Second and third tier players want BB10?
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- I agree on the license model. We'll have to wait and see if these handsets will retain the BlackBerry quality. I'm on my last BlackBerry 10 device as far as I know. The Priv or Mercury will be my next device and the one that didn't make it in 2017 should be there for me in 2018. So as far as I can see, I will still be sporting a "real" BlackBerry for some time to come.anon(6038817) and world traveler and former ceo like this.10-07-16 04:32 PMLike 2
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Blackberry Poptart SE - Cricket Wireless10-11-16 04:50 PMLike 6 -
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- I agree on the license model. We'll have to wait and see if these handsets will retain the BlackBerry quality. I'm on my last BlackBerry 10 device as far as I know. The Priv or Mercury will be my next device and the one that didn't make it in 2017 should be there for me in 2018. So as far as I can see, I will still be sporting a "real" BlackBerry for some time to come.
With half the BlackBerry userbase located in Indonesian, it made sense for someone to licenses the brand there. The rest of the world....10-12-16 01:32 PMLike 2 -
- Hard to argue it... as there wasn't much choice left to them. They WERE NOT making money on hardware.... you can only try so much befroe you admit defeat and throw in the towel. And stop losing millions of dollars every day.
With half the BlackBerry userbase located in Indonesian, it made sense for someone to licenses the brand there. The rest of the world....10-18-16 09:39 AMLike 0 -
Or would that infringe Google's OHA rules again?10-19-16 06:04 AMLike 0 - UziRetired Moderator
posted via the last true BlackBerryDunt Dunt Dunt likes this.10-19-16 06:06 AMLike 1 -
Updating the ART probably would infringe the OHA, but that's almost a side issue. Bottom line is that BB isn't planning to spend a dime on BB10 beyond the commitment to release a security focused 10.3.3 & 10.3.4 update.
10.3.3 is overdue by about 7 months, and counting. I'll leave it to you to decide what BB'S "commitment" actually means in reality.StephanieMaks likes this.10-19-16 06:14 AMLike 1 - UziRetired ModeratorBB themselves have said they have no plans for updating the ART, and no plans for further BB10 development.
Updating the ART probably would infringe the OHA, but that's almost a side issue. Bottom line is that BB isn't planning to spend a dime on BB10 beyond the commitment to release a security focused 10.3.3 & 10.3.4 update.
10.3.3 is overdue by about 7 months, and counting. I'll leave it to you to decide what BB'S "commitment" actually means in reality.
posted via the last true BlackBerry10-19-16 06:17 AMLike 3 - Leaving aside the OHA rules - it's also about political power - In the scheme of things (in regards to mobile), BBRY is a small sub-scale player in the Android landscape. If they try to cross their master King Google they will suddenly find they have nothing to license to anyone...Dunt Dunt Dunt and JeepBB like this.10-19-16 06:26 AMLike 2
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There was no issue with OHA rules.
They still had hundreds, if not thousands of developers working on BB10.
They still had their eye on being a player as the 3rd mobile platform.
That the all powerful and mighty QNX could not do what iOS, Android and even WINDOWS could do... run on 1GB of RAM?
Seems almost like deja vu around here now, only I don't see any purpose in updating BB10 at this point. Maybe if Android and Windows was extremely expensive to license, and maybe if there were not so many other failed mobile OS that would also love to be used... I could see some investment into a 3rd mobile platform. But as it is BBOS is still more popular.....
If BlackBerry were going to license BB10 to 3rd or 4th tier players... we wouldn't be wondering where 10.3.3 was right now. BlackBerry would be showing signs of develpment and investment into BB10, LINK, BLEND and other projects that make BB10 a "platform".StephanieMaks likes this.10-19-16 07:47 AMLike 1 -
And to me only the ART is an issue.
Either they should remove it or they should upgrade it, the rest of the OS and its core apps are just great.10-19-16 07:53 AMLike 0 -
You might want to check out this thread...http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...untime-918485/10-19-16 08:26 AMLike 0 - Well if you don't use Android Apps or ported Apps... is the ART really an issue?
You might want to check out this thread...http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...untime-918485/
But if we speculate about licensing BB10, I would assume that they either should remove it or improve it.
If you want to have a certain app ecosystem for the "private space" of balance, then you should upgrade the ART.
However, if the business model requires only a locked down communication device, you can remove the ART.
(Okay, I only say that because a leaner BB10 could maybe run on my PlayBook.)10-19-16 11:45 AMLike 0 -
So, any company considering licensing BB10 would have to do so with the understanding that - at best - their prospective customers would have to be satisfied with a subset of the apps found in BB World (because only native apps would run, and many apps in BB World are actually Android apps in BB10 wrappers) - and we all know that BB World is losing apps daily, and is full of junk and/or old apps that haven't been updated in forever.10-20-16 01:18 AMLike 0 -
If that would ever happen, we maybe have a leaner BB10 version that can run on my PlayBook.10-20-16 03:16 AMLike 0 -
Just not sure what kind of experience it would be.... few apps, and I bet the BB10 browser would stay checkerboard for minutes at a time with that GPU.10-20-16 08:55 AMLike 0 - IF they were somehow to find a licensee, they would HAVE to remove the Android Runtime, as it is a violation of BB's Google Play/GMS license. That wasn't an issue previously, but with the release of the Priv, BB signed Google's license and now has to follow the rules, and that means no runtime.
So, any company considering licensing BB10 would have to do so with the understanding that - at best - their prospective customers would have to be satisfied with a subset of the apps found in BB World (because only native apps would run, and many apps in BB World are actually Android apps in BB10 wrappers) - and we all know that BB World is losing apps daily, and is full of junk and/or old apps that haven't been updated in forever.10-23-16 07:39 PMLike 0 - My guess would be countries where Google and or apple services is either not allowed or not popular. Both haven't totally taken over the world.10-23-16 08:34 PMLike 0
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