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  1. BCITMike's Avatar
    The US television show TMZ reported yesterday the Los Angeles County Sheriff's department has tried for a week to access Justin Bieber's phone but has been unable to. While the graphics for the report showed an iPhone, they never actually said what phone it is. Does anyone know? I remember some threads here on CB claiming he is a BlackBerry fan.
    This sounds like bs. If they had a warrant, Bieber would have to give up the password. If they didn't get a warrant, that's trespassing. They can only search your phone without warrant if no password set.

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    01-24-14 03:20 PM
  2. BCITMike's Avatar
    Secure is a relative term. ....you are responsible for securing your phone...not apple.....blackberry. ..or Google.

    Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!
    That's not right. You are not provided deep enough access to guarantee your security yourself.

    Posted via CB10
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    01-24-14 03:21 PM
  3. Kobe Barksdale's Avatar
    This thread is like asking if the prius really saves gas compared to a Bugatti. Smdfh!

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    01-24-14 03:23 PM
  4. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    This sounds like bs. If they had a warrant, Bieber would have to give up the password. If they didn't get a warrant, that's trespassing. They can only search your phone without warrant if no password set.

    Posted via CB10
    I'm curios, why do they need yo get into his phone?


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    01-24-14 03:37 PM
  5. Playbook007's Avatar
    When used with a BES and perhaps even that special SD card like the Germans have. Otherwise its pretty much like any other system when it is not.
    Iphones can be cracked into pass their lock screen in minutes. The police crack iphones, androids all the time. Even the latest thumb lock lock on the iphone was bypassed in no time. Iphone users have no business preaching security to anyone on any level. You have all the apps, all the games, all the expensive add ons, the great marketing schemes for the clueless, the ability to sell the same device....what 7 times to the same individual?, your walled garden, ......but you don't have security like BlackBerry does. Hey, don't ask me, ask the DOD!

    Posted via CB10
    01-24-14 03:42 PM
  6. nucks26's Avatar
    Completely more secure

    Posted via CB10 for Z10
    01-24-14 04:52 PM
  7. SmellWhole's Avatar
    This sounds like bs. If they had a warrant, Bieber would have to give up the password. If they didn't get a warrant, that's trespassing. They can only search your phone without warrant if no password set.
    First, the story claims the Sheriff is considering a warrant to force him to give the password ...
    If this is true, it's a thoroughly ridiculous attempt. In America, one cannot be compelled to give a password even with a warrant:

    "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." (Fifth Amendment. State constitutions often have even stronger protections.)

    Police can get a warrant to search your property, but they can't make you help them. This includes your phone. They can get a warrant, use any means they have available to search it, but they can't make you help them. (Other constitutional issues are raised also e.g. the right not to be a slave, etc.)
    01-24-14 05:27 PM
  8. stackberry369's Avatar
    That's not right. You are not provided deep enough access to guarantee your security yourself.

    Posted via CB10
    It's your responsibility not to leave your phone laying around where it can be stolen.,downloading unauthorized apps to your phone.

    Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!
    01-24-14 11:14 PM
  9. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    It's your responsibility not to leave your phone laying around where it can be stolen.,downloading unauthorized apps to your phone.

    Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!
    It's your responsibility to lock a door with a key.
    If the door and key are sold as "
    'secure' one shouldn't enter under a certain amount of time. In the real world that's 'secure enough', for real.

    With computers and mobile devices, while most have been sold like house doors, this so untrue. Once you've set a password on your device, it should be as safe as your (online) bank account. Because it is now the exact equivalent.

    You can claim 'I'm not willing to pay the price ', neither with decent habits nor with the choice of a device that can be broken with a technique you find on YT... But then, your device is just not secure. Half measurement isn't valid: it is or it isn't.
    Due to possible vocabulary choice error, I would like to precise that once you're in the "secure category", withdifferent levels. BlackBerry is close to the highest one, actually the highest for individuals available products.

    Posted via CB10
    01-25-14 03:28 AM
  10. stackberry369's Avatar
    It's your responsibility to lock a door with a key.
    If the door and key are sold as "
    'secure' one shouldn't enter under a certain amount of time. In the real world that's 'secure enough', for real.

    With computers and mobile devices, while most have been sold like house doors, this so untrue. Once you've set a password on your device, it should be as safe as your (online) bank account. Because it is now the exact equivalent.

    You can claim 'I'm not willing to pay the price ', neither with decent habits nor with the choice of a device that can be broken with a technique you find on YT... But then, your device is just not secure. Half measurement isn't valid: it is or it isn't.
    Due to possible vocabulary choice error, I would like to precise that once you're in the "secure category", withdifferent levels. BlackBerry is close to the highest one, actually the highest for individuals available products.

    Posted via CB10
    Nothing in this world is fail proof.

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    01-25-14 03:43 AM
  11. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    Nothing in this world is fail proof.

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    Sure not, but some are fail by design ...
    01-25-14 05:38 AM
  12. Omnitech's Avatar
    how bad is it for yahoo?

    Yahoo email on a BB10 device will get new message notifications at the same frequency as you set your polling-time, which has a minimum period of every 15 minutes.

    There are 3rd-party apps that can shorten the polling-time (example: Color LED Message by Toysoft), but battery life will suffer if you poll for email very frequently.

    For what it's worth, neither Apple iOS, nor Android, nor Windows Phone support that proprietary Yahoo push mechanism either, in their native email client. Only Apple does right now.

    On the flipside, Apple iOS does not support IMAP IDLE push, which is actually a much bigger problem because a very large number of email providers use that form of push email.
    Superfly_FR and Acidwire like this.
    01-25-14 09:33 AM
  13. SmellWhole's Avatar
    BlackBerry Legacy BBOS handsets gets yahoo email instantly. BIS has the capability.
    01-25-14 09:35 AM
  14. Omnitech's Avatar
    Nothing in this world is fail proof.

    Especially your logic fail. Like this:


    Secure is a relative term. ....you are responsible for securing your phone...not apple.....blackberry. ..or Google.



    There are some things users of products have control over, and some things they don't. We are not talking about the things people do have control over here.

    Hope that helps.
    Superfly_FR likes this.
    01-25-14 09:37 AM
  15. Omnitech's Avatar
    BlackBerry Legacy BBOS handsets gets yahoo email instantly. BIS has the capability.

    Yes, that is one of the few advantages of BIS at the moment.
    01-25-14 09:39 AM
  16. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    Yes, that is one of the few advantages of BIS at the moment.
    What about gmail?


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    01-25-14 10:36 AM
  17. Omnitech's Avatar
    What about gmail?

    Gmail works better on BB10.

    There are also some handy BB10 apps for Gmail that provide even more features.
    01-25-14 12:42 PM
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