1. yohannyphm's Avatar
    First it was WhatsApp announcing end to end encryption like they invented it. Now Viber drops the same feature on theirs. On the other end BBM who's being known for its security and it's most recognized asset, gets hits with bad publicity due to cooperation with law enforcement agencies.
    Don't know if the formers capitalize on BlackBerry recurrent message of security and and at the same time help discredit BlackBerry with that apparent security flaw. Or is just BlackBerry bad luck that all happens at the same time.

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    Attached Thumbnails Seems like everybody is jumping on the security
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    05-04-16 10:32 AM
  2. LazyEvul's Avatar
    That's because end-to-end encryption is now considered the bare minimum for secure IM. The options are endless - iMessage, WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Viber, etc. They're still varying degrees of secure, but they've caught up with the bare minimum. BBM has not.

    BlackBerry can fix that, but I'm guessing they won't - they want you to buy a BBM Protected subscription for end-to-end.
    05-04-16 10:52 AM
  3. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    Security is a good thing, it just can't be your whole focus causing you to miss what might be more important to your customers.
    techvisor, MikeX74, TgeekB and 1 others like this.
    05-04-16 11:00 AM
  4. hplovecraft's Avatar
    That's because end-to-end encryption is now considered the bare minimum for secure IM. The options are endless - iMessage, WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Viber, etc. They're still varying degrees of secure, but they've caught up with the bare minimum. BBM has not.

    BlackBerry can fix that, but I'm guessing they won't - they want you to buy a BBM Protected subscription for end-to-end.
    be careful mentioning something good about whatsapp in comparison to BBM around here......

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    05-04-16 12:00 PM
  5. The Big Picture's Avatar
    Marketing's the problem

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    05-09-16 04:58 PM
  6. MmmHmm's Avatar
    Marketing's the problem

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    Oh, I don't know about that. BlackBerry is still cited as being a secure option in devices and messaging on CrackBerry and even in other media on occasion. Despite other shortcomings, BB still has a reputation as being all about security and privacy. I don't see much evidence that it's actually true, but people still seem to believe it. Seems like pretty effective marketing to me.
    05-11-16 12:33 AM
  7. qwerty4ever's Avatar
    First it was WhatsApp announcing end to end encryption like they invented it. Now Viber drops the same feature on theirs. On the other end BBM who's being known for its security and it's most recognized asset, gets hits with bad publicity due to cooperation with law enforcement agencies.
    Don't know if the formers capitalize on BlackBerry recurrent message of security and and at the same time help discredit BlackBerry with that apparent security flaw. Or is just BlackBerry bad luck that all happens at the same time.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    Blackberry Messenger not activated on a BlackBerry Enterprise Server shares a universal encryption key which BlackBerry holds the master key. this has always been the situation with BBM.

    BlackBerry Priv with CrackBerry App for Android
    05-12-16 12:21 PM
  8. bakron1's Avatar
    Security is a very funny situation, nobody gets concerned about it until it comes knocking on their front door and usually by then it's too late.
    05-12-16 04:25 PM
  9. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    Security is a very funny situation, nobody gets concerned about it until it comes knocking on their front door and usually by then it's too late.
    Lol. :-D

    What you said.

      There's a Crack in the Berry right now...  
    05-12-16 05:43 PM
  10. Polt's Avatar
    That's because end-to-end encryption is now considered the bare minimum for secure IM. The options are endless - iMessage, WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Viber, etc. They're still varying degrees of secure, but they've caught up with the bare minimum. BBM has not.

    BlackBerry can fix that, but I'm guessing they won't - they want you to buy a BBM Protected subscription for end-to-end.
    In the NDTV interview , the Indian guy talk with JC and said that BBM had full encryption, is this true?
    05-12-16 07:38 PM
  11. anon(1723145)'s Avatar
    They want you to buy a BBM Protected subscription for end-to-end.
    Exactly, and why would anyone pay for something they can get for free elsewhere.

    Not too smart BlackBerry.



    ClassicSQC100-3/10.3.2.858
    05-12-16 09:00 PM
  12. LazyEvul's Avatar
    In the NDTV interview , the Indian guy talk with JC and said that BBM had full encryption, is this true?
    Not sure what he means by "full encryption," but BBM's encryption is fairly well-documented. BBM has encryption by default, but it is not end-to-end encryption - only BBM Protected receives end-to-end.

    This means that BlackBerry has the key used to encrypt every message sent over a non-Protected BBM chat, creating a single point of failure. Anyone who can get their hands on that key will be able to read any messages sent over BBM. That's a substantial security risk, especially since BlackBerry is legally required to share that key with law enforcement in some countries - the more people you share that single point of failure with, the more likely it is to be discovered by someone else.
    05-13-16 12:33 AM
  13. onehundreddollarpartyperson's Avatar
    This means that BlackBerry has the key used to encrypt every message sent over a non-Protected BBM chat, creating a single point of failure. Anyone who can get their hands on that key will be able to read any messages sent over BBM.
    All BBM messages are encrypted with the same key?
    05-13-16 01:33 AM
  14. MmmHmm's Avatar
    All BBM messages are encrypted with the same key?
    Yes.
    LazyEvul likes this.
    05-13-16 04:48 PM

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