So what can't you do on a BB?
- sleepngbearRetired ModeratorFor me, it is not that my BB doesn't do certain things. It is that it doesn't do them as well as the other platforms. Technology, in case anyone hasn't noticed, has been moving and innovating an lightening speeds for decades now. My BB (9700) is the equivalent of a circa-2002 laptop.
In terms of what it can't do in relation to other devices, a few examples would be:
1) A true point & shoot camera replacement
2) A true camcorder/Flip video replacement
3) A true GPS replacement
4) A true mini-computer, complete with a suite of apps that can make my life more organized.
The iPhone and Android devices are all but wiping out the markets for point and shoot cameras, Flip video and regular old camcorders, stand alone GPS units, and stand alone cell phones, etc. Pretty soon, they'll wipe out the handheld gaming systems as well. These are all being converged into one small, electronic device. Combine those features with a mini-computer that can do, in scale, much of what we do/used to do on a laptop or desktop, and it is easy to see why our smartphones have become central to our lives. Apple and Android are closest to being there and doing all of the above in a straight forward way. Heck, even Windows Phone is doing a heck of a lot of that, even if it doesn't seem like the prettiest interface. RIM, on the other hand, does little of the above particularly well, and the user experience is not nearly as intuitive as the other makers.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-29-11 08:07 AMLike 0 - Get full e-mails. Truncated messages is why I had to give up my Blackberry.pcgizmo#IM and ADGrant like this.06-29-11 09:13 AMLike 2
- pcgizmo#IMCrackBerry Ph.D.Oh c'mon....who doesn't love seeing "Message truncated due to size" ?? And the best part is that RIM can push that to you, no pulling involvedGuatiao likes this.06-29-11 09:21 AMLike 1
- Well here's a news flash: there are a whole bunch of us that don't want all that stuff on our phones. My phone is a communication device, not my portable movie theater, not my game system, and certainly not my full-function home pc. What BlackBerry's currently deliver is exactly what many of us need in a phone, right out of the box, without the need to load a ROM or jailbreak it, and without the need for hundreds of thousands of apps. And I challenge your assessment of the intuitiveness of the BBOS user experience - I find it to be the most intuitive of all of them. The OS7 phones will just give it the kick in the pants that it needs. There's a really good chance I'm going to totally pass on whatever this new QNX superphone turns out to be, because it will far exceed anything I want or need or will ever use in a phone.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-29-11 10:01 AMLike 3 - ActiveSync is the big one for corporate users with no BES access. BIS is like time traveling to the 90s and using POP and SMTP straight from a mail client. ActiveSync alone will make me switch if the Bold Touch and/or Torch 2 do not really wow me at release.
The web browser is big, as well. Forgetting Flash, there are still too many sites that don't work on BBOS that work great in QNX and Android (OS6 took the browser to such a level that I won't claim iOS is competitive here).06-29-11 11:07 AMLike 0 - shoot HD videos
play flash sites
free turn by turn mapping with google maps
wifi hotspot
activesync calender, contacts and push mail
LTE/4G
extensive widget support
netflix
hulu
3d capability
extensive gaming and graphics rendering
HDMI output
DLNA capbilities
app development for medical and other professions is also incredible in some fields
There is also jailbreak/root support with kernal and rom development.
granted some of these features will be on the upcoming BBs and the playbook has some support for these but i was comparing the current BB lineup with current iOS and android lineups
Except for active sync. You're deeply misguided on active sync.06-29-11 11:53 AMLike 0 - "1) A true point & shoot camera replacement
2) A true camcorder/Flip video replacement
3) A true GPS replacement
4) A true mini-computer, complete with a suite of apps that can make my life more organized."
How does the above not describe a blackberry?
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-29-11 11:59 AMLike 0 - What exactly does activesync do for a non corporate user?
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-29-11 12:02 PMLike 0 - I agree with you. The worst thing about using a Blackberry is BIS. Truncated emails are really annoying, slow syncing between my phone and gmail is also very annoying. Then there is the need for a special BIS data plan. Not a big deal in the US but when I travel to Europe and stick a pre-paid SIM in my BB, the phone is only good for calls and text messages.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-29-11 12:05 PMLike 0 - "1) A true point & shoot camera replacement
2) A true camcorder/Flip video replacement
3) A true GPS replacement
4) A true mini-computer, complete with a suite of apps that can make my life more organized."
How does the above not describe a blackberry?
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As much as I prefer the BB OS, there are some things that are lacking.06-29-11 12:11 PMLike 0 -
I find the 9700 camera quite good, the Torch must be even better.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-29-11 12:15 PMLike 0 - By the way, did any of you ever try a double click on the camera button? This will open the camera, focus and shoot right away without you having to do anything else, you just have to worry about pointing it in the right direction
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-29-11 12:19 PMLike 0 - hahaha, the thing about activesync is it give so much over BIS. I just feel BIS is so limiting. I remember times on BIS if i deleted an email of the phone or something happened and phone database was corrupt that i couldnt get emails back on my phone unless i remailed them to myself basically. I had to sync with outlook to keep my contact database up to date, same with calendar. With activesync you dont have to worry about any of it because its all always update and sync. i dont ever have to sync with outlook since its already taken care of. BIS has become a little better but there is still no folder support nor syncing of contacts and calendar except for a couple cases. Until BIS steps it up and has the same basic feature set that BES does it just wont cut it IMO.06-29-11 12:21 PMLike 0
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Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-29-11 12:26 PMLike 0 - good post, but BB is lacking god dam IMAP support for folders!!! if only one day they would do that, i know i'm going to get comments from people saying the reason why they don't and all i can is......yeah yeah yeah all other platforms do it!06-29-11 12:31 PMLike 0
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Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-29-11 12:33 PMLike 0 - sleepngbearRetired Moderator
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-29-11 12:43 PMLike 0 - Sadly, I think this is the real answer. Back when I started using BB (7105t), there weren't that many around and the potential for enhancing my productivity was tremendous. BB was not a consumer product, it was a business product. Smartphones, however, have become consumer products and the will and wishes of the masses are now driving the market. The things we long-time users love about our Berries is going to be swallowed up in the race to sell to the masses. We can all understand that, but it's still hard to swallow. (I also miss my PalmOS devices and Graffiti ). An Android or iPhone type phone is in all our futures, like it or not, even if RIM makes it.06-29-11 03:41 PMLike 0
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Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-29-11 04:07 PMLike 0 - This guy loves the blackberry camera:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/mobile-...medium=twitter
Couldn't be that bad then.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com06-29-11 04:24 PMLike 0 -
- sleepngbearRetired ModeratorAnd that's fine. However, as evidenced by the direction in which the mobile market and it's consumers are headed, you're definitely in the minority. And, there is nothing wrong with that. However, for Blackberry to stay at the forefront, it can't afford to be just a phone/e-mail/text device.
Ok, I apologize in advance for straying off-topic again, and I promise I won't do it again. Much.06-29-11 06:18 PMLike 0 - The camera issue? My BB Torch has 5 MP camera, the exact same as an iPhone 4. Also up until the iPhone 4, previous iPhones had no flash cameras. 5MP is about standard for smartphones these days.
Many of the top Android phones have 8MP cameras though, which do take better pictures. I would like to see BB step up its game with 8MP cameras, but 5MP is adequate, not exactly a flaw. Its just nitpicking really.06-29-11 06:57 PMLike 0 - there isnt anything wrong with the 5MP, MP arent everything. There are many other things in a camera like the lense and such that decide how good the quality is06-29-11 07:04 PMLike 0
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