So now that the App Gap is gone, whats the next complaint?
- Bold_until_Hybrid_ComesWaterloo's FinestAsking for complaints as the topic of the thread, then said requested complaints are considered to make the thread "distorted by bashing" by you. Interesting.11-17-13 09:53 PMLike 3
- Hmm that's interesting. I would assume with the ability to simply load the apk without any conversion would make it literally as simple as porting an app to BB World. Support is another thing, but they should be able to push out updates and manage their app since it is "technically" running in an Android environment.11-17-13 09:54 PMLike 0
- Great point, ultimately is an easier way of side loading. All of us that were side loading before now can enjoy better (though not as good as native) app experiences. It felt pretty good searching for apps in 1 Mobile and Amazon and the app actually showed up lol. While I hope this isn't a long term BB solution, its good for the side loading community.bradu1 likes this.11-17-13 09:54 PMLike 1
- Okay let's say that the app gap is now closed, but what will happen if Google decides to drop dalvik for future android releases? Will bb10+ incorporate googles new runtime then, or will another app gap be created?11-17-13 09:55 PMLike 0
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- It is interesting. Thunderbuck, for instance, is on the other side of the aisle from me on this. He lays his points, strongly and otherwise, without leveling accusations or name calling at forumites.
That's how it should be, IMHO. The "T" word is becoming a desperate substitute for reasoned debate.11-17-13 09:57 PMLike 6 - I don't doubt you have the experience and never stated I did. However, regardless of how much experience you have, your statement is still an example of anecdotal evidence.
Anecdotal evidence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Note the line that says: "This is true regardless of the veracity of individual claims"
However, you tend to dismiss any anectdotal evidence as false or unimportant any time it disagrees with what you say. In this instance what I am saying, I have a fairly large sample size, surely more than what most surveys use to come up with facts. At no point am I saying these 89 dollar tablets are going to be stealing customers from apple or Samsung. It's a completely different customer base. However, there will be hundred of thousands sold out on black Friday. My stores will be selling them, my competitors will, the discount stores down the street will, walmart and sears will, and starting last year, even the grocery stores were. Trust me, that's a lot of 'no-name' tablets without Google Play being sold.
#IchooseBlackberry10 (BBM#25)WorldwideRemix likes this.11-17-13 10:00 PMLike 1 -
- Honestly, i don't feel like sifting through 800 posts at the moment. What i really want is someone to answer my question from a few posts up, its more relevant to this thread and 10.2.1 capabilities.11-17-13 10:02 PMLike 0
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#IchooseBlackberry10 (BBM#25)playbookster likes this.11-17-13 10:05 PMLike 1 -
Example: Q10 not having speed dial from home screen from launch is absurd. Okay, noted. We now know it's being fixed. Would anybody leave their Q10 they want for the keyboard to go to say Apple that has no keyboard just cause they can't speed dial? Maybe a few out of spite, but most would prefer a keyboard without speed dial than no keyboard at all.
So there's an example where it's more important to understand which complaints differentiate customer retention versus customer loss.
Posted with my Q10 on Verizon from Philly11-17-13 10:07 PMLike 0 - I think the bottomline is there will always be complaints. Expectations in the mobile device world are high because new devices are constantly coming out. IMHO complaints are important to consider but the more important thing to consider is whether or not the complaint will drive the consumer away from BlackBerry.
Example: Q10 not having speed dial from home screen from launch is absurd. Okay, noted. We now know it's being fixed. Would anybody leave their Q10 they want for the keyboard to go to say Apple that has no keyboard just cause they can't speed dial? Maybe a few out of spite, but most would prefer a keyboard without speed dial than no keyboard at all.
So there's an example where it's more important to understand which complaints differentiate customer retention versus customer loss.
Posted with my Q10 on Verizon from Philly
#IchooseBlackberry10 (BBM#25)11-17-13 10:10 PMLike 0 -
Now, the part that strikes me as funny and probably means absolutely nothing, is they're switching from Dalvik to Android Run Time. What do we call our android player quite often? Android Run Time. How funny would it be if BlackBerry was making an Android Run Time for Google? Maybe that's what the meeting were about? Someone call the National Enquirer!! I have a story for them.
(before I'm bashed, that last part was pure comedy)
#IchooseBlackberry10 (BBM#25)11-17-13 10:15 PMLike 0 - Thank you for educating me. I do hope you don't use Wikipedia when you are researching anything important.
However, you tend to dismiss any anectdotal evidence as false or unimportant any time it disagrees with what you say. In this instance what I am saying, I have a fairly large sample size, surely more than what most surveys use to come up with facts. At no point am I saying these 89 dollar tablets are going to be stealing customers from apple or Samsung. It's a completely different customer base. However, there will be hundred of thousands sold out on black Friday. My stores will be selling them, my competitors will, the discount stores down the street will, walmart and sears will, and starting last year, even the grocery stores were. Trust me, that's a lot of 'no-name' tablets without Google Play being sold.
#IchooseBlackberry10 (BBM#25)
Anyway, you claimed that no-name tablet owners represent the average tablet user and that no-name tablets outsell brand name tablets. Based on YOUR sales observations.
The reality is that ~70% of all tablets sold worldwide over last few quarters are by the top 5 OEMs (based on stats reported by various credible sources). And that doesn't include other established brands either.11-17-13 10:16 PMLike 0 - No, I use Wikipedia for certain audiences.
Anyway, you claimed that no-name tablet owners represent the average tablet user and that no-name tablets outsell brand name tablets. Based on YOUR sales observations.
The reality is that ~70% of all tablets sold worldwide are by the top 5 OEMs.
#IchooseBlackberry10 (BBM#25)11-17-13 10:24 PMLike 0 - I'm in no position to be doing research right now. I can tell you I believe you are looking at sales dollars vs sold units. Also, I'd like to see who actually makes these tablets, because they're probably actually produced by someone like Asus. Sylvania, Craig, I'm trying to remember all the 'brands' I've sold, you pop off the branded box, and they're all the same exact unit, just branded differently for whoever is selling them. Sometimes they will even have that brand silk screened on the body somewhere, usually they won't.
#IchooseBlackberry10 (BBM#25)
"Shipments in millions" and "2Q13 Unit Shipments"
No, I am talking about unit shipments.
Edit:
Sylvania = Funai Electric Company
Craig Electornics is just Craig Electornics.11-17-13 10:27 PMLike 0 -
Then, a positive ( heaven forbid such a horrid thing) post gets machine gunned and the inevitable and obvious happens. Nice.
Not.bradu1 likes this.11-17-13 10:28 PMLike 1 -
- The app gap is being closed and will close. Some just can't handle/ accept that.
I'm 100% for android app support.
Posted via CB1011-17-13 10:29 PMLike 0 - The way I (just little old me now...) view the OP was that it's a quick look into the future. By that I mean "when this OS is released with this feature", the perceived/actual app gap situation will "be" gone if allowed to flourish. That's just my interpretation and I cannot/will not put words in OPs mouth.
Then, a positive ( heaven forbid such a horrid thing) post gets machine gunned and the inevitable and obvious happens. Nice.
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- Bold_until_Hybrid_ComesWaterloo's FinestI'm running 1055 and unfortunately when I am on a file (a picture for example) I cannot "share" it to the APK apps.pantlesspenguin likes this.11-17-13 10:39 PMLike 1
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