So now that the App Gap is gone, whats the next complaint?
- If you have missed it, some users that you try to describe with this post, have at least reached out to Amazon with the goal of getting an official response from the owner of the app store some in here proclaimed to recognise BB10 phones as Android devices and that this may entitle us to some sort of support when we use their app store.
This assertion has completely been busted though.
You trying to insult some members won't change that truth...
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Perhaps there will be a statement made (from a source as opposed to a third party) that the Amazon TOS disallows the download/use of an app from their store for use on a BB10 device, perhaps not. None of us know that today/yet. I have no problem being wrong, no biggie if that happens. I fully expected there to be no support today. I don't care but many would. That's today.
We'll all see about tomorrow/later. And we're all allowed an opinion, without being... um... difficult.
:>)h20work and missing_K-W like this.11-19-13 11:00 PMLike 2 - A few welcome surprises like being able to resize picture attachments are bringing back what kept me loyal to BlackBerry the last 10 years.
I doubt this os will ever see the light of of days outside the forums or the dev's it was meant for though. Way too many bugs and glitches
Beyond that is 10.3. I'm guessing they're reserving the dot incremental release for something major next year. That's the OS upgrade that I'm truly curious about, and hopefully it will release. I'm guessing it will now that BlackBerry has another billion in covertible debt, and also another possible billion in tax write offs from the Canadian government.southlander likes this.11-19-13 11:00 PMLike 1 - Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesOne discussion point that came up was the idea that offering the ability to sideload raw apks would encourage developers to bring apps to platform store.
How will this occur?11-19-13 11:02 PMLike 0 - 11-19-13 11:10 PMLike 0
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Do nothing and your app may work, takes zero effort.
Try your app and it works, then sit down and port it, submit it to bbw, and wait till/if it gets approved.
It's all about profits!
11-19-13 11:14 PMLike 0 - I just installed 10.2.1 this week and I'm sure it will release. The beta I'm using is very stable, works well actually.
Beyond that is 10.3. I'm guessing they're reserving the dot incremental release for something major next year. That's the OS upgrade that I'm truly curious about, and hopefully it will release. I'm guessing it will now that BlackBerry has another billion in covertible debt, and also another possible billion in tax write offs from the Canadian government.11-19-13 11:16 PMLike 0 -
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The rep responded that the device isn't supported, and course it wouldn't be in its current release form; 10.2.0 doesn't support direct Android installation.
The more important direct question may be: "you don't support my device specifically, but does running apps from your store violate your TOS?"canuckvoip likes this.11-19-13 11:37 PMLike 1 -
The way I read your post, you're saying that if all this sideloading or APK loading wasn't legal, then BlackBerry wouldn't have implemented the Android runtime since their lawyers would've looked into the legality of it first. What I was trying to say was, people are jumping the gun here, assuming that the new runtime is intended by BlackBerry to allow for easier user direct APK loading, like many are doing now.
We don't know what shape the actual release versions of 10.2.1 is going to look like. It could have a re-locked runtime. Or perhaps they will manage to cook up a deal with a 3rd party Android app store. We don't have an official stance, so it's premature to assume everything is legal just because we see the runtime in it's current form.laketrout73 likes this.11-19-13 11:38 PMLike 1 - Not particularly. I didn't see the original letter sent to them, so I wonder about the nature of the "complaint" issued.
The rep responded that the device isn't supported, and course it wouldn't be in its current release form; 10.2.0 doesn't support direct Android installation.
The more important direct question may be: "you don't support my device specifically, but does running apps from your store violate your TOS?"11-19-13 11:44 PMLike 0 - Not particularly. I didn't see the original letter sent to them, so I wonder about the nature of the "complaint" issued.
The rep responded that the device isn't supported, and course it wouldn't be in its current release form; 10.2.0 doesn't support direct Android installation.
The more important direct question may be: "you don't support my device specifically, but does running apps from your store violate your TOS?"
But you may be right. Since 10.2.0 is not supported and there is no official statement/agreement between Amazon (or any other store) and BBRY as of yet, the app gap is NOT closed.11-20-13 12:12 AMLike 0 - This is the response I got
Hello,
At this time, Amazon Appstore is not available on Blackberry. I?m sorry for any inconvenience.
We understand that making Appstore available on Blackberry will make our website more user friendly and We appreciate your feedback.
I have forwarded the your feedback to the Appstore team, they'll surely consider it when we make future improvements.
Thanks for your interest in Amazon Appstore. We look forward to seeing you again soon.
Best regards,
Ansari
The thing is it is available on blackberry, it's a very canned answer. I think someone from cb should try to get a more official response from a more senior employee.
Sent from my Z3011-20-13 12:22 AMLike 4 - This is the response I got
Hello,
At this time, Amazon Appstore is not available on Blackberry. I?m sorry for any inconvenience.
We understand that making Appstore available on Blackberry will make our website more user friendly and We appreciate your feedback.
I have forwarded the your feedback to the Appstore team, they'll surely consider it when we make future improvements.
Thanks for your interest in Amazon Appstore. We look forward to seeing you again soon.
Best regards,
Ansari
The thing is it is available on blackberry, it's a very canned answer. I think someone from cb should try to get a more official response from a more senior employee.
Sent from my Z30
Expected answer isn't it? It's too early in the game. We shall see what comes from this. For anyone to definitively draw a hard conclusion from this type of response is irresponsible.
It's just inconclusive...11-20-13 12:31 AMLike 0 - Wow! This thread is still going? My next complain is that there are way too many complainers. Lol.
They should really try to get this 10.2.1 launch sooner. Like say Christmas. I'm really curious to try how well these android apk runs but i don't wanna install the leak.
Sent from the best touch keyboard, the Z.11-20-13 12:44 AMLike 0 - Wow! This thread is still going? My next complain is that there are way too many complainers. Lol.
They should really try to get this 10.2.1 launch sooner. Like say Christmas. I'm really curious to try how well these android apk runs but i don't wanna install the leak.
Sent from the best touch keyboard, the Z.
Hopefully they can make the installing if Apks much more reliable. They can really get some good results if it pans out
"We are truly alone, the scars on your heart are yours to atone" (BBM#18)canuckvoip likes this.11-20-13 12:53 AMLike 1 -
I'll just point out that not receiving an answer from Amazon to your email doesn't (legally) equate to giving their consent to their appstore being used on a BB device. I'm not saying that you personally would assume that silence equals assent, but I'm sure there are many here who would.
EDIT: (After reading the, seemed like dozens!, of intervening pages).
What I've seen so far are canned responses from a CS Rep... which doesn't cut it, for me at least. A formal response from Amazon legal dept to Bekkay's email, in which he specifically refers to the TOS issues, would be excellent.Last edited by JeepBB; 11-20-13 at 01:40 AM.
11-20-13 01:06 AMLike 0 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry Wizard
Do you tell the iPhone owners to post on iMore too? Ever heard of freedom of choice?
Geeks United C0012240811-20-13 05:11 AMLike 2 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry WizardNP. For the record, I'm surprised that they wouldn't support any user regardless of platform. Kindle is available on BB10, so why they wouldn't support side loading BB10 users is a bit of a mystery to me.
Whatever. I like BlackBerry, and I like Amazon so I'm good either way. Cheers brother.
Did BlackBerry just pop it in there without asking Amazon?
Geeks United C00122408bekkay likes this.11-20-13 05:20 AMLike 1 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry Wizard
Geeks United C00122408Tre Lawrence likes this.11-20-13 05:22 AMLike 1 - Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesIt ain't about what your do; it's about contravening the justification group-think.
Careful... you might get asked why you're here too. Just keep quiet and "monetize" for the developers on your Android BB10 device and enjoy the closed app gap.Pete The Penguin and paper_monkey like this.11-20-13 06:46 AMLike 2 - Lol I emailed Amazon last weekend about support for apps on BB10. I didn't post my results here because they sounded like canned answers, even though after the first reply I reiterated what I meant. I just don't think they understood. I'm like 99% sure that both times they thought I was referring to the app store officially being available for BlackBerry, not the ability to use the Android store on BB10 devices.bekkay likes this.11-20-13 07:00 AMLike 1
- Perhaps CB should reach out to BOTH Alec Saunders (for a clear comment that BlackBerry wants consumers to load apk's from third party stores - and that the facility is not just for dev testing) AND to stores (like Amazon) confirming their stance...
Hard work ahead!
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