Software cannot secure hardware bugs: BlackBerry Priv affected amongst others.
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I don't think anyone willingly wants someone else to risk their phone, I'm just saying most of this stuff happens inadvertently in my opinion.
Posted via CB1008-08-16 08:56 AMLike 0 - A lot of you usual guys here miss the point. This is not about Android.
Whatever Qualcomm does, or Intel, or ARM, cannot be controlled by BlackBerry.
Isn't anyone here asking themselves why Samsung sells two versions of Galaxy S7: one for North America with Qualcomm chips and one for the rest of the world without them?
Likely a number of reasons: Qualcomm's capacity and willingness to make custom chipsets for the price, Samsung's desire to reduce reliance and build its own chip, etc.08-08-16 08:59 AMLike 0 - From what I understand most of the security risk on Android is from getting apps from sources other than the Google app store.
I don't think anyone willingly wants someone else to risk their phone, I'm just saying most of this stuff happens inadvertently in my opinion.
Posted via CB10Mecca EL likes this.08-08-16 09:00 AMLike 1 -
Posted via CB1008-08-16 09:08 AMLike 0 - Oh........ok, what the he!! do I know. . How about Apple? Did they not have a controversy a year or two ago when they were using 2 different companies? Maybe that is another example of Conite's reasoning. I just remember reading that some iPhone users were complaining about the problem, but I really could never understand why they used two different suppliers.
The Galaxy example would be more like Apple using the Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 in US iPhones and the Apple A9 in international versions.brookie229 and StephanieMaks like this.08-08-16 09:13 AMLike 2 - Correct! That's why my scenario was the one where you did not willfully do it. Isn't security only as good as the weakest link, who hasn't left there phone unlocked and exposed when they got up do check something down the hall or when drinking at the local establishment?
Posted via CB10Mecca EL likes this.08-08-16 09:15 AMLike 1 -
Posted via CB1008-08-16 09:23 AMLike 0 - Correct! That's why my scenario was the one where you did willfully do it. Isn't security only as good as the weakest link, who hasn't left there phone unlocked and exposed when they got up do check something down the hall or when drinking at the local establishment?
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There is also the point that we really don't know what would happen on Priv or dtek50 if the OS was compromised. Perhaps Integrity detection would pick it up, or the device wouldn't boot when it fails checksum.08-08-16 09:25 AMLike 0 -
This is why we still offer to purchase phones for our employees if they so desire. (We don't really have the resources to segregate usage with an MDM solution like BES/Good.). If they want their kids to play games with their phones, they really ought to carry two devices.
Posted via CB1008-08-16 09:29 AMLike 2 - Correct! That's why my scenario was the one where you did willfully do it. Isn't security only as good as the weakest link, who hasn't left there phone unlocked and exposed when they got up do check something down the hall or when drinking at the local establishment?
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Posted via CB1008-08-16 09:31 AMLike 4 - OK, geez. I guess I'm not the Jason borne type guys that everyone else here is.
My scenario was not with someone who has high security on there mind 24/7 just the average consumer.
Does no one else think it would be an easy and good thing to password out ?
Posted via CB1008-08-16 09:37 AMLike 0 - OK, geez. I guess I'm not the Jason borne type guys that everyone else here is.
My scenario was not with someone who has high security on there mind 24/7 just the average consumer.
Does no one else think it would be an easy and good thing to password out ?
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And certainly not anyone who would go into my settings, go to the security setup, turn off a security feature that has a warning, then install a malicious app on purpose.Mecca EL likes this.08-08-16 09:40 AMLike 1 - OK, geez. I guess I'm not the Jason borne type guys that everyone else here is.
My scenario was not with someone who has high security on there mind 24/7 just the average consumer.
Does no one else think it would be an easy and good thing to password out ?
Posted via CB1008-08-16 09:43 AMLike 0 -
I'm not saying this will happen everyday but I don't think I'm totally blue skying it either.
Posted via CB1008-08-16 09:55 AMLike 0 - Can I troll about the Blackphone being affected? Both versions!
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I'm not saying this will happen everyday but I don't think I'm totally blue saying it either.
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The same question could be asked about every single app from Contacts, Emails, documents in File Manager etc... If you are that worried chances are you will look for a solution.KemKev likes this.08-08-16 10:01 AMLike 1 - Looking at this hardware issue, it's really a code issue not necessarily hardware. For example BlackBerry looks at the manufacturing process to make sure that foreign chips and software isn't loaded to their devices. For example, one could slip a firmware into the manufacturing process that could allow it to steal code just like mentioned above or add another chip or part that doesn't belong there that could also do the same. It appears that this was a bug though, with the potential of gaining access to code and other information running on the device, compared to its already doing that (and being considered a hack). They reverse engineered Qualcomm's code in order to find this vulnerability. Another thing is that Qualcomm has already patched this and has been submitted to device manufacturers and keeping with BlackBerry's promise of patching every month, they have been really good at keeping this promise. But what's most important here is that this isn't a problem of controlling manufacturing process, it wasn't that a chipset came from another third party company, it was from Qualcomm directly a large company that a lot of manufacturers trust.
If you look at the report directly you can see that the biggest concern that they have is the updating process and the detection process, so there's are two things that BlackBerry is promising to give, maybe those OS integrity things we are seeing in the forumns maybe related to this. I dunno just my quick thoughts
Posted via CB1008-08-16 10:10 AMLike 0 - Android bug fear in 900 million phones - BBC News
I have been posing that question here for over two years.
Again this proves that without controlling hardware, including designing your own integrated circuits and not buying them from others, a company like BlackBerry cannot claim security.
It's interesting that Samsung (and Apple) are not on the list because they do not use the Qualcomm chip. They have their own.
This also goes back to the security (lack thereof) of a phone designed and assembled in China.
Samsung uses Qualcomm chips alongside their own Chips, regions thing.. S7 is affected.
I suggest you edit the post to correct that info.08-08-16 10:26 AMLike 0 - Android bug fear in 900 million phones - BBC News
I have been posing that question here for over two years.
Again this proves that without controlling hardware, including designing your own integrated circuits and not buying them from others, a company like BlackBerry cannot claim security.
It's interesting that Samsung (and Apple) are not on the list because they do not use the Qualcomm chip. They have their own.
This also goes back to the security (lack thereof) of a phone designed and assembled in China.
Posted via BlackBerry Priv STV100-1app_Developer likes this.08-08-16 10:33 AMLike 1 - 08-08-16 10:46 AMLike 0
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