1. BB10user07's Avatar
    04-10-14 06:05 AM
  2. masterful's Avatar
    Let the rumors begin

    ? Slicing using my ?
    04-10-14 06:32 AM
  3. 07thking's Avatar
    Here is the video:
    Just look at the video, and the name of it!

    http://www.reuters.com/article/video...eoId=306781595

    Photos captured using BlackBerry devices - C00016D81
    04-10-14 08:55 AM
  4. BlackBerry Guy's Avatar
    I believe Chen has since clarified what he meant in that interview.

    John Chen: BlackBerry isn't selling or leaving the handset business any time soon | CrackBerry.com

    Since you posted up the original link, what are your thoughts in the topic, BB10user07?
    04-10-14 09:38 AM
  5. crackbrry fan's Avatar
    BlackBerry can't exit the hardware business if they truly want to offer an end to end solution. I think what Chen was pandering to Wall Street, who believes that BlackBerry should dump handsets. The handsets business is necessary and even if they pull out of it, they will have to license another manufacturer to continue production of devices,perhaps not for the consumer market meaning not going head to head with the likes of Apple and Samsung/Android devices but certainly for the Business side.

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    04-10-14 12:32 PM
  6. Ment's Avatar
    I would agree with that. Leaving the handset business is leaving the high cost low margin consumer business. BB will always have a handset for enterprise even if its just a Blackberry rebadge of an existing design at Foxconn.
    04-10-14 12:43 PM
  7. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    BlackBerry can't exit the hardware business if they truly want to offer an end to end solution.
    But here's where that argument falls short: they are positioning BES10/12 as a secure MDM/EDM solution for Android, iOS, and WinPhone (in addition to BB phones, of course), so, in effect, BB is saying that BES + other OSs = secure (enough for regulated enterprises, anyway). If that's true, why should businesses buy BB phones? And if it's not true, why should businesses buy BES?

    No one has ever tried to explain this contradiction.
    04-10-14 12:50 PM
  8. crackbrry fan's Avatar
    But here's where that argument falls short: they are positioning BES10/12 as a secure MDM/EDM solution for Android, iOS, and WinPhone (in addition to BB phones, of course), so, in effect, BB is saying that BES + other OSs = secure (enough for regulated enterprises, anyway). If that's true, why should businesses buy BB phones? And if it's not true, why should businesses buy BES?

    No one has ever tried to explain this contradiction.
    That is the thing ,they can only make those other devices as secure as they can be, case in point the heart bleed virus, it will NOT be as secure as having BlackBerry handsets but the idea of offering BES on other platforms is to continue offering a secure business solution on those platforms Samsung knows Knox is a joke and Apple as well can't secure the business aspects of their devices as well as BES. I suspect it would operate on a system that currently exists such as balance on BlackBerry 10.

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    Last edited by crackbrry fan; 04-10-14 at 07:57 PM.
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    04-10-14 12:59 PM
  9. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    But here's where that argument falls short: they are positioning BES10/12 as a secure MDM/EDM solution for Android, iOS, and WinPhone (in addition to BB phones, of course), so, in effect, BB is saying that BES + other OSs = secure (enough for regulated enterprises, anyway). If that's true, why should businesses buy BB phones? And if it's not true, why should businesses buy BES?

    No one has ever tried to explain this contradiction.
    If you only look at the security aspect, Troy has a bit of a point, but you can't lock down the other OSes the way you can lock down a BB10 phone with Balance.

    Just add the productivity benefits etc, and it becomes clear why someone should still buy BB phones, despite MDM for other platforms.

    "No Q10?" -> "Buy from Chen... "
    04-10-14 07:40 PM
  10. cgk's Avatar

    Just add the productivity benefits etc,

    "No Q10?" -> "Buy from Chen... "
    That argument was lost years ago, it's actually a negative now because when you try and convince highly productive people that they are deluded because they can't really be productive with an iphone/android you push them away. now you might say that *you* are more productive with it, that's fine but outside of individual preference it provides no sales advantage.
    04-11-14 02:10 AM

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