So now that the App Gap is gone, whats the next complaint?
- Perhaps CB should reach out to BOTH Alec Saunders (for a clear comment that BlackBerry wants consumers to load apk's from third party stores - and that the facility is not just for dev testing) AND to stores (like Amazon) confirming their stance...
Hard work ahead!
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It would be a very important service for the community right now.
Posted via CB10Pete The Penguin and Poirots Progeny like this.11-20-13 08:18 AMLike 2 - Absolutely.
If the confusion on this forum is anything to go by - well one can only imagine the thought process, as found in the minds of the consumer.
BlackBerry really needs to focus and sharpen their perceived appearance.
Perception is key - or else watch the sales go by!
Posted via CB10MarsupilamiX likes this.11-20-13 08:31 AMLike 1 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry Wizard
Going back to my BlackBerry Q10 which runs the full Android OS with the explicit permission of Amazon.
Geeks United C0012240811-20-13 08:53 AMLike 4 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry WizardPerhaps CB should reach out to BOTH Alec Saunders (for a clear comment that BlackBerry wants consumers to load apk's from third party stores - and that the facility is not just for dev testing) AND to stores (like Amazon) confirming their stance...
Hard work ahead!
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Geeks United C00122408MarsupilamiX and paper_monkey like this.11-20-13 08:54 AMLike 2 -
Ideas?
Posted via CB10Poirots Progeny likes this.11-20-13 08:59 AMLike 1 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry Wizard
Geeks United C00122408Poirots Progeny likes this.11-20-13 09:05 AMLike 1 - Perhaps CB should reach out to BOTH Alec Saunders (for a clear comment that BlackBerry wants consumers to load apk's from third party stores - and that the facility is not just for dev testing) AND to stores (like Amazon) confirming their stance...
Hard work ahead!
Posted via CB10Pete The Penguin and Poirots Progeny like this.11-20-13 09:18 AMLike 2 - 11-20-13 09:19 AMLike 0
- Actually, Alec or Marty or somebody at BBRY should be reaching out to Amazon and other third-party Android app stores. It's obvious they haven't. Yet they release a device capable of direct downloading Android apps from . . . where? Frankly, it seems pretty shifty. The Pirates of Waterloo!
Posted via CB10canuckvoip likes this.11-20-13 09:20 AMLike 1 - I understand that, but expect the response to come from a low tier CS representative rather than from a person/department that has the authority and expertise to answer your question.
I was wondering if you could follow up and refer to the ToS and specifically to the line that says:
"Apps can be used only on mobile devices that use the Android platform"
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Geeks United C00122408paper_monkey and Poirots Progeny like this.11-20-13 09:23 AMLike 2 - Why is it shady? No one is even aware of whether there are current agreements being forged between blackberry and other companies?
BlackBerry has a legal Android runtime and has every rite to monetize it.
It's a little to early to judge the parameters of a leaked os. I will reserve any judgement until there is an official release or agreements in place.
Posted via CB10playbookster and canuckvoip like this.11-20-13 09:25 AMLike 2 - BlackBerry needs to tell the community what the plan is! With device sales in the crapper anyway, it's not like they are going to hurt something that doesn't exist. It's time to lay out the road map and let customers who have been loyal decide if the platform is heading in the right or wrong direction and either stay or move on!
Posted via CB1011-20-13 09:38 AMLike 3 - BlackBerry needs to tell the community what the plan is! With device sales in the crapper anyway, it's not like they are going to hurt something that doesn't exist. It's time to lay out the road map and let customers who have been loyal decide if the platform is heading in the right or wrong direction and either stay or move on!
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To early for Chen to make any concrete statements.
Posted via CB1011-20-13 09:42 AMLike 0 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry WizardWhy is it shady? No one is even aware of whether there are current agreements being forged between blackberry and other companies?
BlackBerry has a legal Android runtime and has every rite to monetize it.
It's a little to early to judge the parameters of a leaked os. I will reserve any judgement until there is an official release or agreements in place.
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I've bolded the important part of your quote.
Geeks United C00122408paper_monkey likes this.11-20-13 09:42 AMLike 1 -
Please give some examples of how the Android runtime is illegal. I would like to know.
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Posted via CB10pantlesspenguin and Poirots Progeny like this.11-20-13 09:58 AMLike 2 - The runtime itself is neither legal or illegal. It's just a tool. As with many things in life, it's what you chose to do with it...h20work and Pete The Penguin like this.11-20-13 10:00 AMLike 2
- Clarity has been lacking since Mike and Jim were in Charge. Thorsten just used nebulous buzzwords to describe the direction that told people nothing. Chen said loyalty is a two way street so it is time for BlackBerry to honor their part of the loyalty equation.
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Yesterday is the past. I am concerned where we are Now and moving forward.
Beating a dead horse with the past as that is very evident.
Posted via CB10bradu1 likes this.11-20-13 10:00 AMLike 1 -
BlackBerry realizes that Android is an integral part of mobile moving forward.
What's limiting us now is having a cohesive and we'll integrated runtime that allows for seamless integration with BB10.
Major engineering feat to have integration with the hub, UX, invocation, continuity etc.
We are on the verge of some very impressive Android runtime capabilities. I an very impressed with where it is headed.
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If you are using an app on a platform other than what it was intended for by the Dev and/or app store provider you are pirating the app. full stop.h20work and Pete The Penguin like this.11-20-13 10:07 AMLike 2 - I am aware of this. However we are in the midst of a grey area currently with the transition of a new ceo.
Yesterday is the past. I am concerned where we are Now and moving forward.
Beating a dead horse with the past, as that is very evident we need clarity .
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Posted via CB1011-20-13 10:07 AMLike 0 - You are legally permitted to use them within the framework of the TOS of the store, the EULA for the app and the prevailing copyright legislation. I would strongly suggest you rethink this argument in the context of this thread though, as to do so right now requires you to illegally install an OS onto your device which voids your warranty and violates sundry agreements between yourself and your carrier and yourself and BlackBerry so before even looking at the legality of the apps, to get them on your phone is illegal (but I digress)
If you are using an app on a platform other than what it was intended for by the Dev and/or app store provider you are pirating the app. full stop.
An app submitted to an app store becomes legal property of that app store due to the terms and agreements the dev has agreed to.
Posted via CB1011-20-13 10:09 AMLike 0 - We are discussing intellectual property which, just like artwork, is covered under copyright. Do you also make the argument that it's ok to download a movie that you wouldn't have gone to see in the theaters because you wouldn't have gone to see it anyway so they aren't losing any money?11-20-13 10:11 AMLike 0
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