1. garlee's Avatar
    Here is a interesting article about companies using googles android system o/s and what the future means to it...????
    Samsung the smartphone software pupil ready to defeat its Android master? - The Globe and Mail

    This is why rim may be in in a very desirable position software wise for the future
    05-03-12 10:41 AM
  2. DenverRalphy's Avatar
    I find this quote from the article a bit amusing...

    So its a puzzle to me now, years and years on, he said, to see companies like Samsung continuing to operate within the operating system and ecosystem that other vendors control.

    Is it really difficult to take note of the tons of money Samsung is making from it? What other reason do they need?
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    05-03-12 10:58 AM
  3. hootyhoo's Avatar
    I find this quote from the article a bit amusing...

    So its a puzzle to me now, years and years on, he said, to see companies like Samsung continuing to operate within the operating system and ecosystem that other vendors control.

    Is it really difficult to take note of the tons of money Samsung is making from it? What other reason do they need?
    I agree. Why would Samsung take the risk of creating an os and complete ecosystem on their own as long as they are raking in cash and an ever increasing market share using android?
    05-03-12 11:02 AM
  4. dcgore's Avatar
    ^^^I agree with you. Samsung only spends money in skinning Android with Touchwiz. That's why you see even your grandma making a phone with android on it. It's free.
    05-03-12 11:45 AM
  5. JNM's Avatar
    Samsung undoubtedly needs to develop a software strategy that does not include Android. This does not mean the company should move away from Android but it does mean that they should be ready and able to do so if it were to become necessary for them.

    Windows Phone is something that everyone other than Nokia has been very tentative about but it is impressively efficient, good-looking, easy to use mobile OS that is every bit as capable and Android and iOS.

    The Playbook gives an example what RIM can do with their next OS and it looks to be damned good. RIM also is likely to be more likely to allow for anyone who licenses the OS to heavily modify it to their likely, maybe even requiring it to some extent, to guarantee differentiation. Hopefully they would be more prudent in providing for limitations and guidance on those modifications so as to allow likely updates to be handled smoothly.
    05-03-12 12:18 PM
  6. hootyhoo's Avatar
    It isn't so much about the os anymore. Like it or not, it's about the apps and the ecosystem ( support services). Even if Samsung released the greatest os ever, they need the apps and support to hp with it.

    This is the problem that rim is having right now. BB10 may be the cats meow, but without the stuff that people expect (read a plethora of apps), rim will continue to lose market share.
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    05-03-12 02:12 PM
  7. Mystic205's Avatar
    Take a look at the numbers within the numbers.. for every android phone samsung sells, they sell two others.
    Samsung is a business and a phone manufacturer, not a religious zealot...so they dont care which o.s. is used as long as they can produce good phones that sell and make a profit. They frankly dont care less about o.s... its $$$ they care about.
    I would expect they have plans to bring a WP7 phone to market , and clearly were talking to RIM about BB10.. (my preference partner for device proliferation)...
    05-03-12 04:19 PM
  8. lnichols's Avatar
    ^^^I agree with you. Samsung only spends money in skinning Android with Touchwiz. That's why you see even your grandma making a phone with android on it. It's free.
    It's not free! Microsoft makes a lot of money off Android OEM's paying them to use Android.
    05-03-12 06:59 PM
  9. drummer_god's Avatar
    samsung may be in a sweet spot today, but they are very vulnerable, as they do not have any control over the OS they depend on.
    android could become exclusive to motorola and samsung would be screwed. or google could decide to start to charge astronomical fees to use android and samsung would be at their mercy.

    all their eggs in in 1 basket - a basket they don't own and have zero control over.
    Last edited by drummer_god; 05-03-12 at 07:21 PM.
    05-03-12 07:18 PM
  10. psufan32's Avatar
    samsung may be in a sweet spot today, but they are very vulnerable, as they do not have any control over the OS they depend on.
    android could become exclusive to motorola and samsung would be screwed. or google could decide to start to charge astronomical fees to use android and samsung would be at their mercy.

    all their eggs in in 1 basket - a basket they don't own and have zero control over.
    You do realize that Samsung is more than just a maker of Android handsets and tablets, right?
    05-03-12 07:35 PM
  11. drummer_god's Avatar
    yes. but 95% of it's cell phone sales come from android-run devices.
    lose that, and they are essentially out of the cell phone game.
    05-03-12 07:47 PM
  12. Mystic205's Avatar
    umm nope.. or source..take your pick

    yes. but 95% of it's cell phone sales come from android-run devices.
    lose that, and they are essentially out of the cell phone game.
    05-03-12 10:17 PM
  13. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    It's not free! Microsoft makes a lot of money off Android OEM's paying them to use Android.
    "Free" enough that Samsung is happy to pay MS and laugh all the to the bank.They have bada. They wouldn't have to pay royalties. But Sammy knows what makes it money, and it is Android.
    05-03-12 10:23 PM
  14. darkmanx2g's Avatar
    samsung may be in a sweet spot today, but they are very vulnerable, as they do not have any control over the OS they depend on.
    android could become exclusive to motorola and samsung would be screwed. or google could decide to start to charge astronomical fees to use android and samsung would be at their mercy.

    all their eggs in in 1 basket - a basket they don't own and have zero control over.
    Google cannot charge money for their OS as it was built from open source software. Theyre already in deep water from the Oracle case. Google's business model is very unique. All they care about is search. Their making tons of money from their competitor Apple by IOS users using Google services.
    05-04-12 12:13 AM
  15. DenverRalphy's Avatar
    Google cannot charge money for their OS as it was built from open source software. Theyre already in deep water from the Oracle case. Google's business model is very unique. All they care about is search. Their making tons of money from their competitor Apple by IOS users using Google services.
    Open source does not mean free of charge. All it requires is that Google provide the source code to anybody who legally obtains the software. In this case, Google just happens to have chosen to give it out for free. They could legally change the license or their distribution model if they so choose, but they'd be crazy to do that since it would kill their whole business model.

    As for being in deep water with Oracle... not so much anymore. Google looks to be coming out on top in that battle now.
    05-04-12 12:34 AM
  16. DenverRalphy's Avatar
    samsung may be in a sweet spot today, but they are very vulnerable, as they do not have any control over the OS they depend on.
    android could become exclusive to motorola and samsung would be screwed. or google could decide to start to charge astronomical fees to use android and samsung would be at their mercy.

    all their eggs in in 1 basket - a basket they don't own and have zero control over.
    Samsung has complete control over the OS. They can do with it whatever they wish due to the nature of the open source license it's built on. Look at Amazon, they did that rather successfully.

    As for becoming exclusive to Motorola, and charging large fees... That'll never happen. Android is as successful as it is today largely because of their current license and distribution model. There's no chance Google would ever change that as it would be anathema to their business model, and they know it.
    05-04-12 12:41 AM
  17. sinsin07's Avatar
    Here is a interesting article about companies using googles android system o/s and what the future means to it...????
    Samsung the smartphone software pupil ready to defeat its Android master? - The Globe and Mail

    This is why rim may be in in a very desirable position software wise for the future
    How does the article correlate into a RIM desirable position in software?

    ^^^I agree with you. Samsung only spends money in skinning Android with Touchwiz. That's why you see even your grandma making a phone with android on it. It's free.
    Samsung is doing more than just skinning Android:
    Samsung opens AllShare and outs DLNA dongle
    Samsung Galaxy S III - the software features

    The Group Cast feature described in each article sounds an awful lot like what was demoed at WMC 2012:
    [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=sfqy16VBe04[/YT]
    05-04-12 02:57 AM
  18. psufan32's Avatar
    yes. but 95% of it's cell phone sales come from android-run devices.
    lose that, and they are essentially out of the cell phone game.
    1) You said that Samsung would be in trouble... Samsung has their hands in far more than mobile phones.

    2) The entire premise of Android was to expand Google's advertising prowess. THAT is why Android is free. If they take that away they kill Android and what is quickly becoming the present and what will be the future of search and advertising.

    3) I find hilarious the hypocrisy on this site. Calls for Samsung to manufacture BB handsets, yet blind bashing of the GSIII (a handset made by Samsung).
    05-04-12 05:36 AM
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