[bekkay]

It looks like the tech giant is having problems. This is probably mainly due to the smartphone market becoming as competitive as never before.

Samsung Posts Profit Decline Amid Battle With Apple - Bloomberg

[00stryder]

The blessing and curse of using Android. Don't know if Tizen is still in their future plans, but this is likely what they were trying to avoid (i.e. the Chinese manufacturers producing cheap phones to undercut their low-tier devices).

A shame, but Samsung is still making a lot of money. Perhaps it's an indication of a bigger issue for them, which in my opinion would be consumers realizing that a lot of their marketed features aren't readily used by Galaxy users.

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[howarmat]

its just saturation for the industry as a whole i think

[agarwal.apar]

This had to happen.. to "Shame"sung

[bekkay]

its just saturation for the industry as a whole i think

Yep, I think the era of $700 smartphones is coming to an end. At least I hope smartphones are becoming more of a staple product.

[zten]

What goes up must come down

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[DenverRalphy]

At the same time, HTC posted a positive profit quarter. Granted the profit wasn't extraordinary, but it was their first profit in a while. IMHO, this is a good thing. It means Samsung is no longer siphoning all the Android profits. It'll be interesting to see how the other Android OEMs finish their next quarters.

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[zocster]

Putting knox on to stop me from playing with a toy that I fully paid for? That's expected!

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[agarwal.apar]

..and what go's down.. comes up again! BlackBerry - Your time now!

[eldricho]

At the same time, HTC posted a positive profit quarter. Granted the profit wasn't extraordinary, but it was their first profit in a while. IMHO, this is a good thing. It means Samsung is no longer siphoning all the Android profits. It'll be interesting to see how the other Android OEMs finish their next quarters.

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HTC only had profit because they sold their stake in Beats back to Beats for $85M, bringing their profit to $10.4M
Nice thing to do imo
Chinese manufacturers like Xiaomi and ZTE are quickly rising among the Android manufacturers with their high end but still cheap to buy phones. Slowly rising to the top

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[birdman_38]

I'm starting to think BlackBerry and HTC should merge. One company that excels at hardware along with one that excels at software. Under Mr Chen's leadership they could do great things together.

It's been said before but the idea lacked merit under the previous management.

[TGR1]

From the article:

“There’s still a lot of upside ahead,” Mark C. Newman, a Hong Kong-based analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein, told Bloomberg Television. “Samsung’s the [sic] actually only company in the world that is actually making money on low-end smartphones right now.”

I am not entirely sure what he means by his first comment (room for Samsung to grow?) but the second comment is not correct, I believe. Xiomei (sp?) and Huawei, etc.are by all accounts doing well, not to mention all the various small OEMs. Likely he means companies whose earnings are known but the wording is a little sloppy.

It would be quite troubling if true, in any case.

[anon(4044683)]

Why a shame? I think Samsung phones are pretty good with latest technology though built using plastic they are durable.

The blessing and curse of using Android. Don't know if Tizen is still in their future plans, but this is likely what they were trying to avoid (i.e. the Chinese manufacturers producing cheap phones to undercut their low-tier devices).

A shame, but Samsung is still making a lot of money. Perhaps it's an indication of a bigger issue for them, which in my opinion would be consumers realizing that a lot of their marketed features aren't readily used by Galaxy users.

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[bspence87]

I'm starting to think BlackBerry and HTC should merge. One company that excels at hardware along with one that excels at software. Under Mr Chen's leadership they could do great things together.

It's been said before but the idea lacked merit under the previous management.

Please don't get my hopes up. I'm already so overwhelmed by the potential of bb10 and other BlackBerry ventures.

[sentimentGX4]

Those who think Samsung struggling is a positive for Blackberry are shortsighted. Samsung's mediocre performance indicates weakness in the industry/sector. The result is an even more competitive environment for Blackberry where it will be striving to win barebones profits from consumers. There is also greater risk of consolidation in the market and this will spell trouble for alternative smartphone products like Blackberry or Windows Phone.

[badiyee]

Those who think Samsung struggling is a positive for Blackberry are shortsighted. Samsung's mediocre performance indicates weakness in the industry/sector. The result is an even more competitive environment for Blackberry where it will be striving to win barebones profits from consumers. There is also greater risk of consolidation in the market and this will spell trouble for alternative smartphone products like Blackberry or Windows Phone.

I am more inclined to believe that their high margin high profit low end phone sectors have been eaten away by the offerings from Chinese based competitors, now that they are offering better bang for buck Android devices with around the same money you pay for a low end or mid end smartphones.

[Prem WatsApp]

Yep, I think the era of $700 smartphones is coming to an end. At least I hope smartphones are becoming more of a staple product.

Right. Just like the era of $2000 laptops came to an end quite a while ago. $500 machines have become a staple. Some manufacturers are now struggling, look at Dell. PC market got more competitive, and partly replaced with other tech, like tablets and the phones we are discussing right now.

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[RH1Pearl]

I'm sure 95% of smartphone manufacturers would want Samsung's problems

[zten]

I'm sure 95% of smartphone manufacturers would want Samsung's problems

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I doubt that

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[Cozz4ever]

It's called saturation. The only thing Samsung can do now is build bigger/better versions of the stuff they have now until something completely new comes out. A must have, the smart watch wasn't it.

[pantlesspenguin]

I'm starting to think BlackBerry and HTC should merge. One company that excels at hardware along with one that excels at software. Under Mr Chen's leadership they could do great things together.

It's been said before but the idea lacked merit under the previous management.

I would absolutely love this.

[sandman10]

Wow, instead of making 878 billion in profit, it declined to 796 billion!

Poor poor samsung! Time to bring Heins and Alicia in to right the ship. :lol:

[lnichols]

I am more inclined to believe that their high margin high profit low end phone sectors have been eaten away by the offerings from Chinese based competitors, now that they are offering better bang for buck Android devices with around the same money you pay for a low end or mid end smartphones.

Yes and these are the same phones that are killing BlackBerry in the emerging markets. This in no way is positive for BlackBerry.

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[birdman_38]

The only thing Samsung can do now is build bigger/better versions of the stuff they have now until something completely new comes out. A must have, the smart watch wasn't it.

Give it time. The iPhone wasn't a must have as soon as it was released.

[badiyee]

Wow, instead of making 878 billion in profit, it declined to 796 billion!

Poor poor samsung! Time to bring Heins and Alicia in to right the ship. :lol:

Pray tell, what was the handset / mobile division's contribution to the profits for the 2 years again?