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  1. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    Yeah, I also get no signal at my home -- but T-Mo wifi-calling is perfect.
    A lot depends on the phone as well, some phones have fantastic range to tower others do not. This also happens within the same type of phone. All I can say is AT&T is over priced and customer service is horrible.
    03-30-21 09:58 AM
  2. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    Lol... Can't count how many times I've heard "you need to upgrade...". Ug. I typically reply I'd sure like to UP grade... Once someone offers an UPgrade that genuinely improves on, or at least retains, existing productivity. UpDATE to a DOWNgrade is no UPgrade! Imo. Lol.

    What sort of provision does TMo offer to impede spam/telemarketing calls? I'm SOoo sick of "your warrantee is about to expire" calls! WHAT are those ppl's game? If they want to warrant my 21 year old, 830,000 mile F350... Let's get started! Lol. If I ever considered an extended warranty, I certainly will NOT interact with such low lifes... Lol.

    Many of those calls counterfeit local exchanges, etc. The carrier that truly, absolutely positively, caller I.D.'s the REAL phone # will earn life long loyalty by me.
    T Mobile now has a spam blocker so far it seems to work as advertised, I will let you know in about a month my thoughts.
    03-30-21 10:01 AM
  3. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    A lot depends on the phone as well, some phones have fantastic range to tower others do not. This also happens within the same type of phone. All I can say is AT&T is over priced and customer service is horrible.
    I think Verizon is overpriced and their customer service isn't all that great.... but where I live, work and play they have the coverage I need. So I pay more for the coverage I want.
    03-30-21 10:03 AM
  4. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    I think Verizon is overpriced and their customer service isn't all that great.... but where I live, work and play they have the coverage I need. So I pay more for the coverage I want.
    Hey that's whats great about being free, I was with AT&T from the very beginning. Phones with 1 hour talk time, briefcase in size. Always had good service as a corporate user, than the changes started. Service went down hill, I phone 8 11 and 12s bounced for not being network ready. Many calls back and forth resetting the phones and poof a few days latter phones not working again. Hey in the end if it work, for me never again.
    03-30-21 10:08 AM
  5. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Here’s an interesting T-Mobile article from another site

    https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/0...nd-pixel-fans/
    03-30-21 07:20 PM
  6. hispanicman15's Avatar
    A lot depends on the phone as well, some phones have fantastic range to tower others do not. This also happens within the same type of phone. All I can say is AT&T is over priced and customer service is horrible.
    I've had good experiences with their customer service, but it's the actual service that leaves itself to be desired. For example, unbranded devices are hardly supported for VoLTE and wi-fi calling. They have a list of what looked like 20 devices that were compatible with those services if unbranded. What a joke. I might go give VZW a try next.
    03-30-21 11:45 PM
  7. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    I've had good experiences with their customer service, but it's the actual service that leaves itself to be desired. For example, unbranded devices are hardly supported for VoLTE and wi-fi calling. They have a list of what looked like 20 devices that were compatible with those services if unbranded. What a joke. I might go give VZW a try next.
    You’ll find a VZW requirement that factory unlocked device must be certified by VZW to officially be approved for use on their 4G LTE network. It’s a similar but what seems to be a smaller list of their OEM partners like the AT&T list. The reality is that when it comes to factory unlocked devices, especially 5G devices, all three carriers don’t want your business if you aren’t purchasing the device from them. It all seems legal so I’m not sure the solution. I also don’t see advantage of factory unlocked on 5G yet since the 5G protocols aren’t uniform.
    03-31-21 06:34 AM
  8. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    You’ll find a VZW requirement that factory unlocked device must be certified by VZW to officially be approved for use on their 4G LTE network. It’s a similar but what seems to be a smaller list of their OEM partners like the AT&T list. The reality is that when it comes to factory unlocked devices, especially 5G devices, all three carriers don’t want your business if you aren’t purchasing the device from them. It all seems legal so I’m not sure the solution. I also don’t see advantage of factory unlocked on 5G yet since the 5G protocols aren’t uniform.
    T-Mobile has no issues with 5G unlocked phones, we have many unlocked phones and have experienced no issues at all. Verizon has always been a company phone/network. AT&T cannot keep any non company phone on network for more than a few days. With the money and fake fees they charge I say good luck to them.
    03-31-21 08:06 AM
  9. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    T-Mobile has no issues with 5G unlocked phones, we have many unlocked phones and have experienced no issues at all. Verizon has always been a company phone/network. AT&T cannot keep any non company phone on network for more than a few days. With the money and fake fees they charge I say good luck to them.
    Beyond the usual 2-3 OEMs that are their major carrier locked partners, I’m not sure 5G is really available for many of the BYOD crowd. I’ll trust what any company is only willing to put in writing...

    https://www.t-mobile.com/support/dev...ice-byod-guide

    Per their own website currently, their BYOD strategy is aimed still at 4G with even that having caveats galore. The Sprint merger tightened up the BYOD side in order to keep customers used to buying only carrier locked devices in the same behavior mode. Remember, 50% approximately of their current base was happy with Sprint/TMO pricing and carrier locked devices pre-merger and that would be stupid to break if not broken. Will it be relaxed, who knows, but TMO isn’t going to leave money laying on the ground with it’s ginormous debt load.
    03-31-21 01:30 PM
  10. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    Beyond the usual 2-3 OEMs that are their major carrier locked partners, I’m not sure 5G is really available for many of the BYOD crowd. I’ll trust what any company is only willing to put in writing...

    https://www.t-mobile.com/support/dev...ice-byod-guide

    Per their own website currently, their BYOD strategy is aimed still at 4G with even that having caveats galore. The Sprint merger tightened up the BYOD side in order to keep customers used to buying only carrier locked devices in the same behavior mode. Remember, 50% approximately of their current base was happy with Sprint/TMO pricing and carrier locked devices pre-merger and that would be stupid to break if not broken. Will it be relaxed, who knows, but TMO isn’t going to leave money laying on the ground with it’s ginormous debt load.
    For regular customers on T Mobile there is no change or up charge. The other thing is the parent company sets the rules and in Germany its customer service first. There will be changes but not that many as the parent will not allow it.
    03-31-21 03:03 PM
  11. pdr733's Avatar
    Will it be relaxed, who knows, but TMO isn’t going to leave money laying on the ground with it’s ginormous debt load.
    Asking as an outsider : do US carriers make that much money on devices, or mainly use them to reduce churn? (or improve subsriber numbers with new user promo's)
    What I saw you pay off the device in 24 or 30 installments, so it assumes that you will be a customer of the carrier until you pay off, unless you pay off early, but many ppl finance several devices at the same time on multiline accounts, and may not have the funds to pay all of them off early.
    Or do you have to enter into a 24 or 30 month commitment for service as well? (with financial penalty if you terminate the contract early)
    03-31-21 03:42 PM
  12. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    Asking as an outsider : do US carriers make that much money on devices, or mainly use them to reduce churn? (or improve subsriber numbers with new user promo's)
    What I saw you pay off the device in 24 or 30 installments, so it assumes that you will be a customer of the carrier until you pay off, unless you pay off early, but many ppl finance several devices at the same time on multiline accounts, and may not have the funds to pay all of them off early.
    Or do you have to enter into a 24 or 30 month commitment for service as well? (with financial penalty if you terminate the contract early)
    They make some cash as a reseller, but the real profit is people get stuck on network and cannot move. AT&T who my company was with from the very beginning was a great company for customer service and overall services. We had over 250 phones on account and never had any issues when changing out a phone. Just slap in the SIM and the network would pick it up. We have BlackBerry Priv/Keyone/Keytwo/Apple8/11/12. All phones worked fine than the update. Poof phones knocked off network. Days spend fixing the problem than back again. Finally a move to T Mobile and never looked back.
    the_boon and bh7171 like this.
    03-31-21 05:46 PM
  13. hispanicman15's Avatar
    You’ll find a VZW requirement that factory unlocked device must be certified by VZW to officially be approved for use on their 4G LTE network. It’s a similar but what seems to be a smaller list of their OEM partners like the AT&T list. The reality is that when it comes to factory unlocked devices, especially 5G devices, all three carriers don’t want your business if you aren’t purchasing the device from them. It all seems legal so I’m not sure the solution. I also don’t see advantage of factory unlocked on 5G yet since the 5G protocols aren’t uniform.
    Interesting. I planned on going to a store tomorrow. I'll see what happens, thanks for the heads up!
    03-31-21 10:23 PM
  14. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    Interesting. I planned on going to a store tomorrow. I'll see what happens, thanks for the heads up!
    T Mobile has no issues with unlocked 5 G phones.
    04-01-21 04:18 PM
  15. hispanicman15's Avatar
    T Mobile has no issues with unlocked 5 G phones.
    Verizon ran my IMEI and didn't recommend me to be on their networks. I told them that was fair, so I'm back on T-Mobile for the time being. I couldn't stand not being able to receive the text messages that I don't read and the phone calls I don't answer any longer.

    Apparently I missed 3 things that friends were trying to plan for the weekend lol. Oh well.
    04-03-21 08:28 PM
  16. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    We have well over 90 phones all unlocked all working fine on T Mobile. Its a setting with your phone and how it interfaces with the network.
    04-04-21 09:49 AM
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