagram, and a news app. BlackBerry just needed the key apps, but even that was a challenge.

[jelp2]

All BBRY needed/needs is a few more million people who don't believe any app gap exists.

That's a ridiculous statement. Are you telling me personally that there is an app gap? Are you telling me that I need more apps than what I use? Are you saying my phone doesn't serve me right everyday? Maybe there just needs to be a million less people that say there's an app gap.. or maybe just maybe, the app gap is individualized and can't be summed up in one ridiculous broad statement....just maybe.
I'm not "defending" BBRY and I'm not attacking another platform or telling you that you're an appaholic either. Your needs are yours, mine are mine.

[ajst222]

That's a ridiculous statement. Are you telling me personally that there is an app gap? Are you telling me that I need more apps than what I use? Are you saying my phone doesn't serve me right everyday? Maybe there just needs to be a million less people that say there's an app gap.. or maybe just maybe, the app gap is individualized and can't be summed up in one ridiculous broad statement....just maybe.

No, but he's saying that most people do and that's why they're not choosing BlackBerry...because it doesn't fit their needs. It's pretty clear that the vast majority relies on apps.

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[jelp2]

No, but he's saying that most people do and that's why they're not choosing BlackBerry...because it doesn't fit their needs. It's pretty clear that the vast majority relies on apps.

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That's a very good possibility, but it doesn't matter now since they're going enterprise heavy.

[JeepBB]

That's a very good possibility, but it doesn't matter now since they're going enterprise heavy.

Why doesn't it matter?

Don't many enterprises use specialist apps, often only available for iOS/Android?

Even if that app is available on android, and it works on BB's androidish runtime, are there many enterprises that look favourably on employees side loading android apps on their devices?

[avt123]

@davinci4real O boy I feel you men. These oyinbo mofo's and their 1st world problems self na wa.

And we have a racist in the thread.

Yes, it is only WHITE PEOPLE and AMERICANS who have been complaining.

[ajst222]

That's a very good possibility, but it doesn't matter now since they're going enterprise heavy.

JeepBB beat me to it! Even enterprises and business use and rely on apps that BlackBerry doesn't have, and be sure as h3ll that they aren't going to sideload. It's come to the point where it's tough BlackBerry to compete in the enterprise space because of the lack of apps

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[BobWalker]

Lol that's not why it's the best? What browser can't access billions of websites?

TechCraze C0008DDD1

What browser is as good as the BB10 browser? I'm surprised that I choose it over Chrome on my MacBook when I'm at home. I find myself using the browser instead of the app a lot, including on Crackberry. The app doesn't cut it for me.

[Tre Lawrence]

No, but he's saying that most people do and that's why they're not choosing BlackBerry...because it doesn't fit their needs. It's pretty clear that the vast majority relies on apps.

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Appreciate it. Don't know how much clearer I could be.

[ajst222]

Appreciate it. Don't know how much clearer I could be.

No problem! I don't either. STILL people are in denial about the app gap. That's great if you don't use apps and if you can survive with what BlackBerry World has to offer, but that doesn't mean everyone has to. People use apps. Bottom line.

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[Tre Lawrence]

No problem! I don't either. STILL people are in denial about the app gap. That's great if you don't use apps and if you can survive with what BlackBerry World has to offer, but that doesn't mean everyone has to. People use apps. Bottom line.

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I think anyone who looks at the situation with a modicum of logic can tell there is an issue.

As you stated, in this thread and elsewhere, it's okay that one doesn't need apps. That's normal. Different strokes.

But I respectfully think some BB10 users would be surprised to see what folks do on phones via apps, and would understand why BBRY is moving heaven and earth to fix the situation.

Third-party functionality is what sets the ecosystems apart today's market, IMHO.

[Tre Lawrence]

What browser is as good as the BB10 browser? I'm surprised that I choose it over Chrome on my MacBook when I'm at home. I find myself using the browser instead of the app a lot, including on Crackberry. The app doesn't cut it for me.

For some people who require multi-device cloud functionality, the BB10 browser might feel a bit dated.

THIS is why, IMHO, options make the platform. The browser is fantastic, but when you're clawing from behind, options become important.

I feel the same about the keyboard.

[grahamf]

I've installed a few android apps. I've deleted all except for netflix and flappy bird. I never use netflix and I might delete flappy bird eventually.

[jaydee5799]

I never chimed in on the "app gap" issues before. But I have to honestly say I am glad I have the capability to install a few Android apps to my BlackBerry. It makes it that much better! I use OnStar and SiriusXM everyday! I also have maybe 4 or 5 others. Before Android app ability, I did without. Now I don't have to. When givien a choice of native app, I choose native...iGrann instead of IG.

I'm happy and I only own one phone....a Blackberry!

[WorkStation 0]

I think those are all personal preferences and only deal breakers to you. So every car out there , well basically every everything all had to be exactly the same will all the same features or it is no good, and no one will buy it. Yep makes sense to me!

You didn't read my post did you.

[WorkStation 0]

The apps gap is alive and well. Many who have posted on this thread mention the one app that they use. That one app is enough reason not to buy a BlackBerry.

The fact that a large number of you were willing to sideload for trivial things like Netflix suggests that the population here does not reflect the average user.

I pay for Google Play all access Music service. Not available on BlackBerry. I did not buy in because it was from Google. I bought in because it was the only service that allowed me to upload 150 GB of music onto their servers. I use this service daily. If it's not available no deal.

I bank with USAA and Georgia United Federal Credit Union and have apps for both. The experience.of using these applications is far superior to a web page. For USAA I prefer the app over accessing my account on a pc.

I don't think the issue is overblown. Smartphones in general all do the same things. You can buy a device running any one of the major OS's and expect feature parity. Any platform offering less features, less compatibility/ interoperability is at a serious disadvantage. There is no need to make excuses.

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[swtnotZ10]

Pompous and prideful people (maybe a dash of arrogance) are above using the browser. After all, he did state this is 2014 and not 2005. I installed the android store app but nothing else outside of BB world...not interested. All the apps I use, I can joyfully get from BB world.

[swtnotZ10]

'Relies on apps" More like gluttons for apps because the average person doesn't use more than 5-7 apps on a regular basis. Appaholic is more true than saying "relies on apps".

No, but he's saying that most people do and that's why they're not choosing BlackBerry...because it doesn't fit their needs. It's pretty clear that the vast majority relies on apps.

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[ajst222]

'Relies on apps" More like gluttons for apps because the average person doesn't use more than 5-7 apps on a regular basis. Appaholic is more true than saying "relies on apps".

Did you do a study or are you just pulling those numbers out of no where? Besides, even if you don't use an app every day doesn't mean you don't rely on it. I rely on the PGA Tour app for example and don't check it every day. Pretty much only during tournaments. Or Netflix...I rely on it but don't use it every day. You can still use an app if it isn't even used regularly. BlackBerry doesn't have the apps. There's no way around it no matter how many excuses you make.

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[cbosdell]

I have about twenty android apps (compared to about 60 native apps) on my Z10 installed through Snap. The app gap isn't as big as people make it out to be but it does exist. Having the option to install anything I want goes a long way to keeping me happy. But if a native option exists I will always download/buy it.

[crackbrry fan]

I'm yet to download one apk app, BlackBerry world has been sufficient for me. The apps that many seem to want for me are useless. I could understand that the lack of banking or productivity apps are a pain but we need to pester our financial institutions etc to get going with those apps! I won't use Android banking apps as I have had issues with them!

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[THBW]

knighty2112,

Thanks for your comment about the Android permissions being all or nothing.

Sideloaded Snap so that I can get Android apps.

The only one that I really needed was a banking (check deposit) available as an Android app. The browser would let me check account balances, but I couldn't deposit checks!

A major reason I use BlackBerry is the security...and when an app want's access to everything (whether they need it or not) then I don't need that app.

Still keeping my Bold 9900 as my main device...and just following what the Q10 can do (now have 10.2.1 on it) for two reasons:

• trackpad (and related keys) left off Q10
• BB OS10 doesn't have Categories for contacts…and I have 5900 contacts on my 9900...need Categories

Thanks to all for the comments.

Kind regards,
George_B

Absolutely, the bull one puts up with Android is unbelievable. The vast majority of Apps don't need full access. I simply delete this garbage. Who knows where that information goes. Well if you download Angry birds on Android or Apple, it goes to the NSA or so says the New York Times.

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