Things the iPhone can't do this holiday with the family
- That's the thing, I didn't see any of the locals using their phones to pay. It was credit cards all the way. Granted I wasn't standing there carefully counting (not going to risk getting booted out as a weirdo by the only place that took my US credit card!) so while a nice feature to have, it doesn't seem to be that important to most phone users. I should also note that Asia has always been very progressive about doing things monetary via phone but the iPhone is very popular in Korea and Japan despite no NFC. This suggests alternatives to NFC are successful, possibly. I should ask my cousin how payment by phone works there.
Apple is way late to the game for mobile commerce outside of the USA, and will fail if they try to bring to the market a proprietary solution that does not leverage existing global infrastructure standards. Same for Google Wallet. And if the US financial institutions go a different direction, 300 million americans won't be enough to change standards vs. 1 billion plus consumers in the EU, Asia Pacific and other countries that are already well down another path...01-03-14 11:54 AMLike 0 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry WizardForget iPhone users, it's more of a problem for American credit card users at large. I have not yet found a CC provider willing to provide a chip card. It was a huge pain for me in the Netherlands during a business trip, and the reason why Starbucks got most of my business (one of the very few places that allowed non-chip cards although foo on them for not allowing payment through their app)
Also, could a phone be used in place of CC at all these units? All the places had a slide-in slot for the chip card. I didn't see anyone tap a card or use a phone.
Tap to pay isn't that widespread in the UK; have yet to see someone paying with their phone.TGR1 likes this.01-04-14 02:33 AMLike 1 - Forget iPhone users, it's more of a problem for American credit card users at large. I have not yet found a CC provider willing to provide a chip card. It was a huge pain for me in the Netherlands during a business trip, and the reason why Starbucks got most of my business (one of the very few places that allowed non-chip cards although foo on them for not allowing payment through their app)
Also, could a phone be used in place of CC at all these units? All the places had a slide-in slot for the chip card. I didn't see anyone tap a card or use a phone.
Posted via CB1001-04-14 11:28 AMLike 0 - Can't say for sure, but generally most chip accepting machines also allow tap to pay. Your problem would be that even if the store accepted NFC payments, your carrier & your bank would also need to allow it. The US is just so far behind when it comes to banking. I remember being in the US in the 90's and having issues because lots of places didn't even have interac. This meant I had to be sure to carry $ around with me wherever I went.
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It's odd though why the US is so slow to push through chip cards given the insanely high level of credit card fraud.01-04-14 11:54 AMLike 0 -
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IROC-Z10 But Mostly She Rocks Me!01-04-14 08:45 PMLike 0 - Your right there BlackBerry doesn't but it's a standard hdmi connection. None of the oh, sorry you have to buy a cable that costs an additional 79.99 from apple. BlackBerry devices are actually serviced when they break down. But apple just chucks defective devices in the trash. And yet were stuck paying the eco recycle fees on all these products (electronics in general). It should be the manufactors paying this. There the ones filling up the landfills with their cheap junk!
IROC-Z10 But Mostly She Rocks Me!mornhavon likes this.01-04-14 10:00 PMLike 1 - I was told that some of the issues also involved reluctance to license the tech (hardware? Software?) Don't know if it's true but it may that without a strong consumer demand there isn't pressure for the vendors to cough up such fees. I wonder if that is also why those special SIMs are not common.
It's odd though why the US is so slow to push through chip cards given the insanely high level of credit card fraud.
Posted via CB10TGR1 likes this.01-04-14 10:06 PMLike 1 - Let me see if I understand: if my BlackBerry breaks down it gets shipped off somewhere to be repaired, and I have to do without it for days or weeks while it's gone, but if my iPhone breaks down, I take it to the Apple Store and they give me a brand new one, and you're saying Apple's the one that's not doing it right?
Apple chucks the old iPhone in the trash and gives you a new one. BlackBerry takes it in for repair.
So it becomes a question of priorities. Would you rather wait for your device to be repaired or immediately get a replacement?01-04-14 11:02 PMLike 0 - Is there proof of this? It seems bizarre in a world where even badly damaged Apple devices are worth something. Are you sure they don't repair the damaged device and sell it as refurbished/used or sell/strip the damaged units?
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I'd much rather immediately get a replacement.01-05-14 12:05 AMLike 0 -
What's the name of the company that recycles the iPhones?
I clicked on the links and they sent me to non descriptive happy Apple web pages. Not to be a stick in the mud, but I'd prefer more detail.
I salute your honesty.01-05-14 12:10 AMLike 0 - Is there proof of this? It seems bizarre in a world where even badly damaged Apple devices are worth something. Are you sure they don't repair the damaged device and sell it as refurbished/used or sell/strip the damaged units?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using CB Forums mobile app01-05-14 12:11 AMLike 0 - According to Apple's FAQ page, a company called "PowerON Services" administers their recycling program, and a company called "Sims Recycling Solutions" actually does the recycling.
Interestingly, if you have an old computer you want to get rid of, even if it's not an Apple computer, Apple will recycle it for you at no charge. They'll even pay the shipping for you to send it to them.01-05-14 12:24 AMLike 0 -
They are required for Isis and Google Wallet for the reasons you said (the secure element).
Sent from my iPhone 5S using Tapatalk01-05-14 12:41 AMLike 2 - According to Apple's FAQ page, a company called "PowerON Services" administers their recycling program, and a company called "Sims Recycling Solutions" actually does the recycling.
Interestingly, if you have an old computer you want to get rid of, even if it's not an Apple computer, Apple will recycle it for you at no charge. They'll even pay the shipping for you to send it to them.
Maybe we should make this a public venture, and see how it plays out?
I'm game. I personally am curious either way. You? We could start a thread about it. I'm totally in!01-05-14 01:02 AMLike 0 -
- Let me see if I understand: if my BlackBerry breaks down it gets shipped off somewhere to be repaired, and I have to do without it for days or weeks while it's gone, but if my iPhone breaks down, I take it to the Apple Store and they give me a brand new one, and you're saying Apple's the one that's not doing it right?
Posted via CB10app_Developer and CerveloJohn like this.01-05-14 05:21 AMLike 2 - According to Apple's FAQ page, a company called "PowerON Services" administers their recycling program, and a company called "Sims Recycling Solutions" actually does the recycling.
Interestingly, if you have an old computer you want to get rid of, even if it's not an Apple computer, Apple will recycle it for you at no charge. They'll even pay the shipping for you to send it to them.
Posted via CB1001-05-14 05:27 AMLike 0 - What if I told you that things we call "trash" are a real, sustainable and worthwhile business for companies? It just depends on scale, processing, infrastructure and connections. It's just about resources. You'rd happy to get rid of the 'trash', Apple makes money with it. This isn't 'service' by any means.
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ser�vice (s�rvs)
n.
1.
a. Employment in duties or work for another, as for a government: has been in the company's service for 15 years.
b. A government branch or department and its employees: the diplomatic service.
2.
a. The armed forces of a nation: joined the service right after college.
b. A branch of the armed forces of a nation.
3. The performance of work or duties for a superior or as a servant: found the butler's service to be excellent.
4.
a. Work done for others as an occupation or business: has done service for us as a consultant.
b. An act or a variety of work done for others, especially for pay: offers a superior service to that of his competitors; provides full catering services.
5. A department or branch of a hospital staff that provides specified patient care: the anesthesiology service.
6. Installation, maintenance, or repairs provided or guaranteed by a dealer or manufacturer: a dealer with full parts and service.
7. A facility providing the public with the use of something, such as water or transportation.
8.
a. Assistance; help: was of great service to him during his illness.
b. An act of assistance or benefit; a favor: My friend did me a service in fixing the door.
Pick one that applies.01-05-14 06:48 AMLike 0 - Ridicolous the ends people go to discredit something.
ser�vice (s�rvs)
n.
1.
a. Employment in duties or work for another, as for a government: has been in the company's service for 15 years.
b. A government branch or department and its employees: the diplomatic service.
2.
a. The armed forces of a nation: joined the service right after college.
b. A branch of the armed forces of a nation.
3. The performance of work or duties for a superior or as a servant: found the butler's service to be excellent.
4.
a. Work done for others as an occupation or business: has done service for us as a consultant.
b. An act or a variety of work done for others, especially for pay: offers a superior service to that of his competitors; provides full catering services.
5. A department or branch of a hospital staff that provides specified patient care: the anesthesiology service.
6. Installation, maintenance, or repairs provided or guaranteed by a dealer or manufacturer: a dealer with full parts and service.
7. A facility providing the public with the use of something, such as water or transportation.
8.
a. Assistance; help: was of great service to him during his illness.
b. An act of assistance or benefit; a favor: My friend did me a service in fixing the door.
Pick one that applies.
The guy is running this business beside his farm. He drives a Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder, because he found his Porsche 911 was too slow.01-05-14 08:14 AMLike 0 - Not exactly. The "brand new" phone you get in exchange is a phone that broke down for another guy weeks ago and got refurbished. The broken down iPhone you bring to the Apple store to get it exchanged also gets repaired and refurbished and 4 weeks later another guy will get it as "brand new" in exchange for his broken iPhone.
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