So now that the App Gap is gone, whats the next complaint?
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In any case, if these two look similar to you, I guess it won't do any justice to continue this discussion with you.11-17-13 08:43 PMLike 0 -
#IchooseBlackberry10 (BBM#25)11-17-13 08:46 PMLike 0 - I'm sorry, but I just hate posts like that. I'll say most people here have been listing very good reasons behind their claims. The real trolls in these posts have honestly been people coming to this thread to bash people who have a counter argument. It is absolutely immature and pointless because they are contributing absolutely nothing to the thread. Let one person say anything negative about BlackBerry and people turn into savages.
Posted via CB1011-17-13 08:51 PMLike 3 - It is incredibly easy to download apk's from the Internet. Lots of android users do this anyways. Those who don't exclusively shop outside Google play at least dabble. This form of side loading doesn't have to be taught to everyone.
Also if developers notice increased downloads thanks to blackberry fan boys it might encourage some more ports and native development into blackberry world.
Posted via CB10missing_K-W and bradu1 like this.11-17-13 08:52 PMLike 2 - But it's irrelevant. Your point was that why side load if the Apps have Android all over it. To which I replied that the apps I use don't. Simple.
Also, I think Samsung has potential. They could do wonders without Android. (btw are they making their own OS? I've heard other people say they are. But not sure.)
"We are truly alone, the scars on your heart are yours to atone" (BBM#18)
Posted via CB1011-17-13 08:54 PMLike 0 - Just because you don't agree with those who offer a dissenting opinion doesn't mean that they are trolls.
A troll is someone who posts with the single purpose of inciting an emotional response. Disagreeing that the app gap is closed is not trolling. Pointing out potential problems with one two sites is not trolling.....if you believe it is, you have just called a moderator/network moderator a troll.
What a place! ;-)Bold_until_Hybrid_Comes likes this.11-17-13 08:56 PMLike 1 - Yes, because we love to complain for the sake of it. Give your head a shake. There are still problems with the os. The app gap isn't close to being closed. Scavenging sites for apk "scraps" just to download a lot of junk that doesn't work is the reality here. BlackBerry is headed in the right direction, but still not quite ready for prime time. Soon, I hope
Posted via CB10Waramp22 likes this.11-17-13 08:57 PMLike 1 - IMHO OP did not create a troll thread. It occurs to me that it may be viewed that way by some though. It has been distorted by bashing.11-17-13 09:01 PMLike 0
- Yes, because we love to complain for the sake of it. Give your head a shake. There are still problems with the os. The app gap isn't close to being closed. Scavenging sites for apk "scraps" just to download a lot of junk that doesn't work is the reality here. BlackBerry is headed in the right direction, but still not quite ready for prime time. Soon, I hope
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"We are truly alone, the scars on your heart are yours to atone" (BBM#18)11-17-13 09:02 PMLike 0 - Yes, because we love to complain for the sake of it. Give your head a shake. There are still problems with the os. The app gap isn't close to being closed. Scavenging sites for apk "scraps" just to download a lot of junk that doesn't work is the reality here. BlackBerry is headed in the right direction, but still not quite ready for prime time. Soon, I hope
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I think you're doing it wrong
#IchooseBlackberry10 (BBM#25)11-17-13 09:18 PMLike 3 - 11-17-13 09:20 PMLike 0
- Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesWell let's keep in mind it's just a leak. And hasn't been released officially yet. So hopefully, when it does, it'll be able to handle most or all Apks smoothly. Yes, it's going in the right direction and am really excited for it!
"We are truly alone, the scars on your heart are yours to atone" (BBM#18)11-17-13 09:23 PMLike 0 - It was closed at the first 'anectdotal'.
That means you weren't willing to discuss.
When your black Friday ads come in, look at them. See how many 'no-name' tabs are out there at retailers vs Sammy and ipad. And just know, they will all sell out within hours of the stores opening.
#IchooseBlackberry10 (BBM#25)bekkay likes this.11-17-13 09:24 PMLike 1 - Tre LawrenceBetween Realities
That's how it should be, IMHO. The "T" word is becoming a desperate substitute for reasoned debate.11-17-13 09:28 PMLike 6 - I don't believe he knows what "anectdotal" means as he first claimed that you were in error labeling his personal experiences as anecdotal, and now claims it means you were 'willing to discuss". Of course you stating that his claims were anecdotal is, in fact, discussing his claims, and quite arguably the most important - certainly the most critical to start with - facet of the discussion.richardat likes this.11-17-13 09:29 PMLike 1
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Because Google Play is not the only place to get android apps. There are plenty of cheap android tablets sold everyday that doesn't have Google Play or even amazon. I know there's an odd little app store out there, is it slide? That a lot of them come with. Perhaps we'll get one of them included. Perhaps not. But an app store like Amazon does not care what device you're using, they just want to sell to you. And they're not going to turn away money. BlackBerry can include this as an added feature with no support for it in terms of app stores. We are all smart enough to type amazon.com in to our browser. And when you do and click on apps, guess what happens? It asks you to download their app store app, which works.
If you ask me, people are upset because they see one of the major complaints about BlackBerry slowly disappearing.
#IchooseBlackberry10 (BBM#25)playbookster likes this.11-17-13 09:30 PMLike 1 - How is bb10 actually running android .apks? Is it through the dalvik VM, if so what will happen if Google decides to drop dalvik for ART?11-17-13 09:34 PMLike 0
- Good point. They may end up locking the runtime again like in the later versions of 10.2. Who knows, this whole apk install ability could be made just to entice devs to put their apps directly into BlackBerry World without even having to repackage into a bar file.11-17-13 09:35 PMLike 0
- I don't believe he knows what "anectdotal" means as he first claimed that you were in error labeling his personal experiences as anecdotal, and now claims it means you were 'willing to discuss". Of course you stating that his claims were anecdotal is, in fact, discussing his claims, and quite arguably the most important - certainly the most critical to start with - facet of the discussion.
Tell you what, 99.9% of these threads are anecdotal evidence. If we went facts and figures only this would be a very lonely place. You for instance Richard have questioned my intelligence in several threads, yet I have never asked you to provide your I.Q. so I may compare it to mine. Instead I simply report. So if you have a problem with my statements you are referring to, simply report them. However, I can tell you that as this is my profession, I believe I have first hand knowledge to back up what I have stated.
#IchooseBlackberry10 (BBM#25)11-17-13 09:38 PMLike 0 - Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesI'll answer. Yes
Because Google Play is not the only place to get android apps. There are plenty of cheap android tablets sold everyday that doesn't have Google Play or even amazon. I know there's an odd little app store out there, is it slide? That a lot of them come with. Perhaps we'll get one of them included. Perhaps not. But an app store like Amazon does not care what device you're using, they just want to sell to you. And they're not going to turn away money. BlackBerry can include this as an added feature with no support for it in terms of app stores. We are all smart enough to type amazon.com in to our browser. And when you do and click on apps, guess what happens? It asks you to download their app store app, which works.
If you ask me, people are upset because they see one of the major complaints about BlackBerry slowly disappearing.
#IchooseBlackberry10 (BBM#25)
I think it is a band-aid on canon wound because when I thought about it after the initial "wow" moment, it seems to me that one entity is gaining from this as-is, and it isn't BB10. I use Android for daily work, but am quite cognizant of the fact that the reason Google owns 80% of the market is that it didn't. Google had to innovate in the mobile space, and to continue, competition is crucial.
I don't think this will help regular users, but I have been wrong before.
But here is what I think (pure conjecture): this will NEVER be an official release. BBRY will continue to say it is a dev build, and will continue to say it fires people for leaking stuff... UNLESS they broker some sort of agreement.paper_monkey likes this.11-17-13 09:43 PMLike 1 - I said 'weren't' such a stickler yet completely reversed what I said. How odd.
Tell you what, 99.9% of these threads are anecdotal evidence. If we went facts and figures only this would be a very lonely place. You for instance Richard have questioned my intelligence in several threads, yet I have never asked you to provide your I.Q. so I may compare it to mine. Instead I simply report. So if you have a problem with my statements you are referring to, simply report them. However, I can tell you that as this is my profession, I believe I have first hand knowledge to back up what I have stated.
#IchooseBlackberry10 (BBM#25)
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Note the line that says: "This is true regardless of the veracity of individual claims"11-17-13 09:43 PMLike 0 - I have a question. Would a dev submitting an APK to BBworld vs a converted APK to BAR be able to manage their app just as if it were an APK on android? Would this save them the trouble of having to manage another platform?missing_K-W likes this.11-17-13 09:44 PMLike 1
- Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesGood point. They may end up locking the runtime again like in the later versions of 10.2. Who knows, this whole apk install ability could be made just to entice devs to put their apps directly into BlackBerry World without even having to repackage into a bar file.
BBRY is slick.11-17-13 09:45 PMLike 0 - Great point, ultimately is an easier way of side loading. All of us that were side loading before now can enjoy better (though not as good as native) app experiences. It felt pretty good searching for apps in 1 Mobile and Amazon and the app actually showed up lol. While I hope this isn't a long term BB solution, its good for the side loading community.11-17-13 09:47 PMLike 0
- Hmm that's interesting. I would assume with the ability to simply load the apk without any conversion would make it literally as simple as porting an app to BB World. Support is another thing, but they should be able to push out updates and manage their app since it is "technically" running in an Android environment.11-17-13 09:52 PMLike 0
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