1. ADFXPro777's Avatar
    http://bit.ly/porMna

    I know ATT and Verizon have already been implementing this, but it seems the worst has yet to arrive. In my view, tier-pricing could lead consumers back to RIM, for as we well-know, Blackberries are extremely data-efficient with their data compression, significantly using far less data than other brands.

    Interesting article nevertheless - let me know what your thoughts are :-)

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    07-13-11 10:53 AM
  2. Speczorz's Avatar
    That article states that existing unlimited data customers will be forced to change their plans. I thought we were all grandfathered in, even if we renew our contracts?
    07-13-11 11:11 AM
  3. sedalia066's Avatar
    The major carriers have noted for years now how willing many consumers are to pay for data. We shall see with the new limits how much more people will pay. Just now the low end A$$ plans work in my family. We are not paying an additional penny.

    RIM should be touting this far and wide. Most carriers have a low tier data plan that is plenty for those who do not stream much audio or video. For many of us there is no need to pay additional fees for data access we will not use.
    07-13-11 11:14 AM
  4. Phil DeLong's Avatar
    RIM should be touting this far and wide. Most carriers have a low tier data plan that is plenty for those who do not stream much audio or video. For many of us there is no need to pay additional fees for data access we will not use.
    That would be very smart of them. Using my BlackBerry I can cruise far under Verizon's $15 plan just fine, I know the same wouldn't be possible with my iPhone. Wouldn't be a bad selling point at all.
    07-13-11 11:17 AM
  5. Tõnis's Avatar
    Hmmmm. No wonder the carriers have been pushing those flashy non-RIM data hogs. I'm on Sprint's Simply Everything. I use very little 3G data (something like 90mb last month), but it's the unlimited calling to any landline or mobile phone that I love.
    07-13-11 11:30 AM
  6. BBThemes's Avatar
    `unlimited` went about 2 years ago in the UK, now ya tend to get either half a gig or a gig depending on ya plan. of course we dont have faux G we only have 3G hsdpa+ at 14.4MBps however over 80% of UK masts have a rate of 7.2Mbps or lower (either 7.2 or 3.6 in less busy cities).

    Im not supprised other countries have started going this way now, especially as Vodafone UK has a 40%ish stake in VZW
    07-13-11 11:34 AM
  7. pinkert11's Avatar
    Here in Canada my wife is on a Rogers Social Plan on her BB. $15 a month and she gets unlimited email and social network / IM apps such as facebook or MS. She also pays an additional $5 per month for 500 Mb. She has never gone or gotten too close to the 500 Mb, as most of her traffic is covered under the social network. As far as I know BB is the only device that can separate / control traffic such as this by means of the service books. If she switched to iphone or android this plan would be lost and at a min her cost would double.

    You USA guys should take a look at CDN pricing plans, as Verizion and AT&T seem to be following the CDN gouging ideas.

    Last edited by pinkert11; 07-13-11 at 11:52 AM.
    07-13-11 11:43 AM
  8. rollingrock1988's Avatar
    stupid. wireless carriers will eventually get broken up, especially if this tmo att thing happens.
    07-13-11 12:09 PM
  9. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    http://bit.ly/porMna

    Blackberries are extremely data-efficient with their data compression, significantly using far less data than other brands.


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    Agreed for right now. But I would imagine that QNX will be not much more efficient that iOS or Android when it comes to data usage especially if it has the "full web" and will have more robust apps. It's not about now, it's about the future. For those that are waiting for QNX devices, it doesn't matter how efficient the current blackberry OS is. The question will be if RIM is able to achieve a substantial amount of efficiency with QNX over Android and iOS WHILE providing a comparable experience.
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    07-13-11 12:17 PM
  10. howarmat's Avatar
    with wifi also growing in availability i am finding my normal data usage is actually way down. Under 1 gb. Now if i sit there and download 3-4 roms a month on 3g/4g im much higher.
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    07-13-11 03:41 PM
  11. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    with wifi also growing in availability i am finding my normal data usage is actually way down. Under 1 gb. Now if i sit there and download 3-4 roms a month on 3g/4g im much higher.
    Same here. During the week, I am at work for 10-12 hours where I barely use the phone for web stuff. And then I go home when I'm connected to my Wifi network. I rarely go over 2GB of data usage. My wife on the other hand is one of those data hogs. She watches netflix, streams radio and youtube whenever she gets the chance, wifi or not. She easily tops 5GB.
    07-13-11 04:40 PM
  12. BoldtotheMax's Avatar
    I stream vids, music on the daily and use my 9700 on the constant and I have yet to hit 500mb a month. My wife's Android is over 1g a month and she uses it half as much as I do.

    I seldom am on wifi too....

    Love the compression! But it slows it down....whatever!

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    07-13-11 07:13 PM
  13. ADFXPro777's Avatar
    Agreed for right now. But I would imagine that QNX will be not much more efficient that iOS or Android when it comes to data usage especially if it has the "full web" and will have more robust apps. It's not about now, it's about the future. For those that are waiting for QNX devices, it doesn't matter how efficient the current blackberry OS is. The question will be if RIM is able to achieve a substantial amount of efficiency with QNX over Android and iOS WHILE providing a comparable experience.
    Maybe, but seeing RIM's history with their products and services and especially the demands of their main market (enterprise/business users), I suspect they will find some way to make their QNX phones very data efficient.

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    07-15-11 01:06 AM
  14. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    It's not the OS, bbos or qnx, that makes it data efficient, it's the NOC so yes, QNX will be just as efficient at data usage out of the box.

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    07-15-11 01:51 AM
  15. M.Rizk's Avatar
    It's not the OS, bbos or qnx, that makes it data efficient, it's the NOC so yes, QNX will be just as efficient at data usage out of the box.

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    pheew, at last someone posted it before i do lol
    for all saying it won't be data efficient
    go Bridge your BB with PB, you should be able to stream Youtube using Bridge Browser, also load Flash sites.
    take a look at your bill at the end of the month, it will only increase by a little for the flash. other than that it all depends on the NOC.
    07-15-11 03:37 AM
  16. iN8ter's Avatar
    That would be very smart of them. Using my BlackBerry I can cruise far under Verizon's $15 plan just fine, I know the same wouldn't be possible with my iPhone. Wouldn't be a bad selling point at all.
    That's nice for viewing text web pages and image compression isn't an issue on Blackberries because the screens are low res, anyways.

    However, on a WVGA/qHD screen, the image compression becomes an issue.

    Also, that does not help for streaming video and music off the internet. That $15 plan is borderline useless to the average Android/iOS user (the average one, not everyone since I'm sure some people have those phones but don't use them a lot).

    I have a 200MB data plan on my backup phone (Vibrant) and there's no way I could use it as a daily driver with that low of a data cap (before overages).
    07-15-11 04:39 AM
  17. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    Even direct mp3 downloads seem to be compressed, I just downloaded a 24mb podcast while using only 18mb of data.

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    07-16-11 09:51 AM
  18. M.Rizk's Avatar
    Even direct mp3 downloads seem to be compressed, I just downloaded a 24mb podcast while using only 18mb of data.

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    Hey how can you check for your usage, I mean how can you calculate the traffic passed, because our carrier is not able to calculate it that's why they are still offering unlimited lol

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    07-16-11 09:57 AM
  19. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    Hey how can you check for your usage, I mean how can you calculate the traffic passed, because our carrier is not able to calculate it that's why they are still offering unlimited lol

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    I use the free Telicost app in Appworld

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    07-16-11 10:09 AM
  20. M.Rizk's Avatar
    I use the free Telicost app in Appworld

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    Thanks for sharing
    Have a nice day

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    07-16-11 10:21 AM
  21. mininchico's Avatar
    RUMOR ALERT I just heard yesterday that A T & T is in the market to buy Boost. Has anyone heard anything of that resort?
    07-19-11 01:55 PM
  22. M.Rizk's Avatar
    RUMOR ALERT I just heard yesterday that A T & T is in the market to buy Boost. Has anyone heard anything of that resort?

    I am afraid USA would be limited soon to AT&T and Verizon only :S I do feel that Verizon will buy Sprint too.

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    07-19-11 01:57 PM
  23. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I stream vids, music on the daily and use my 9700 on the constant and I have yet to hit 500mb a month. My wife's Android is over 1g a month and she uses it half as much as I do.

    I seldom am on wifi too....

    Love the compression! But it slows it down....whatever!

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    Streaming audio data is not compressed. I've used over 5GB in a month several times. That was due to streaming TuneInRadio, Pandora, and Slacker. Podcasts are not compressed either. I subscribe to 5 podcasts, and those also account for a lot of data usage.

    I've only been below 2GB once in the past year, and this is without any tethering.
    07-19-11 02:01 PM
  24. M.Rizk's Avatar
    Streaming audio data is not compressed. I've used over 5GB in a month several times. That was due to streaming TuneInRadio, Pandora, and Slacker. Podcasts are not compressed either. I subscribe to 5 podcasts, and those also account for a lot of data usage.

    I've only been below 2GB once in the past year, and this is without any tethering.
    Yes yes yes, I agree to all but "Tether" the end, how do you expect having usage under 5GB monthly when tethering?!

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    07-19-11 02:07 PM
  25. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    Streaming audio data is not compressed. I've used over 5GB in a month several times. That was due to streaming TuneInRadio, Pandora, and Slacker. Podcasts are not compressed either. I subscribe to 5 podcasts, and those also account for a lot of data usage.

    I've only been below 2GB once in the past year, and this is without any tethering.
    I don't know about podcast apps but I downloaded a 24mb podcast trough the BB browser using only about 18mb according to the Telicost app that monitors my data. Some compression still happens with direct mp3 downloads.

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    07-19-11 02:38 PM
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