samsung as a partner vs. BBM for iOS/Android
- According to P.Misek, an analyst with Jefferies & Co:
RIM fully intends to double down on BlackBerry 10. �Our checks indicate RIM is likely to move away from a proposal to the Board that RIM license BB10 to Samsung and launch a new BBM, email, and social networking app for iOS/Android for a monthly fee,� Misek wrote in a Febuary research note. The new plan, he added, will center on RIM competing against �Apple, Android and Windows ecosystems with their own integrated hardware/software/services ecosystem.�
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At this point, I wonder why RIM would not seek both options. A partner in making some new hardware would really help spread BBX devices - maybe Samsung sticks to the full screen devices, as the do them well.VanCity778 likes this.03-04-12 10:48 AMLike 1 - I see a disturbing trend with RIM... Everything they do to try to gain market share either has to do with giving products away or piggybacking off of Android. They need to come up with something within RIM that makes people want to use THEIR product.
Sent from my GALAXY NEXUS using TapatalkVanCity778 likes this.03-04-12 10:54 AMLike 1 - I see a disturbing trend with RIM... Everything they do to try to gain market share either has to do with giving products away or piggybacking off of Android. They need to come up with something within RIM that makes people want to use THEIR product.
Sent from my GALAXY NEXUS using Tapatalk03-04-12 11:09 AMLike 0 - I see a disturbing trend with RIM... Everything they do to try to gain market share either has to do with giving products away or piggybacking off of Android. They need to come up with something within RIM that makes people want to use THEIR product.
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Personally I like BBM but would love to use it even if my friend has an iphone. As mentioned around these forums BBM with access to Skype's network would be huge and IMO a gamechanger that people talk about. Also I believe the all the major OS's should be moving in this direction.03-04-12 11:11 AMLike 0 - I see a disturbing trend with RIM... Everything they do to try to gain market share either has to do with giving products away or piggybacking off of Android. They need to come up with something within RIM that makes people want to use THEIR product.
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As for piggybacking off Andoid.... Funny I thought Playbook ran on QNX not Andoid OS.... Contray to media I think there is more than enough Apps on the curent platform... Sure some of the "wants" Netflix Slype on the current not avialable....If what is not available defines your user experience then buy an Apple or an Andorid...... I get tired of 100,000 of apps... really.... glad people have time to sift through that many..... I for one at most would need maybo 100 on my 64 gig Playbook....
RIM has purposely not differentiated between native an Android apps...If the tablet rums the software.. who cares if it is native or Android...... A smart maketing move RIM;s part... Where I agree and your post makes the point.....is does not matter what RIM does... it is not right or good enough.... They are critisized for not dealing well with app developers so they decide to change things and sweeten the pot... that now is somthing wrong.. I guess in you world RIM can do no right.....
IN the final analysis ... If BB10 is as good as they claim... why license it... you are just ginvng away market share....Last edited by dbmalloy; 03-04-12 at 11:32 AM.
03-04-12 11:28 AMLike 0 - But we're already paying extra for BIS. Which allows us to use BBM without putting a dent in our monthly data allocation. If that could be extended to other platforms, they'd gain the same benefit and RIM would gain additional finances. Not everyone has an unlimited data plan. In some parts of the world, that's still measured in megabytes instead of gigabytes. And others would be very happy to go to a less expensive data plan by having something like BBM/BIS. Which would also allow others to cut or eliminate their need for sms plans.03-04-12 12:51 PMLike 0
- kbz1960Doesn't MatterBut we're already paying extra for BIS. Which allows us to use BBM without putting a dent in our monthly data allocation. If that could be extended to other platforms, they'd gain the same benefit and RIM would gain additional finances. Not everyone has an unlimited data plan. In some parts of the world, that's still measured in megabytes instead of gigabytes. And others would be very happy to go to a less expensive data plan by having something like BBM/BIS. Which would also allow others to cut or eliminate their need for sms plans.03-04-12 01:04 PMLike 0
- Rim is fine the way they are, they aren't going to get bought and sold out, BBM is not going to another platform, RIM did say they have no intensions to partner with samsung yet either. These analists need to just forget it. We know what is happening, just one person's view isn't going to change RIM. Thorstin even knows. Sorry if I misspelled a few words.
Let RIM be.03-04-12 02:21 PMLike 0 - Rim is fine the way they are, they aren't going to get bought and sold out, BBM is not going to another platform, RIM did say they have no intensions to partner with samsung yet either. These analists need to just forget it. We know what is happening, just one person's view isn't going to change RIM. Thorstin even knows. Sorry if I misspelled a few words.
Let RIM be.
Since everyone does not want BBM on another platform how about rim do the opposite make BBM more like whatsapp or im+ make msn, yahoo messenger, etc have all the IM apps go though bbm.03-04-12 02:27 PMLike 0 - Think of the API's they'd have to integrate. AOL has their own app now, pretty soon windows live MSN messenger will and then yahoo. All depends if they actually do so. But I see your point. BBM should keep it's exclusiveness to blackberry only.03-04-12 02:31 PMLike 0
- Nice thread.
I guess it all depends what Google plans on doing, If they go forward with Android on Motorola phones only, i guess Samsung will have to find another partner. A Samsung/RIM partnership could be a home run for bother parties. Who knows what the future holds at this point.03-04-12 02:32 PMLike 0 - I am pleased to hear this!
The only way RIM is going to be win is to let RIM be RIM without another company. And who would pay for BBM on another platform of when whatsapp is free?03-04-12 02:35 PMLike 0 -
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By the way I'm bored on a sunday so I might just be throwing out ideas.03-04-12 02:43 PMLike 0 -
The goal is to provide each user the selection that fits them, and the larger the selection, the better chance of meeting a user's needs.Last edited by Economist101; 03-05-12 at 09:21 AM. Reason: Typo
03-05-12 08:04 AMLike 0 -
For the developer, the more apps like his, the smaller his piece of the pie. Which makes very large app markets a lose-lose instead of a win-win.
The only good part of huge app markets is that they're based on the fact that there's a large user base. So, the likelihood that niche market apps become more profitable for the developer gets those in the market, too. And the user can benefit from the specialized programming.fanatical likes this.03-05-12 09:14 AMLike 1 - Variety is beneficial, but I wonder if the size of the Android and iOS app markets hasn't gotten to the point of being counterproductive. Both for the developer and user. If a user has, for example, 50 or 100 PIM apps to choose from, it takes a lot more time to figure out which is good and which isn't and which might have the desired feature set. So, more wasted time figuring out how to get the app to save them time doing what the app does.
For the developer, the more apps like his, the smaller his piece of the pie. Which makes very large app markets a lose-lose instead of a win-win.
The only good part of huge app markets is that they're based on the fact that there's a large user base. So, the likelihood that niche market apps become more profitable for the developer gets those in the market, too. And the user can benefit from the specialized programming.03-05-12 09:28 AMLike 0 - But would you be willing to pay $5-8 more a month to get it? I think BBM is nice, but for many people they just text and they already have unlimited texts per month so paying more for something they don't think they need or want isn't a winning game plan and that is what RIMM seems to be planning to do???03-05-12 10:35 AMLike 0
- But would you be willing to pay $5-8 more a month to get it? I think BBM is nice, but for many people they just text and they already have unlimited texts per month so paying more for something they don't think they need or want isn't a winning game plan and that is what RIMM seems to be planning to do???03-05-12 10:42 AMLike 0
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