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  1. donwuan's Avatar
    1% though. Thats just a crazy percentage.
    04-02-14 11:55 PM
  2. birdman_38's Avatar
    T-mo has a US user base of 46.7 Million. As quoted in the tweet, 1+% (using a + seems odd, no?) this amounts to approximately half a million subscribers. That is a substantial amount of income for any company, even if its not a majority.

    The more you give up on 1% of your user base the smaller that user base becomes until 1% of your userbase is the same as 100% of your user base. If you don't follow, if you treat your customers wrong and give up on them, eventually you'll have no customers left.
    Are you referring to T-Mobile? Or BlackBerry?

    Also I'm still waiting on Dave Bourque's answer to my question.
    04-03-14 12:00 AM
  3. A895's Avatar
    I disagree wholeheartedly as stated and explained numerous times now.




    LOL, of course it does. Trying to claim that one should take a course of action to help an entity that you don't care if they die or not has a large impact on one's credibility when one claims to be on someone's or some company's side or not.

    Yanno, just like Legere keeps trying to claim that he just lurrrrrvs Blackberry customers. As If.

    If people take everything they are ever told at face-value, sooner or later they're going to get hurt.




    Perhaps if you spend too much time catting around Crackberry platform advocacy threads it distorts your perspective on that.




    SOME may indeed be doing that, but you do your credibility no favors by making silly sweeping statements like that. Life is just not that simple.


    Speaking of credibility, this doesn't exactly dispel any stereotypes either:



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    What does my device have to do with the conversation? Mobile Nations is open to all, or was there a policy change recently? It goes to show when someone runs out of things to say they switch topics or try to derail the conversation like you are doing.

    Sent from my XT1060 using Mobile Nations mobile app
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    04-03-14 12:06 AM
  4. DJM626's Avatar
    BlackBerry seems to be focusing on AT&T and Verizon, but mostly Verizon.
    Good, because I am on Verizon and with BB! More for us
    04-03-14 12:08 AM
  5. Omnitech's Avatar
    What does my device have to do with the conversation? Mobile Nations is open to all, or was there a policy change recently? It goes to show when someone runs out of things to say they switch topics or try to derail the conversation like you are doing.

    Stop twisting my statements and playing the victim.

    Did I tell you you had no permission to post here? Let me answer that for you: emphatically NO.

    I did say that certain things did not "dispel any stereotypes".

    It's important to me when I'm engaging with people in a debate to ascertain whether they and their arguments are credible or not.

    When I see people who persistently criticize a platform, and I see them using consistently questionable "logic", and I see them persistently ignoring things that undermine their stance, and finally when I see that they are actually partial to a competitor's platform, all of those things factor-in to whether I consider their points sincere and credible or not.

    That is all. I sincerely hope you continue to post, as will I.
    04-03-14 12:57 AM
  6. birdman_38's Avatar
    Stop twisting my statements and playing the victim.
    He wasn't doing that at all. You straight up attacked him for his choice of device.
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    04-03-14 01:01 AM
  7. anon3700711's Avatar
    I dare him to send a similar email convincing Apple users to switch to a Samsung Galaxy and see how Apple responds.

    Maybe he's still upset about the AT&T buying T-Mobile deal falling through.
    04-03-14 01:04 AM
  8. Omnitech's Avatar
    I dare him to send a similar email convincing Apple users to switch to a Samsung Galaxy and see how Apple responds.
    Heh. That's precisely what I've suggested before.

    They would have Apple attorneys on their corporate *ss in a New York Minute.
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    04-03-14 01:50 AM
  9. Omnitech's Avatar
    You straight up attacked him for his choice of device.

    Nope, but thanks for playing.

    I know it might be hard to grasp, but I use all sorts of products myself, including Apple and Android-based ones. Gasp!!

    So no, I don't just "attack people for their choice of device".

    I do however sometimes question the sincerity and/or objectivity of perennial platform critics who unsurprisingly seem to be fairly wedded to one of the competitor's products/ecosystem.

    Especially when they claim to be concerned that some course of action will "make BlackBerry look bad".
    04-03-14 01:54 AM
  10. alludba's Avatar
    I'm leaving T-Mobile. Trying to decide between Verizon and AT&T.
    04-03-14 03:04 AM
  11. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    @JohnLegere now showing late love to BlackBerry clients ? Ah ... #moneyLove
    04-03-14 03:13 AM
  12. Omnitech's Avatar
    LOL that dude spends WAY too much time twittering.. I sure hope someone's doing it on his behalf rather than him coming up with a bunch of dumb 140-char platitudes all day, day after day..
    04-03-14 03:32 AM
  13. yessuz's Avatar
    I see your point but let me ask u, why is it that when people come to crackberry and complain about a certain device and have a legit complaint. People say that they shouldve done their research on the device and they would've known what they were getting, yet that same principle doesn't apply when they are going into the store to buy a BB. It's not hard for people to find out that although the company is in bad shape, they aren't going out of business. Regardless of what they were told, they still had the choice of leaving or staying with the platform. I was asked at least three times if I wanted to trade in my Z10 when I switched over to Tmobile....guess what....still got my lovely white Z10 lol

    Posted via CB10
    aghm...

    Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her

    in other words - show me the platform without problems
    04-03-14 04:17 AM
  14. DaSchwantz's Avatar
    But, as pointed out previously, nothing he's said has been false.
    He said 90% of people 'switched' but in reality all they had to do was find some old BlackBerry device from a friend to trade back in order to get the discount. The memo was therefore a false or misleading statement.

    Posted via CB10
    04-03-14 05:16 AM
  15. A895's Avatar
    Stop twisting my statements and playing the victim.

    Did I tell you you had no permission to post here? Let me answer that for you: emphatically NO.

    I did say that certain things did not "dispel any stereotypes".

    It's important to me when I'm engaging with people in a debate to ascertain whether they and their arguments are credible or not.

    When I see people who persistently criticize a platform, and I see them using consistently questionable "logic", and I see them persistently ignoring things that undermine their stance, and finally when I see that they are actually partial to a competitor's platform, all of those things factor-in to whether I consider their points sincere and credible or not.

    That is all. I sincerely hope you continue to post, as will I.
    I am being fair. I have been a fan of BlackBerry for years. Its only until recently in light of recent developments that I am beginning to question that fanboyism. I am not a blind fan I know the shortcoming of BlackBerry and the shortcoming of the OS. I only use Android because it fits my needs more than other operating systems. I strongly considering WP now because of the WP8.1 announcement.

    Sent from my XT1060 using Mobile Nations mobile app
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    04-03-14 05:27 AM
  16. A895's Avatar
    Nope, but thanks for playing.

    I know it might be hard to grasp, but I use all sorts of products myself, including Apple and Android-based ones. Gasp!!

    So no, I don't just "attack people for their choice of device".

    I do however sometimes question the sincerity and/or objectivity of perennial platform critics who unsurprisingly seem to be fairly wedded to one of the competitor's products/ecosystem.

    Especially when they claim to be concerned that some course of action will "make BlackBerry look bad".
    No one is wedded to one device. If you asked, instead of assuming you would know I use primarily Microsoft services and not Googles. And I use primarily Microsoft services on Android. Or you could have asked me "is there sincerity to what you have previously stated?". Direct attacking instead of just asking is not a good look.

    Sent from my XT1060 using Mobile Nations mobile app
    04-03-14 05:31 AM
  17. Doggerz's Avatar
    I'm leaving T-Mobile. Trying to decide between Verizon and AT&T.
    If Verizon was GSM I would consider them. But AT&T is a nickel and dimer ripoff.

    I get angry just thinking how corrupt AT&T is. But if you don't mind not being able to travel outside the country with your phone and don't mind the huge price tag then I consider Verizon the lesser of two evils. They are also most likely to keep BlackBerry longer than AT&T who despises BlackBerry. Sprint is just a joke.

    I'll just stick with T-Mobile where I get a fair price and can bring any unlocked phone.

    Choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil. - Jerry Garcia.

    via CB10 using a Z10 / STL100-3 / RFK121LW / 10.2.1.2234 / T-Mobile USA
    04-03-14 05:39 AM
  18. homer1475's Avatar
    If Verizon was GSM I would consider them. But AT&T is a nickel and dimer ripoff.

    I get angry just thinking how corrupt AT&T is. But if you don't mind not being able to travel outside the country with your phone and don't mind the huge price tag then I consider Verizon the lesser of two evils. They are also most likely to keep BlackBerry longer than AT&T who despises BlackBerry. Sprint is just a joke.

    I'll just stick with T-Mobile where I get a fair price and can bring any unlocked phone.

    Choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil. - Jerry Garcia.

    via CB10 using a Z10 / STL100-3 / RFK121LW / 10.2.1.2234 / T-Mobile USA
    ? Huh?....
    I travel outside the country on occasion and have 0 problem making calls, sending txt messages, or sending or receiving data( I do pay for international roaming). On the occasion I'm going to be spending a long time internationally, I have my Z10 unlocked directly from AT&T for... wait for it... 0$. I called them up and asked for an unlock code, that simple(i have been a customer for over 20 years).

    On a side note, I have 4 family members who use big red as their carrier, they have a smaller data cap, and crappier coverage(least where I live) for about 50$ more a month. Its also funny how in my area of the country, I can walk into any AT&T store to find several BB's on display(z10, Q10, and yes even the 9900 still), but I regularly go into Verizon's stores(with my brother in law who's constantly having problems with his 4s) and they have 0 BB's on display.

    Lesser of 2 evils? not so sure about that one, but everyone's perception is different.
    04-03-14 06:04 AM
  19. A895's Avatar
    ? Huh?....
    I travel outside the country on occasion and have 0 problem making calls, sending txt messages, or sending or receiving data( I do pay for international roaming). On the occasion I'm going to be spending a long time internationally, I have my Z10 unlocked directly from AT&T for... wait for it... 0$. I called them up and asked for an unlock code, that simple(i have been a customer for over 20 years).

    On a side note, I have 4 family members who use big red as their carrier, they have a smaller data cap, and crappier coverage(least where I live) for about 50$ more a month. Its also funny how in my area of the country, I can walk into any AT&T store to find several BB's on display(z10, Q10, and yes even the 9900 still), but I regularly go into Verizon's stores(with my brother in law who's constantly having problems with his 4s) and they have 0 BB's on display.

    Lesser of 2 evils? not so sure about that one, but everyone's perception is different.
    With regards to what was on display, what Verizon store was this? Was it a retail one or a Corporate store?

    Sent from my XT1060 using Mobile Nations mobile app
    04-03-14 06:18 AM
  20. The Big Picture's Avatar
    And what about John Chen calling iPhone users "wall huggers"? That is a direct insult to the end users of that platform and much worse than what Legere said. Using your own standards, you must also say that John Chen is an **** then.

    If you want my opinion I think both CEOs are ok and this whole thing is overblown.
    The difference is TMO and BlackBerry are partners. Apple and BlackBerry are competitors.

    Q10SQN100-3/10.2.1.2228, Z30, Z10, iP5, SGS3
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    04-03-14 06:49 AM
  21. Doggerz's Avatar
    ? Huh?....
    I travel outside the country on occasion and have 0 problem making calls, sending txt messages, or sending or receiving data( I do pay for international roaming). On the occasion I'm going to be spending a long time internationally, I have my Z10 unlocked directly from AT&T for... wait for it... 0$. I called them up and asked for an unlock code, that simple(i have been a customer for over 20 years).

    On a side note, I have 4 family members who use big red as their carrier, they have a smaller data cap, and crappier coverage(least where I live) for about 50$ more a month. Its also funny how in my area of the country, I can walk into any AT&T store to find several BB's on display(z10, Q10, and yes even the 9900 still), but I regularly go into Verizon's stores(with my brother in law who's constantly having problems with his 4s) and they have 0 BB's on display.

    Lesser of 2 evils? not so sure about that one, but everyone's perception is different.
    No dude I know you can travel outside the US with AT&T. I guess that should factor into it. The person trying to decide whether to go AT&T or Verizon.

    I had some bad experiences with both AT&T and Cingular who came before them. But in actuality I guess since I like taking my phone with me places I'd probably be forced to go with AT&T if there was no T-Mobile.

    I have no firsthand experience with Verizon although I am familiar with Allltel that they bought up and it wasn't so bad.

    You're right man. It's all experience and for all I know AT&T may have changed since I was a customer. I will say that I was in an AT&T store last year to look at a Z10 hands on before buying and they acted like I was insane. But from what I gather that is the way every US carrier treats BlackBerry lovers these days.

    Actually the person thinking about switching from TMO might be better with AT&T because if they have an unlocked phone they can always switch back. I think Verizon would be a better company and provide more competition if they were not CDMA but I know a lot of people who seem happy with being locked into a company whether it's Sprint or Verizon.

    I just love being able to switch SIM cards. My experience with my Z10 was in Mexico and both Telcel and Movistar SIMS worked great in my phone.

    Your were right to call me on that. I was thinking emotionally like Chen and lashed out at AT&T without thinking first.


    via CB10 using a Z10 / STL100-3 / RFK121LW / 10.2.1.2234 / T-Mobile USA
    04-03-14 06:53 AM
  22. vagos2006's Avatar
    After reading this thread and the tweets from John Legere. This guy is not a professional CEO at all. He is a total misfit and completely nuts. Every customer counts even if they are only 1% of a customer base.

    When you have a business deal with a company you keep that business relationship healthy and alive and not destroy it like John Legere did. He pretty much wrote off BlackBerry, thinking he can bully them around and trying to get BlackBerry customers to go to another platform by using sneaky business tactics, no stock, not pushing the devices, Sales reps saying BlackBerry is dead and bankrupt etc. The list can go on.

    I think John Chen did the right move, John Legere was hurting BlackBerry's image and name. This is not a professional business relationship, so it had to be cut off. I can't believe some of the tweets from this guy. How do you take this guy seriously?

    Posted by my awesome Z10
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    04-03-14 07:16 AM
  23. Omnitech's Avatar
    I strongly considering WP now because of the WP8.1 announcement.
    I had no idea WP 8.1 was that big an improvement over 8.0. Maybe I'll have to check that out, for the sake of curiosity..
    04-03-14 07:21 AM
  24. Omnitech's Avatar
    I can't believe some of the tweets from this guy. How do you take this guy seriously?

    I'm amazed he finds the time to spew tons of 140-char drivel day-in/day-out, personally. I sure hope he has someone doing that for him, or else I'd have to question his business priorities.
    04-03-14 07:24 AM
  25. co4nd's Avatar
    If you accept the 1% number, I wonder how many are loyal blackberry customers anyway. This is a speed bump for TMobile, but it will hurt Blackberry
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    04-03-14 07:30 AM
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